[Zizu]

Cheeky madam !!

Last week at the F1 meeting



Change of clothes for some reason

[Zizu]

This is apparently the photo used on her media accounts

[Zizu]

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

How awful for him.

Still send him back though.

[Urban Cragou]

Up to you how you want to post, Zizu, but what’s with your spaced out double-exclamation-marks? There a particular reason for that?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Urban Cragou

Up to you how you want to post, Zizu, but what’s with your spaced out double-exclamation-marks? There a particular reason for that?

Just added/ extra drama !!!!!!



I think it’s just a habit at this point

I’ll try not to do it if it annoys you in any way

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Just added/ extra drama !!!!!!



I think it’s just a habit at this point

I’ll try not to do it if it annoys you in any way

You don’t have to give it up for anyone, and it’s not like I particularly mind. I was just curious.

[Merry Mockmas]

I hope that this guy takes everyone involved in his fine to the cleaners, especially the judge for entertaining the idea.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/pensio...uth-5HjdPFW_2/

[Zizu]

Gloucester v Saracens ( men’s) Rugby ..

Such a shame there aren’t any ex players to fill the role of expert pundit for the game


Nice of her to explain the nuances of the scrimmage/ scrum

[Livia]

Sigh.......

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sigh.......

We now have women pundits /commentators on men’s rugby /football and ONLY women pundits /commentatorson women’s rugby

What happened to equality ??


To rub salt in our wounds the women haven’t played at anywhere close to the level of the players they are criticising/ critiquing !!

[Urban Cragou]

Women-pundits this, women-commentators that, Camilla-x. I really have tried to be patient with you more recently, Zizu, but you’re getting in your own way. You really don’t make it easy to just take you with a pinch of salt and walk away. Strong opinions are always going to warrant strong responses/pushback when those opinions are deeply and endlessly prejudiced. Your age and being autistic aren’t excuses. You need to let this toxic obsession go.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Urban Cragou

Women-pundits this, women-commentators that, Camilla-x. I really have tried to be patient with you more recently, Zizu, but you’re getting in your own way. You really don’t make it easy to just take you with a pinch of salt and walk away. Strong opinions are always going to warrant strong responses/pushback when those opinions are deeply and endlessly prejudiced. Your age and being autistic aren’t excuses. You need to stop it now.

I absolutely love women … including women in the workplace … I just don’t appreciate having them pushed down our throats in some crazy box ticking exercise .. you talk like I am alone in this opinion but a quick look online or in any pub or bar will show you a different picture entirely ..



The female pundits play football at an extremely low standard and as such they are simply not qualified to criticise or critique the elite level premiership footballers.


Imagine the next Nasa rocket launch and the expert was a high school science teacher .. that’s where we are at …



Some people in here make far more outlandish statements and without explanation

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Urban Cragou

Women-pundits this, women-commentators that, Camilla-x. I really have tried to be patient with you more recently, Zizu, but you’re getting in your own way. You really don’t make it easy to just take you with a pinch of salt and walk away. Strong opinions are always going to warrant strong responses/pushback when those opinions are deeply and endlessly prejudiced. Your age and being autistic aren’t excuses. You need to let this toxic obsession go.

He has no time for women unless he finds them attractive, that's my take. Being autistic isn't an acceptable excuse for being racist it shouldn't be an acceptable excuse for misogyny.

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by Livia

He has no time for women unless he finds them attractive, that's my take. Being autistic isn't an acceptable excuse for being racist it shouldn't be an acceptable excuse for misogyny.

Agreed. But do the moderators actually do anything about his misogyny, by-and-large? Nope. So he gets away with it every day because he’s “vulnerable” and can’t help but talk sideways about women he doesn’t find sexy.

He made some very culturally dismissive comments re. people who may or may not look white but are actually some degree of mixed on another thread and kept putting up a wall of “I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about” even when he was offered the option of taking accountability privately rather than on the public forum. If I was bordering on anti-Semitic just-because me and you had gotten into a bit of a tiff, I’d want to know about it. Not knowing the full cultural weight in a way that could be stonewalled as “Not a clue what you’re talking about, sorry” would be all-the-more-reason to be called out, privately or otherwise, and get myself a bit more respectfully educated on your experiences. Being made excuses for would enable me more than it would actually help. But I’m afraid Zizu doesn’t do accountability online, privately or publicly. We all have to work with assumptions, and sometimes those assumptions can be overwhelmingly culturally monolithic to what we can extrapolate to indigenous Greater Manchester, but we don’t always know who we’re talking to, the range of their cultural layers and experiences (which may diverge quite sharply from our own), and that goes for the whitest of the white as well as Israeli-descended Jews, mixed race people of an order of quarters, eighths and thirds (it’s not always 50-50) from a city that has countless intergenerational seeds of mixture thanks to docks, captains and (on a more unsavoury note) their role in slavery, Chinese, black and Hispanic people alike.

He either doesn’t “have a clue what you’re talking about,” as-if that’s an excuse for wilful ignorance, or his autism is of such a nature that he has zero control over his actions on here. Never do you see Zizu say, ‘Maybe I was genuinely wrong/insensitive/overstepping delicate ground.’ He might not be the only person with such views on female pundits but the way he talks you’d think he was the only neurodivergent person on this planet. Millions, if not billions, of people on this planet are neurodivergent but they still respect the opposite sex.

I thought I could at-least try and be done with all-this but I just had to echo back your frustration here, because it’s real, valid and his behaviour unacceptable. He has capacity, and a choice. He just chooses not to own a word he says.

[Urban Cragou]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I absolutely love women … including women in the workplace … I just don’t appreciate having them pushed down our throats in some crazy box ticking exercise .. you talk like I am alone in this opinion but a quick look online or in any pub or bar will show you a different picture entirely ..



The female pundits play football at an extremely low standard and as such they are simply not qualified to criticise or critique the elite level premiership footballers.


Imagine the next Nasa rocket launch and the expert was a high school science teacher .. that’s where we are at …



Some people in here make far more outlandish statements and without explanation

But we’re not talking about random geezers in the pub. We’re talking about you. It’s an obsession that you shoehorn into the most random of threads and have done for as long as I can remember, and you seem unusually wound up by women’s football for someone who doesn’t have to watch it. You talk as-if you have no choice but to be subjugated to the “extremely low standard” of women’s football and have to complain about it every day.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Gloucester v Saracens ( men’s) Rugby ..

Such a shame there aren’t any ex players to fill the role of expert pundit for the game


Nice of her to explain the nuances of the scrimmage/ scrum

Did you see the host for the Chelsea vs Aston Villa match?

She nearly made me forget that Villa had tragically won the game.