[thesheriff443]

As of June last year 1.6 million people born overseas were claiming universal credit

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

There is litter all over the country does it mean people are no patriots? No it means some people drop litter some people don’t
And people that don’t drop litter haven’t got the time to go and pick up litter because they are too busy trying to stay ahead of the bills because we are spending money on people to live on hotels and then be put on universal credit and get fee access to the nhs

The idea that all these migrants are going to working is utter nonsense

These flags were deliberately put up to represent pride and patriotism. Leaving them to rot isn’t the same as someone dropping rubbish, it’s organised neglect of something that’s supposed to mean something.

And no one is asking random people to go out and fix it. The point is simple: if you put something up to represent pride, maintain it or take it down. Otherwise it just looks performative which it obviously is.

As for migrants, the idea that none of them work just isn’t reality. Millions are in employment, paying taxes and contributing every day. That’s not opinion, that’s fact. A hard one for you to grasp maybe but still a fact.

It feels like you’re jumping between points to avoid the original one: if these flags are about pride, why are they being left in a state that shows the opposite?

[thesheriff443]

1.6 million migrants on universal credit , 16 percent

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

As of June last year 1.6 million people born overseas were claiming universal credit

That stat on its own doesn’t prove what you think it does.

Born overseas isn’t the same as recent migrants. It includes people who’ve lived here for decades, have citizenship, and have paid into the system like anyone else.

Universal Credit is also claimed by people who are working but on low income, so being on it doesn’t mean someone isn’t contributing.

The wider picture is that millions of foreign-born people are in employment across the UK, including the NHS, construction, transport and hospitality. They are part of the workforce keeping things running.

One number without context doesn’t change that.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Essentially he is "triggered" that there is not a system in operation for Flags to be renewed on an annual basis a bit like pot hole repairs or Trigger's brush on Only Fools and Horses



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If something’s put up to represent pride, leaving it faded and falling apart makes the whole thing look neglected. It’s not about creating some annual flag replacement scheme, it’s about basic upkeep or just taking them down when they’re past it. You know… having pride.

You don’t need a system for that, just a bit of common sense.

The hypocrisy of it all is hilarious really.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

That stat on its own doesn’t prove what you think it does.

Born overseas isn’t the same as recent migrants. It includes people who’ve lived here for decades, have citizenship, and have paid into the system like anyone else.

Universal Credit is also claimed by people who are working but on low income, so being on it doesn’t mean someone isn’t contributing.

The wider picture is that millions of foreign-born people are in employment across the UK, including the NHS, construction, transport and hospitality. They are part of the workforce keeping things running.

One number without context doesn’t change that.

Go and ask the people that put the flags up why they haven’t been replaced because no one on this forum put flags up on street signs or light poles

[Glenn.]

I guess the reality is just too difficult to grasp. Deflect deflect deflect

[Glenn.]

If these flags are about pride, why are they being left in a state that shows the opposite?

It’s a simple question.

[Cherie]

Maybe they are left there as a metaphor for how broken Britain is

[Glenn.]

But that is in direct contradiction to the reason they went up.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

If these flags are about pride, why are they being left in a state that shows the opposite?

It’s a simple question.

Again we are not responsible for putting up the flags go and find someone that did and ask them

It’s pretty simple

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Again we are not responsible for putting up the flags go and find someone that did and ask them

It’s pretty simple

But you were all so vocal when they went up….

I guess it really is just performative nonsense.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But you were all so vocal when they went up….

I guess it really is just performative nonsense.

Was I ?
Can you show me?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But that is in direct contradiction to the reason they went up.

Not really the government have shown month on month a distinct lack of interest in helping people with anything, for example they have lost 89k jobs in hospitality since their budget last Autumn alone


and their response to the current crisis has been woeful

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its the kind of faux concern that old ladies write into free advertising "newspapers about

"wait no they dont"

oh yes they do

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk...riotic-6531370

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not really the government have shown month on month a distinct lack of interest in helping people with anything, for example they have lost 89k jobs in hospitality since their budget last Autumn alone


and their response to the current crisis has been woeful

Sounds like a contradiction to me. They were raised to show “pride” in the country. You can’t move the goalposts to suit yourself.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sounds like a contradiction to me. They were raised to show “pride” in the country. You can’t move the goalposts to suit yourself.

And yet you still can’t answer. Happening up and down the country. Where is the pride in the flag? Why can’t you answer?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Its the kind of faux concern that old ladies write into free advertising "newspapers about

"wait no they dont"

oh yes they do

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk...riotic-6531370

oh dear, not an original thought then

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

And yet you still can’t answer. Happening up and down the country. Where is the pride in the flag? Why can’t you answer?

Because we are not responsible for the flags or their upkeep

Is it that hard for you to grasp that concept

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

And yet you still can’t answer. Happening up and down the country. Where is the pride in the flag? Why can’t you answer?

You asked a question, I have answered, if you don't like them that's not my problem

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Because we are not responsible for the flags or their upkeep

Is it that hard for you to grasp that concept

But so many of you were all for them being raised. You have to agree it’s a bit fishy.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You asked a question, I have answered, if you don't like them that's not my problem

It wouldn’t be so bad if your answers made any sense.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

It wouldn’t be so bad if your answers made any sense.

Risk of arrest
Cost of living
A metaphor for Broken Britain

which of those can you not make sense of?

Is the language too complicated for you?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But so many of you were all for them being raised. You have to agree it’s a bit fishy.

So many of who?

[Cherie]

Can you point to one person from the forum who actively put a flag up and now you want us to take them down, or replace them, make it make sense