[Kate!]

Labour has banned people via Sefton Local Council, which is a Labour one, from laying floral tributes almost a year on from the Southport massacre.

DISGRACEFUL

Youtube video

Edit. Story is misleading, I believed it, my bad. Thread title has been changed.

[Livia]

How will they stop people? Police in riot gear?

[Cherie]

Who is this guy, he keeps refering to the murderer as a Muslim immigrant when he in fact was born in the UK, immigrant family yes but a British Citizen and as far as I am aware he was not a Muslim, if you are going to have a rant at least get the facts straight or it makes you look uninformed and silly.


As for the public not being allowed to lay flowers I have no idea why anyone thought this was a good idea?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

How will they stop people? Police in riot gear?

Well exactly, can't see people taking any notice of this nonsense

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Well exactly, can't see people taking any notice of this nonsense

If I lived in Southport I'd make a point of laying some flowers.

[BBXX]

Isn't this at the request of the families of the victims, and those who survived?

They have said they are setting up spaces around the city where people can pay their respects, they are asking people to instead of buying flowers to donate to specific charities, they're having a 3 minute silence to mark the day and they're flying flags at half mast.

I don't see the issue personally.

[Liam-]

So you’re telling me that people are making things up again to use the poor victims as an excuse to stir up hatred? Shocker

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Isn't this at the request of the families of the victims, and those who survived?

They have said they are setting up spaces around the city where people can pay their respects, they are asking people to instead of buying flowers to donate to specific charities, they're having a 3 minute silence to mark the day and they're flying flags at half mast.

I don't see the issue personally.

…I think that the Liverpool mark of flying public building flags at half mast is touching gesture also and a great mark of respect…?….but yeah, I believe that the request was made to express the wishes of the families..as they’ve asked for flowers to not be left but there will be 3 minute silence observed in Southport on the anniversary…and I think the decision by the families to ask for donations for local Southport causes/as prose to floral tributes is very lovely, also…an horrendously difficult time for those families and all of Southport, also…

The families of the Southport victims and survivors have asked for people not to leave flowers at the scene to mark the first anniversary of the attack.
An open letter from Sefton Council said no large-scale public gatherings or vigils were planned and instead local spaces were being identified for people to go and pay their respects.
The council said there would be a three-minute silence from 15:00 BST on 29 July and asked "everyone to join with us wherever you may be".
Alice Aguiar, aged nine, Elsie Dot Stancombe, aged seven, and Bebe King, aged six, were murdered at a dance workshop on Hart Street by Axel Rudakubana, then aged 17.
Eight other children and two adults were seriously injured in the knife attack before Rudakubana, from Banks in Lancashire, was arrested.
He was jailed for life with a minimum term of 52 years in January after admitting three counts of murder, 10 of attempted murder, producing the biological toxin ricin and a terrorism offence.
Sefton Council said a "significant" amount of planning and consultation had gone into how the first anniversary of the attack would be marked.

Addressing the public, the council said: "Your compassion has been a source of comfort to all affected through their darkest days.
"The shared grief, countless acts of kindness and especially the commitment to honouring the memory of Alice, Bebe, and Elsie have meant more than words can express.
"This period is incredibly hard for the families of Alice, Bebe and Elsie and all of those children and adults injured or who suffered lifelong psychological impact of witnessing the attack, and we acknowledge the huge impact on their lives too."
It added: "We must not forget the local people who rushed to support and to our emergency responders. They all remain always in our thoughts."
The council urged that "in respect of this deeply personal time" no floral tributes be laid in Hart Street or at any school settings linked to any of the children involved.
Instead, it said, it encouraged people to donate to local causes including The Southport Stronger Together Appeal, Elsie's Story, Bebe's Hive, Hope's Help, Alice's Wonderance, The Southport Hesketh Round Table and North West Air Ambulance.
The open letter said faith and community leaders had been consulted on providing spaces within neighbourhoods for local people to mark the date in their own way.
Flags on public buildings both in Southport and the entire Liverpool City Region will be lowered to half-mast, it added.

…full article…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c39zpy7exgvo

[Livia]

Again, how are they going to stop people?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Livia

Again, how are they going to stop people?

Yeah it's wrong, people still want to express their emotions and regrets.

[Cherie]

If the families have requested it then it should be respected, though unfortunately that does not always happen

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Liam-

So you’re telling me that people are making things up again to use the poor victims as an excuse to stir up hatred? Shocker

Labour don't need anyone stirring up hatred and it's more disgusting than anything. They are doing a great job of alienating everyone all by themselves. Lowlifes.

[Kate!]

In an open letter published at midday on Tuesday, Sefton Council said the solidarity showed by the community would “shine bright” in the coming weeks and an “incredible amount of consideration, thought and planning” had been given to how the day would be marked.

The letter said: “In respect of this deeply personal time, we ask that no floral tributes be laid at either Hart Street or at school settings.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Labour don't need anyone stirring up hatred and it's more disgusting than anything. They are doing a great job of alienating everyone all by themselves. Lowlifes.

You've just been told that what you’re complaining about isn’t true, you’re lying about things because you want to whip up hysteria

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You've just been told that what you’re complaining about isn’t true, you’re lying about things because you want to whip up hysteria

I wasn't lying about anything. Calm your horses. I was reporting a news story I heard. I see it is not factual.

I'll change the thread title, no problem whatsoever. I have no beef.

Although I was completely correct to say Labour are alienating everybody and in lots of different ways.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You've just been told that what you’re complaining about isn’t true, you’re lying about things because you want to whip up hysteria

No one's lying.

[Liam-]

And this is the problem with modern politics, people see snippets of things in headlines or on Facebook and decide to make it their entire personality even though they’re blatantly wrong and just spreading nonsense that is designed to keep people angry at all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And this is the problem with modern politics, people see snippets of things in headlines or on Facebook and decide to make it their entire personality even though they’re blatantly wrong and just spreading nonsense that is designed to keep people angry at all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons

Pipe down. Thread title amended. God's sake.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And this is the problem with modern politics, people see snippets of things in headlines or on Facebook and decide to make it their entire personality even though they’re blatantly wrong and just spreading nonsense that is designed to keep people angry at all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons

I now rarely post politically on here now as I no longer see any real reason or point to.
This wasn't a factual thread at it's outset, so at least it's been altered but not the opening post.
It's NOTHING to do with Labour, not that I'm a strong defender of Labour currently.

However I just wanted to express my agreement with your post above.

[Beso]

One of my favourite clips was starmer laying his wreath. He was fuming.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And this is the problem with modern politics, people see snippets of things in headlines or on Facebook and decide to make it their entire personality even though they’re blatantly wrong and just spreading nonsense that is designed to keep people angry at all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I now rarely post politically on here now as I no longer see any real reason or point to.
This wasn't a factual thread at it's outset, so at least it's been altered but not the opening post.
It's NOTHING to do with Labour, not that I'm a strong defender of Labour currently.

However I just wanted to express my agreement with your post above.

The opening post has actually been edited.

[Glenn.]

You added a sentence at the end

Get rid of the lot.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You added a sentence at the end

Get rid of the lot.

No.

[Glenn.]

Maybe a mod can just delete the whole mess then. We have a lot of rage bait posted on here as it is.