[Maru]

Court Hearing:

Youtube video

His defense lawyer seems very interested in gathering as many witnesses as possible, which is telling...

"Massive amounts of digital coming", all of which needs to come through Discovery and reach both sides, so they're asking for lots of time to go through that... wow...

October 30th is next hearing date.

Robinson "allowed" to appear in person. (Not sure what the alternative was)

[emseateng2014]

the right wing media are probley celebrating about her getting fired

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Financial aid advisor at @iowaStateU

“This jackass got what was coming and I’m happy he’s rotting in hell”

FIRED

[emseateng2014]

i think this was one of big headline news reports in the right wing media during there 24 7 charlie kirk coverage

all because of a customer at star bucks who was i think a right winger ordering a charlie kirk drink and a most likely left winger star bucks worker wrote on the customer cup saying it was a racist drink

Originally Posted by Maru

I'm surprised this was real:

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by emseateng2014

i think this was one of big headline news reports in the right wing media during there 24 7 charlie kirk coverage

all because of a customer at star bucks who was i think a right winger ordering a charlie kirk drink and a most likely left winger star bucks worker wrote on the customer cup saying it was a racist drink

And what?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

And what?

Adding this. Utah Governor Cox on political division:

Youtube video

-Does not want hugs
-Wants instead for people to stop shooting each other
-Mentions that the video of Charlie's was so well circulated that even young people saw it "over and over" (in a loop)
-"Studies political violence" and has noted it's on both sides
-Host mentioned Steve Bannon called him a "national embarrassment".. he said that's fine, we can debate
-Who he blames for division: "Social media is a cancer and taking all our worst impulses and putting them on steroids." Drives people to division and hate and has "captured souls". Takes away from free agency and addicts young people to outrage and hate. "It is leading us down a very dark path"
-Host narrates: "A path through platforms that look like civil war"... "powered by algorithms written to amplify posts of rage"
-Cox thinks algorithms are destroying us and suggests it is like being attacked by a pack of wolves once the algorithms determine our leanings
-Cox isn't considered a "Trump Republican", he didn't vote for him in '16, but did in '20
-Trump supposedly bothers him about this...
-Cox re:The Right: "The tent is very broad"
-Refuses to run negative ads

Campaign "Ad" he ran with opponent:

Youtube video

Video Message for "Disagree Better" with Colorado Governor:

Youtube video

Apparently a group of governors are getting together to try to put some kind of consensus together to bring down the temperature. That's amazing, but it's also insane.

This is why we have a President. In a better political environment, he would've been the #1 person to give these kinds of interview and pull the strings. But nope. The American people don't even deserve that much according to these shitty parties. It's incredibly shameless the ugly they're crafting on top of everything else when the point of having been elected is that you're supposed to be the one we can hold accountable to steer the ship right...

[Maru]

Sharing this article with commentary because it all too accurately sums up the stellar scholarly thinking that surrounds people that support harming others for their political views...

I'm the witch who cursed Charlie Kirk. I want to speak to Erika directly because she deserves to hear the truth
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...age-erika.html

"I want to speak to Erika Kirk!" ... isn't she a witch... and doesn't she have email?

A witch who claims to have been involved in putting a curse on Charlie Kirk before he was killed has revealed she regrets the distress it caused to the conservative activist's widow Erika.

In an interview with the Daily Mail the spellcaster offered to correspond with her privately about it.

The witch, who goes by the name Priestess Lilin, claimed the hex was not intended to 'physically harm' the Turning Point USA founder and said she 'did not celebrate the loss of life.'

No no no, it was simply an unintended politically-motivated remote killing...

(By making such a big deal out of it, are they trying to really imply it actually could've been them?)

Charlie Kirk was assassinated on September 10 during a campus event at Utah Valley University.

Two days earlier, the liberal website Jezebel had published an article detailing how it paid several witches, who they contacted on the online marketplace Etsy, to curse Kirk in the days before he was murdered.

On Tuesday, Megyn Kelly revealed on her YouTube show that Erika Kirk had been 'genuinely rattled' by the Jezebel article.

The Kirks were so concerned by it that they asked a Catholic priest to undo the curse the night before the conservative commentator was shot dead.

Kelly said: 'Why torture a family like this? A Christian, believing family. Why do this vile thing to a young couple?'

Does she have to ask??

The Kirks summoned a Catholic priest to undo the curse the night before Charlie was shot dead at Utah Valley University

The Jezebel article was published two days before the death of Charlie Kirk and was later taken down

The Jezebel article was titled 'We Paid Some Etsy Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk,' and it was removed after the assassination.

In it the anonymous author mused about being able to purchase a 'curse as easily as I can buy a phone charger.'

They posed the question: 'Are you interested in punishing Kirk for the years of regressive rhetoric he's shouted at America's youth and anyone within earshot?

'Here at Jezebel, we're about to find out if there's a spell for that.'

One of the witches they contacted is known as Priestess Lilin.

The Daily Mail contacted a witch claiming to be the same Priestess Lilin via email.

Asked if she would like to apologize to Erika Kirk, she said: 'We regret any distress experienced. What we do is done based on an impartial perspective and at a professional level.

We're not sorry that your husband died, Erika, but that you had to suffer as the sad results of our bad customer service. Unfortunately no returns will be accepted by anyone by this point.

These people are a piece of work.

'We respect the widow’s feelings and welcome a private conversation to address her concerns.'

She added: 'Our spells are spiritual in nature

What does that even mean??

and we do not perform actions that are intended to cause physical harm.'

Asked if she believed the spell had any role in Charlie Kirk's death, she said: 'I would like to say that a person’s life and death always have weight, and we do not celebrate the loss of life.

No, but you're perfectly fine taking money to 'curse' others on behalf of people who would gladly celebrate that.

'While we cannot and would not claim responsibility for Mr. Kirk’s death, we do affirm that the magic we work with in our daily lives is very real.'

Erika Kirk was reportedly rattled by a Jezebel article that claimed the author had paid witches to put a curse on her husband Charlie days before his assassination

Priestess Lilin claimed it was not her who actually cast the spell, but her 'sister' who goes by the name High Priestess Leamashtu.

The Jezebel article described a curse that involved the burning of a photograph of Charlie Kirk.

Priestess Lilin said the majority of her work is casting spells for 'protection and healing' but that 'summoning demons' and communicating with spirits were 'not inherently "evil acts".'

Definition of curse:

curse

• the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc.
• Synonyms: malediction, fulmination, execration, imprecation
• Antonyms: benediction, blessing
  
• a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another.
  
• the act of reciting such a formula.
  
• a profane oath; curse word.
  
• an evil that has been invoked upon one.
• Synonyms: torment, affliction, plague, scourge, bane, trouble, calamity, misfortune
  
• the cause of evil, misfortune, or trouble.
• Synonyms: torment, affliction, plague, scourge, bane
  
• something accursed.
  
• Informal., Usually the curse the menstrual period; menstruation.
  
• an ecclesiastical censure or anathema.

'The Spiritual community views Demons as multi-faceted Spirits and, not one-dimensional big bad evils,' she said.

While the rest of society is grappling to fully contend with the evil that occupies this world, we have geniuses like this that treat it like a simple Facetime call.

'Mediumship is also perceived as an ethically neutral practice. Is it effective? Yes.'

She said she and Leamashtu had received a 'barrage of death threats' recently and have been banned by Etsy.

Oh no!

Esty did not respond to a request for comment from the Daily Mail.

How the hell do you respond to that.

Among a host of cleansing and healing spells Lilin and Leamashtu also offer 'Hexes and Curses' accompanied by a picture of a doll with pins stuck into it.

The specific spells include an 'Infernal Justice Black Magick Spell' and a 'Generational Black Magic Curse.'

Other spells promise to 'destroy their friendship,' 'make them hate each other,' and 'make them lose their job.'

It was unclear which one was cast in relation to Charlie Kirk.

On Tuesday, Megyn Kelly revealed on her show that she had wrestled with whether to reveal the incident because it was 'so vile and off and odd.'

She said: 'This is what I want the people at Jezebel to know, Erika and Charlie Kirk heard about these curses, and it really rattled Erika in particular.

Charlie Kirk with President Donald Trump at a rally in 2024 in Phoenix, Arizona

'She knew Christian teaching on this subject. She loved Charlie absolutely. She was scared when she heard of the curses Jezebel had culled up.

'So much so that she and Charlie contacted a friend – who I believe she said was a Catholic priest – and asked him to pray with them and over Charlie, the night before he was murdered.

'She eventually worked it through, and so did Charlie, that, as she told me, “weapons will form but not prosper,” that “satan and those witches have no power.”'

In the Jezebel article the anonymous author wrote: 'I want to make it clear, I'm not calling on dark forces to cause him harm.'

Suppose they actually believe in curses and are not just dabbling, do they not realize by publishing a formal declaration like this that other nutters will follow suit? Also if Charlie can be shot for his words, so can other people. These people are obviously off the charts stupid, but what's much worse is: 1) the incredible lack of self-awareness and 2) that we live in a world an article like the one in Jezebel is considered an acceptable form of expression.

In a statement after Charlie Kirk's death, Jezebel said: 'This story was published on September 8. Jezebel condemns the shooting of Charlie Kirk in the strongest possible terms.

'We do not endorse, encourage, or excuse political violence of any kind.'

"Words are violence", but it's OK to curse people.

[emseateng2014]

you do not really hear those type of local news that what should be major news coverages headline on like abc news nbc news and cbs news and also like on cnn and msnbc especially when it comes to the news coverage during the aftermath of charlie kirk assassination and the aftershocks of charlie kirks death

and when i say nbc news cbs news and abc new i am not talking about there hundreds of there local news i am talking about like the cnn and msnbc style of abc news nbc news and cbs news

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

And what?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by emseateng2014

you do not really hear those type of local news that what should be major news coverages headline on like abc news nbc news and cbs news and also like on cnn and msnbc especially when it comes to the news coverage during the aftermath of charlie kirk assassination and the aftershocks of charlie kirks death

and when i say nbc news cbs news and abc new i am not talking about there hundreds of there local news i am talking about like the cnn and msnbc style of abc news nbc news and cbs news

I can barely understand these posts, but I'll give it a try because maybe it's useful for others elsewhere...

There has been a lot of local and independent coverage on Charlie Kirk and there still is. It's caused a shift in attitude towards politics and whether we are coping with all that comes with that properly. It's hard to say where exactly it goes from here, but there's definitely an abrupt change in thinking in how we emotionally process our political events (and view the spectrum) and so in many ways the effects of that are still very much "going off".

Saving you a call to your OT:

Spoiler:

Re: The Growing Irrelevance of "National" News in our political discourse; Generally speaking Local kicks national news directly in the balls. There's such a push to try to revive/preserve local coverage as much as possible because national basically just regurgitates its own filter and uses soothing tactics to keep its audience appeased.

Cable News' viewership numbers indicate a non-existent audience just based on even the demographics watching. Nobody but old people who just want a person talking to them 24/7 in the room (a very real thing among the elderly) and airports/doctors offices.

People who expect substance are not watching them because they know the filter for it is very thick and balanced views rarely get through. But they're seen as relevant to a degree because they're clear mouth pieces for the individual parties. Most of what we see from them now are in clip form and it's usually just to remind people how terrible Cable News is. A lot of people have unsubscribed from cable and are now considered "cord cutters" (More on that later).

Cable channels are bought as part of massive packages by Cable providers. They can't buy the most popular channels without these horrible networks being tossed in (that's the deal) because they must be served as a full course meal. Even though the individual providers hate paying for it all. So providers have no choice but to pay for a slot for them.

The productions behind these channels are heavily funded by corporate sponsors with a specific message and filter that they're adamant they want to be presented to the public (positive or negative).

Advertising is very heavy on American TV. Endless round the clock pharmaceutical ads (perfectly legal here) that seem to plague filler channels, so there's a lot of money to spread around from that industry coming through Cable. You will see anti-depressant ads, other psych/medical drugs, etc, regularly featured during breaks on Cable News.

Other corporate interests (Birch Gold, etc) also help to fund these news channels and they're following the cynics to other mediums (Youtube political commentators) to fully capture their demographic... so in some way, the content centered around distress goes hand in hand with the commercials that promote big fixes.

When watching UK channels, I've noticed our CMs are not only constant by comparison, but feature more marketing. Whereas your channels are spending more airtime in-between focus more on pleasure (at least from what I've seen) and are also freely advertising their own channel's content and entertainment options.

Our entertainment is also heavily impacted by the heavy corporate bias with what is included/not included in programming. Most programming is subsidized by in-program advertising or catering to well-specified views, often influenced by what kind of lucrative advertising they're able to most attract.

As I mentioned, any people are now "cord cutters" due to the ridiculous expense of cable TV. Many do not bother at all to subscribe to these packages because of the cherry picked filler, the limited viewpoints and catering only to specific interests and focusing too heavily on reality, cynical media and similarly distilled content.

That said, there are good national-ish newspapers that have a local grounding and they seem to do the best of all sources (imo) of bridging the gap between covering national interest and local items as well... they don't seem as tethered to "affiliates" (network news) or the bigger organizations so have a little bit more independence in terms of the opinions they choose to publish...

For national... NY Post, The Hill, The Chronicle, Washington Post (depends on the topic), WSJ are a few off the top of my head. Some are more liberal or right-leaning than others, but they also have balance... I would drill down then to more local papers at the state/city level and they tend to have a more diverse perspective on current events. Many of them have Youtube channels that are easy enough to follow and track, though I have noticed that NBC seems to region lock their content more.

Local News Coverage from a local perspective; My city has at least 5 television stations with their own local coverage. Most are fantastic quality and air several times per day. Several lease/own helicopters that are flown around just to show the viewership current traffic conditions live during AM/PM coverage. Some of these are replaced by drones, as there have been at least two crashes I know of (with fatalities) over the years, but onsite coverage is still a guarantee.

The 5 or so channels doesn't include the Spanish speaking stations that have their own news that link up to different parts of the world with their own filter, BBC America News which features on Public Broadcasting, a Christian channel (an additional filter...) and several independent stations as well that have different types of news-ish coverage. This doesn't even AM radio which has talk. There's also several online/printed newspapers.

That's just in one city...

So I suggest to anyone, if your imagination of how people think and act in the US is coming solely from largely national news catering to a global perspective or even social media, then I have some terrible news for you.. your viewpoint is likely being going to be very limited.

I started a Local News Thread if you'd like to follow it. For now just adding interesting things that I think people will actually click. There's a lot more happening than what I post, but I try not to post too much heavy stuff as there's a lot of that already lately...

American Local News: https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=398384

[bots]

there are a huge number of people in the USA and very few have made their voice heard. From what i am hearing, most people are just carrying on as they always do. The country doesn't feel like a different place, so really, Trump has made a lot of structural changes largely unnoticed. There is no viable/effective opposition so he just does what he wants and his approval rating remains largely unchanged