[arista]

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by bots

i'm supporting the removal of a cruel terrorist regime. However, I don't think this will be the end of the story, just the nature of the threat will change.

The people can't rise up against 500,000 armed regime supporters. I also have no idea what the Shah's grandson is doing. Does he think people have forgotten how corrupt the Shah's regime was

I acknowledge that Iran’s former leadership was brutal, but I keep coming back to the same question: is it really the responsibility of the USA and Europe to intervene—and for what benefit? What do we actually gain by entering yet another conflict in the Middle East? In the short term, I don’t see any obvious advantages for our security, our economy, or our political stability.

History hasn’t treated these interventions kindly. We remove one regime, only for another group to fill the vacuum—often just as untrustworthy, sometimes even worse. It can take years, sometimes a decade or more, before the West even begins to understand the new power structure, let alone influence it. And during that entire period, it’s ordinary people who suffer the consequences.

That’s what concerns me most. People are dying right now, and once a war begins, it becomes incredibly difficult to control or contain. Conflicts like this escalate quickly, and as more civilians are killed, the pressure to retaliate—officially or unofficially—only increases. That’s how small wars turn into regional ones.

So yes, Iran has been a problem for a long time. But does that automatically make it our responsibility to “liberate” them? And what does liberation even look like when there are still half a million armed loyalists to the regime? These are the questions no one seems willing to address, yet they’re the ones that matter most.

[arista]

Yes,
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
was established 46 years ago.

Above the Army.


Of Course,
President Trump is not looking at that long history.


So 4 or 5 more weeks of Intense Bombing
will look like another Iraqi mess.
to be honest

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes,
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
was established 46 years ago.

Above the Army.


Of Course,
President Trump is not looking at that long history.


So 4 or 5 more weeks of Intense Bombing
will look like another Iraqi mess.
to be honest

Totally agree.

You’re absolutely right about the IRGC’s long history. It’s been embedded above the regular army for nearly half a century, and that scale gets ignored far too often. You’re also spot on that short‑term thinking from political leaders doesn’t take any of that into account. Framing this as something that can be fixed in a few weeks of heavy strikes really does risk repeating the same pattern we saw in Iraq.

[Parmy]

What an embarrassment to Britain starmer is.

[Parmy]

Mr starmer they attacked our military bases...that gives us the legal right to attack..Moron.

[Cherie]

How ironic that a March in support of a regime that supresses women will take place on a day that celebrates them.... Many Iranians called into LBC this morning to say it should not go ahead and the majority on this March will never have been in Iran or never plan to...

Of course I assume it will go ahead

[Parmy]

At least we get some new chants to listen to during a Saturday shop.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It will be mostly paid demonstrators with Socialist Worker Party banners so best ignored as its all fake

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

It will be mostly paid demonstrators with Socialist Worker Party banners so best ignored as its all fake

True...they are getting bussed down from Manchester and Leeds....FACT.

[arista]

[March in support of Iran]


Bloody crazy.

The evil power of Iran must not get support

[Parmy]

Hopefully the celebrating Persians kick the **** out them.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

It will be mostly paid demonstrators with Socialist Worker Party banners so best ignored as its all fake

Well they called off a March in Whitechapel because it might upset the locals, many Iranians are not happy about this going ahead, why in a Western allegedly civilised society would anyone march in support of Iran and to what end

[Parmy]

2 videos from America coming to a street near you.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1D9daezK1A/


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16jkMHeSSb/

[bots]

i wonder how many of the green party, your party and labour will attend?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Parmy

2 videos from America coming to a street near you.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1D9daezK1A/


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16jkMHeSSb/

The chap in that first video hit the nail right on its head.

[arista]

615 passengers are on a Return Flight
from Dubia (limited flights have now resumed) right now
The Emirates' first flight is to arrive, soon at Gatwick


And also another to land at Manchester Airport.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Livia

The chap in that first video hit the nail right on its head.

Didn't he just.

[Parmy]

My pal was on the news being interviewed after landing back home..1st time on telly, and he picked his nose.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Parmy

My pal was on the news being interviewed after landing back home..1st time on telly, and he picked his nose.

At least on UK soil
He is safer

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Parmy

2 videos from America coming to a street near you.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1D9daezK1A/


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16jkMHeSSb/

Well you know people who have never lived in Iran know best,....saviours

[Maru]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes,
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
was established 46 years ago.

Above the Army.


Of Course,
President Trump is not looking at that long history.


So 4 or 5 more weeks of Intense Bombing
will look like another Iraqi mess.
to be honest

Or it could just mean we keep finding more and more things that really need fully blowing up (like supply lines and ****)... and if we're already there, might as well finish it all off.

This is also a good opportunity to deal with anything China is doing there.

[Cherie]

Is every issue just going to be just one big long thread now?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is every issue just going to be just one big long thread now?

seems that way now

as we are running out of the unlimited space on the forum

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Parmy

2 videos from America coming to a street near you.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1D9daezK1A/


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16jkMHeSSb/

Remember, they're the "common people" so be polite