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Old 27-05-2025, 07:51 PM #176
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It's about time his name was released.

I know he hasn't been charged yet, and people are entitled to some form of privacy, but surely they have swab tested him, and with their comments about suspicion of drug driving, one must assume it's came back positive. So why not charge him with that to begin with so they can then legally give out his name?
They can't charge him from a swab test. It has to be a blood test.
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They can't charge him from a swab test. It has to be a blood test.
I will assume they've done that by now, and ask the same question.
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I will assume they've done that by now, and ask the same question.
It can take weeks to get the blood test results back.

In drug driving cases, police usually have six months to prosecute. However, much of this time is often spent waiting for your blood test results, which can take eight weeks or more.
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It can take weeks to get the blood test results back.

In drug driving cases, police usually have six months to prosecute. However, much of this time is often spent waiting for your blood test results, which can take eight weeks or more.
Maybe I'm jump8ng the gun here, but I reckon his test would be at the front of the queue.
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Fyi, and mine.

Someone jumped onto the tracks at lime street, which caused the delays.
apparently it was the same on the Metro whatever that is
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There are multiple areas of blame here but yes the fact that the angry mob of footie yobs started bashing the car to try to get to the driver 100% caused a panic and further chaos. Let's call a spade a spade. The angry men kicked off and made things worse; that's the world.
You're blaming the fans for a driver being on a road that he legally shouldn't have been on at that moment?

Because I would be angry if a Car was inches away from me as well, when it's supposed to be a parade.
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But the crowd attacked his car for for entering the road...That's when he had to speed off in a panic, and that's when the injuries took place.
But he shouldn't have been on the road.

So are we all going to agree to stop victim blaming now?
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But he shouldn't have been on the road.

So are we all going to agree to stop victim blaming now?
The yobs punching the windows and kicking the doors aren't the victims though. That was other innocent bystanders who got caught up in the chaos. There are multiple layers of blame, obviously the driver takes the biggest share of that, and poor safety organisation is another element, but no... attacking/punching/kicking a vehicle "because you're a bit angry" is not an acceptable or appropriate response and very probably was part of the escalating situation.
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The yobs punching the windows and kicking the doors aren't the victims though. That was other innocent bystanders who got caught up in the chaos. There are multiple layers of blame, obviously the driver takes the biggest share of that, and poor safety organisation is another element, but no... attacking/punching/kicking a vehicle "because you're a bit angry" is not an acceptable or appropriate response and very probably was part of the escalating situation.
Panic will set in if a Car is driving into the proximity of a huge crowd.

In my view he shouldn't have been there, he should've known that it was never going to end well as it's Human nature to respond negatively to a perceived threat.

Logically speaking I agree with you that it wasn't in the fans best interest to respond the way that they did, because it caused him to go even more crazy.

But most people won't think logically when a car is trying to drive through a huge crowd to begin with.
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No the Junkie
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High on Cocaine
Junkie enjoying running people down,


The can now charge him
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…a personal account of the incident and the helpless terror that was felt ….


A Liverpool fan run down during the club’s victory parade has recalled how he “locked eyes” with the driver and “pleaded for him to stop” moments before being hit.

Jack Trotter, 22, had travelled from Northern Ireland with his girlfriend, Abbie Gallagher, 22, to celebrate on Water Street when he was struck by a Ford Galaxy

“Abbie was a few feet ahead of me, and I was just taking videos singing with Liverpool fans I’d never even met before,” Mr Trotter said. “Then I just heard her screaming my name, I put my phone down and by then I was face to face with the car.


“He had slowed down. And then I put my hands up and pleaded for him to stop, and he wasn’t stopping. Then he clipped me.”
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….and another personal perspective of a family there in regards to some of the crowd/supporters banging in the car…is what the vids aren't showing so much in that many were pushing people in the crowd out of the way from being harmed also…

'Heroic' young Liverpool supporters pushed family out of way of car

The Independent’s Alex Ross reports from the scene in Liverpool:

A family of four visiting from Ireland say they are thankful for “heroic” Liverpool fans who pushed them out of the way of the income vehicle.

Paul O'Brien was with his 11-year-old son Danny, and parents Marie and Peter, when they heard a commotion further down Water Road.

They saw people jumping on the top of a car as it passed a stationary ambulance on the street, heading toward them.

"They [the people jumping on the car] got the car stopped and then it got away again and we were pushed to the side as it came past us," said Paul, aged 39.

"It passed us by inches, and then it continued and we could actually hear the thuds of people being hit. It was just a terrible scene. There wee kids, men and women on the ground."

"The men who pushed us out of the way were amazing, it was heroic stuff, young Liverpool supporters. They didn't think for a second, only for those people they don't know."

After the incident, the family went inside an Airbnb on Water Street, where they stayed for the evening.

"We intended to go out for a few drinks, but we were so upset we came back and just stayed in for the night. Danny was shaking. It is hard for the fella to see it going on, it was very hard to understand."
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Good

Soon we get the Evil Junkie Car Driver Charged,

In the next hour or so.
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So was his intention to drive at people deliberately or he ended up doing so because of the situation he found himself in? What the hell were the stewards doing when they let him tailgate the ambulance
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So was his intention to drive at people deliberately or he ended up doing so because of the situation he found himself in? What the hell were the stewards doing when they let him tailgate the ambulance
Was it a Steward or a Copper?
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They mentioned stewards ...
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They mentioned stewards ...
The people stewarding at these sort of things often have next to no experience, handed a high-vis jacket and plonked on the street, they have no idea what to do in this sort of situation and are honestly mostly "walking traffic cones" - they're there for panopticon effect / visibility more than anything else, there's no one there who can exercise any real authority.
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