[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Probably better to email the show or the studio then as they won’t be scurrying around the general chat section of a little forum like this

You never know tbf.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

And ultimately we’re all here on a Big Brother forum, discussing that and all our other shows, including I’m A Celeb., Strictly, X-Factor, Top Boy and whatever movie we’re Netflix-streaming. I don’t think anyone who’s committed to posting on a forum designated to a particular show is in a position to question people about their commitment to other shows.

That's true tbf.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You never know tbf.

Don’t bother with him, Mock. He’s just trying to get one up on me and that’s all there is to it. Cue the abuse-card from him, feeling victimised just-because people have opinions he doesn’t like or vibe with. Ditto for his childish wannabe-mockery, trying so hard to make a sting. But what’s truly inexcusable is his behaviour in the last page, trying to minimise people’s cultural scope of experiences because he doesn’t have the range to understand them. And to then have the nerve to probably stand there and pretend he didn’t understand. That’s a new low, even for him, and he does understand what he’s doing, bold as brass. Shows how much integrity he has and respect for cultural layers beyond the indigenes of Greater Manchester.

That existential disrespect obviously won’t mean as much to the average TiBBer as it will to me but either way, it’s beyond defense and the boundaries of what’s okay. I wouldn’t want to see anyone make excuses for him there. He needs to take responsibility for something, as much as he prefers not to. It’s easy for him to say “I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about” but that’s not acceptable and it’s exactly the sort of thing I’m always talking about when it comes to his refusal to take accountability for anything he says, because he’d rather play victim instead. And some people buy into it and enable that pattern. Yes, the average demographic on here doesn’t always account for the kind of specific nuance I hint at or sometimes even say outright but even without that context, it’s not for others to allow him to keep evading, diminishing and side-stepping without ever admitting what he’s actually doing for fear that it might stress him out beyond what he can cope with; even in the face of his intentional ignorance. It’s not on.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Don’t bother with him, Mock. He’s just trying to get one up on me and that’s all there is to it. Cue the abuse-card from him, feeling victimised just-because people have opinions he doesn’t like or vibe with. Ditto for his childish wannabe-mockery, trying so hard to make a sting.

You are forgetting something ..

I am happy enough posting all over the forum, about all manner of subjects and topics but for whatever reason you always feel compelled to just jump with a seemingly endless stream of toxic comments…. largely incoherent gobbledygook normally .


Any negative comments aimed in your direction have been a direct retaliation to an underserved , critical or plain nasty comment you’ve posted about me - I have never started anything it’s always you attacking and me defending or retaliating.

We could both just happily carry on in here if you could stop obsessing about me !!!

[Redway]

People who think not having a “scoobidoo” what someone’s on about when a line or gender/cultural boundary has been over-stepped absolves them of having to even apologise. Choosing not to understand the fuller context doesn’t make you above offending people and accounting for it, whether it was your original intent or not to minimise or mock them and their experiences. That’s wilful, arrogant ignorance and there’s no excuse in the world for that.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

People who think not having a “scoobidoo” what someone’s on about when a line or gender/cultural boundary has been over-stepped absolves them of having to even apologise. Choosing not to understand the fuller context doesn’t make you above offending people and accounting for it, whether it was your original intent or not to minimise or mock them and their experiences. That’s wilful, arrogant ignorance and there’s no excuse in the world for that.

Maybe if you stopped speaking in riddles then more people would interact with you

[Redway]

It’s wilful, intentional ignorance, Zizu. Plain-and-simple. I know I’m wasting my time with you but it has to be pointed out regardless. You were in the wrong. The least you could’ve done was take accountability for it when it was pointed out. Ignorance of the context doesn’t mean you can’t admit that you spoke disrespectfully and insensitively (since you’re big on sensitivity, as something you want but don’t always like giving back). But you’re not going to do any of that, because you’re allergic to owning your words and actions. Easier to just play dumb instead. It’s always served and worked for you. But the fact that you couldn’t even bring yourself to private accountability says more about you than it does me.

I won’t waste any more time with you on this topic but just know that wilful ignorance is not an excuse. Especially when someone points it out, just like people point out your misogyny over and over and over again, not just one person finding fault with you and picking at everything you say. Sometimes there really is fault to be found with your many negative, prejudiced posts.

You don’t have to understand why your posts are so objectifying or the ins-and-outs of the politics of black women’s hair to account for the fact that you tread on someone’s toes and said something that maybe you shouldn’t have. Between your behaviour on this thread and the quadrillion posts you make dehumanising and commodifying women a day, this pattern has been pointed out to you a million times, by a range of FMs. I’m just more persistent in calling it out because you strike a special chord of annoyance with me. Being infatuated with pretty women or wilfully culturally tone-deaf is not an excuse and the sooner you realise that the better, otherwise you’re going to continue pissing people off and getting pushback that you “cant handle”. Once-again, you were absolutely in the wrong, and without excuse, however-many people might enable you by giving you the benefit of the doubt because you’re “vulnerable and know no better”, at the age of 67, while you have the brass neck to ‘soooooo !! redwood’ everything and run around calling me out for pointing out how you do micro-cheat on your wife every day. As-if the odd playful comment is anything like the same thing as everyday ogling over and degrading women 1/5 your age and having random pornos follow you on an Instagram-account, with a bit of performative, context-devoid validation from Meta-AI to boot.

M’kay?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Ladies, ladies-settle down.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Redway

What did you end up doing?

I went. I reluctantly had a good time. We went to a nice restaurant, did sleepover, when to Tate the next day then went our separate ways