[Kate!]

They get put up in hotels virtually straight off the bat, given all the benefits available and are allowed to work without taxation, given bikes to take jobs as delivery drivers. Etc.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

They clearly do.

The evidence I’ve provided say otherwise.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The evidence I’ve provided say otherwise.

Garbage.

[Kate!]

I see no evidence that they only get 7 pounds a day etc.

[BBXX]

The only reason this should be regulated is for the benefit of those being employed. There should be a system in place where migrants get to work for a fair wage but as a result have to forgo a level of benefit they receive (I am sure those on a certain wage have to pay for their living accommodation costs). People - mainly migrants desperate to work - are being exploited.

It seems like the outrage in this thread lies with the migrants who are working and not the companies who are exploiting them, which feels bizarre to me. If migrants were so well off under the benefits received by the country, they wouldn't need to work.

I think this country have such an odd relationship with the benefits system, it's always seen as unfair but only ever when it's for those they deem lesser. Parents get multiple benefits that people without kids don't, married people get tax credits, single people get a discount off council tax, people who use fewer public funded services pay the same tax level as those who use a lot - it's all part of living in a society, and it's never going to ever be truly equal. I would rather migrants get a job and contribute to said society in some capacity while their application is being decided than not.

You can't complain migrants are simultaneously sponging off the state while also complaining about them working.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by BBXX

The only reason this should be regulated is for the benefit of those being employed. There should be a system in place where migrants get to work for a fair wage but as a result have to forgo a level of benefit they receive (I am sure those on a certain wage have to pay for their living accommodation costs). People - mainly migrants desperate to work - are being exploited.

It seems like the outrage in this thread lies with the migrants who are working and not the companies who are exploiting them, which feels bizarre to me. If migrants were so well off under the benefits received by the country, they wouldn't need to work.

I think this country have such an odd relationship with the benefits system, it's always seen as unfair but only ever when it's for those they deem lesser. Parents get multiple benefits that people without kids don't, married people get tax credits, single people get a discount off council tax, people who use fewer public funded services pay the same tax level as those who use a lot - it's all part of living in a society, and it's never going to ever be truly equal. I would rather migrants get a job and contribute to said society in some capacity while their application is being decided than not.

You can't complain migrants are simultaneously sponging off the state while also complaining about them working.

Yes you can? They ARE doing both.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by BBXX

The only reason this should be regulated is for the benefit of those being employed. There should be a system in place where migrants get to work for a fair wage but as a result have to forgo a level of benefit they receive (I am sure those on a certain wage have to pay for their living accommodation costs). People - mainly migrants desperate to work - are being exploited.

It seems like the outrage in this thread lies with the migrants who are working and not the companies who are exploiting them, which feels bizarre to me. If migrants were so well off under the benefits received by the country, they wouldn't need to work.

I think this country have such an odd relationship with the benefits system, it's always seen as unfair but only ever when it's for those they deem lesser. Parents get multiple benefits that people without kids don't, married people get tax credits, single people get a discount off council tax, people who use fewer public funded services pay the same tax level as those who use a lot - it's all part of living in a society, and it's never going to ever be truly equal. I would rather migrants get a job and contribute to said society in some capacity while their application is being decided than not.

You can't complain migrants are simultaneously sponging off the state while also complaining about them working.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It’s honestly hilarious how you assume anyone who doesn’t share your views must be some BBC puppet. No, I don’t get my information from government press releases—I look at independent reports from charities, legal groups, the UNHCR, and yes, reputable journalism that actually checks facts instead of cobbling together shaky phone videos to fit a narrative.

If your entire understanding of a national issue comes from a handful of self-styled “citizen journalists” filming hotel car parks, maybe consider that you’re not getting the whole picture—just the bits that confirm what you already want to believe.

You are getting the wool pulled over your eyes.the government relies on lackeys like yourself to push their narrative..

I've seen to many videos from to many people to know you are getting duped...


Poor migrants...They come here cause everything is paid for and they can then use their own money stored in foreign bank accounts to procure other things that only the poor of GB can dream off. Remember I said interviewing the residence as well....cause rha5a where I found this info from....direct from an illlegal imigrants mouth, as he sat puffing on a joint, paid for from his own bank account...nice sneakers as well.

That's what's so gallling to most people, the fact they have enough money stored away that they could be paying their own way once here like any UK citizen wurh an ounce of pride about themselves does. Not good enough for them though, just a bunch of freeloaders half of whom don't even come from war torn countries.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Beso

You are getting the wool pulled over your eyes.the government relies on lackeys like yourself to push their narrative..

I've seen to many videos from to many people to know you are getting duped...


Poor migrants...They come here cause everything is paid for and they can then use their own money stored in foreign bank accounts to procure other things that only the poor of GB can dream off. Remember I said interviewing the residence as well....cause rha5a where I found this info from....direct from an illlegal imigrants mouth, as he sat puffing on a joint, paid for from his own bank account...nice sneakers as well.

That's what's so gallling to most people, the fact they have enough money stored away that they could be paying their own way once here like any UK citizen wurh an ounce of pride about themselves does. Not good enough for them though, just a bunch of freeloaders half of whom don't even come from war torn countries.

Applause!

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Beso

You are getting the wool pulled over your eyes.the government relies on lackeys like yourself to push their narrative..

I've seen to many videos from to many people to know you are getting duped...


Poor migrants...They come here cause everything is paid for and they can then use their own money stored in foreign bank accounts to procure other things that only the poor of GB can dream off. Remember I said interviewing the residence as well....cause rha5a where I found this info from....direct from an illlegal imigrants mouth, as he sat puffing on a joint, paid for from his own bank account...nice sneakers as well.

That's what's so gallling to most people, the fact they have enough money stored away that they could be paying their own way once here like any UK citizen wurh an ounce of pride about themselves does. Not good enough for them though, just a bunch of freeloaders half of whom don't even come from war torn countries.

You realise you’ve just described cherry-picking a couple of videos to justify tarring an entire group of people? If you genuinely think every asylum seeker is sitting on fat bank accounts while pretending to be destitute, you’ve been spoon-fed exactly the narrative you accuse everyone else of falling for.

Yes, some people abuse any system—just like some UK citizens do. That doesn’t magically erase the fact that the vast majority are living in poverty-level conditions with no right to work. If you can’t tell the difference between one guy in nice trainers and the reality for thousands stuck in limbo, you’re not making some big revelation—you’re just confirming how shallow your sources are.

[Kate!]

They wouldn't come here if that were the case. And they know what the craic is because they got told by those already here.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Yes you can? They ARE doing both.

So if the Government said that you don't need to work, they'll put you in a free hotel room in a location of their choosing, where you will be fed and you'll get £9.85 a week, would you go for it or would you think that £512 a year - even if you don't need to pay tax, or rent, or bills - sounds ****ing miserable.

People still receive benefits while working to help get by - using parents as the example once again, they receive significant benefits in the form of free childcare hours, people take this without thinking and without ever considering themselves sponging off the state. Why?

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I don't sit on my arse smoking spliffs I run a home despite my conditions. And as I said earlier I did work full time for the majority of my life.

If that's your issue (a hypothetical, made-up one that you're applying to a whole group of people, which is strange) why do you have an issue with those who are working, like this topic is about?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You realise you’ve just described cherry-picking a couple of videos to justify tarring an entire group of people? If you genuinely think every asylum seeker is sitting on fat bank accounts while pretending to be destitute, you’ve been spoon-fed exactly the narrative you accuse everyone else of falling for.

Yes, some people abuse any system—just like some UK citizens do. That doesn’t magically erase the fact that the vast majority are living in poverty-level conditions with no right to work. If you can’t tell the difference between one guy in nice trainers and the reality for thousands stuck in limbo, you’re not making some big revelation—you’re just confirming how shallow your sources are.

I have 5 years of videos showing stuff like I just described. Im not going to lisy each and every one of them, am I!

Of course not all of them have the luxury of money in the bank, but then again not all of them are fleeing war, many will be criminals fleeing prosecution. I don't by this "men if fighting age" bolllocks either, cause im wise enough to know that many of them will be gay lads fleeing persecution.. but for you to dismiss peoples issues on these matters as spoon fed narratives etc doesn't show their shallowness on the matter it in fact shows your own.

[AnnieK]

closed for cleaning.
Please stop personally insulting each other if it is re-opened