[seaniscool]

sorry for sounding stupid but what exactly is halal meat and if you're muslim can you eat pork because if i remember mo said he ate pork in his vt sorry if its already been posted

[Annie]

I think its something like the animal died of natural death so that its not been slaughtered for food

[Big_Brutta]

Meat that is approved as religiously proper for a Muslim.

[Dan_]

It's Animals that have to be slaughtered in a certain way and also blessed.

[Lauren]

Well, the animal must not have been dead prior to slaughter as this makes the meat haram (forbidden). A muslim must perform the slaughter, and all flowing blood must be drained from it. It must be done quickly, such as a swipe to the jugular, and the animal must be healthy and clean. This will make it halal (which in Arabic translates to 'permitted' or 'permissible'). Hope this helps.

(Ooh also, can't be killed in the vicinity of pigs).

[Matt10k]

An animal that is slaughtered by having its throat cut by a single swipe and then blessed.

[spitfire]

An even more barbaric way to kill animals than most of the western world use.

[kdee]

Originally posted by spitfire
An even more barbaric way to kill animals than most of the western world use.

yip i agree

[rayheartbliss]

i never new wat halal meant was!

i thought it was some kind of rare animal of sum sort! O.o?

so its basiclly blessed meat then?

[Tom]

I heard they slice its stomach or neck open and just leave it to bleed to death. There are certain regulations like it has to be blessed and things like that.

[Callum]

I think they were asked to purchase some hello meat on the apprentice before.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Callum
I think they were asked to purchase some hello meat on the apprentice before.

It was a kosher chicken but she bought a halal chicken because she thought they could turn it into one

(Whats kosher btw?)

[Fom]

Yeh I would rather none halal meat, I don't see what's wrong with stunning the animal then slitting its throat...

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by Tom
(Whats kosher btw?)

Its the jewish equivelent of the Muslim Halal meat, not a lot of difference just this is blessed by a Jewish Rabbi rather than and Islamic Imman, before cooked and eaten.

[farhad]

Originally posted by seaniscool
sorry for sounding stupid but what exactly is halal meat and if you're muslim can you eat pork because if i remember mo said he ate pork in his vt sorry if its already been posted

Halal in Arabic means Lawful. So it is the certain meats Allah has made it lawful to human, and unlawful are called Haram. Halal Meat is a Islamic way of slaughtering the meat which is different from Western slaughter. The aniaml scientifically proven dies of painless death as compared to stunning, and after the slaughter, all the blood is gushed out, the bacteria that could be present in the blood is cleaned out so it doesn't cause harm when cooking it, and the meat is healthy.

[farhad]

Originally posted by spitfire
An even more barbaric way to kill animals than most of the western world use.

Its actually more kindest way to kill the animal, as the animal doesn't feel any pain, just slitt the throat, and it is dead, then it is blessed in the name of God.

[Marc]

hahahahah gotta love the apprentice.. that jenny was a twat

[farhad]

Originally posted by Fom
Yeh I would rather none halal meat, I don't see what's wrong with stunning the animal then slitting its throat...

Halal way is actullay not painful:

Scientific evidence through monitering ecg and eeg signals during slaughtering via electrodes attached to the animal show that the halal method of killing an animal is the most humane. The throat of the animal is cut with a very sharp knife cutting the jugular and carotid veins along with the trachea and oesphagus but leaving the spinal cord intact, because by severing the spinal cord it would cause the animal alot of pain. Through this way of slaughter there was no change in the eeg graph for the first three seconds...just the same how we can cut ourselves and not notcice til some time later. the following three seconds were characterised by a condition of deep sleep-like unconciousness brought about by the draining of large volumes of blood. thereafter the eeg records a zero reading showing no pain being felt at all. the bodily movements here are simply the reflex of the spinal cord and not because of pain.

Using the western method of stunning the animal looks peaceful but is in fact not. the eeg readings indicate severe pain immediately after stunning. In the halal way the animal dies from the starvation of blood and oxygen due to blood loss. the western method stops the heart while the animal still feels pain and because the body doesnt convulse there is often blood retention within the animal which of course isnt as clean to eat.

But can I now say something else:

People need care. People in USA and all over world need help and people at this moment in time have their priority wrong. Care more for animals than people.
Halal Slaughter constitutes the cutting of the neck of the cattle to allow thorough bleeding of the animal as animal blood is believed to contains hormones that incite carnal tendencies in humans, which is partially true.

[Marc]

Originally posted by farhad

Halal way is actullay not painful:

Scientific evidence through monitering ecg and eeg signals during slaughtering via electrodes attached to the animal show that the halal method of killing an animal is the most humane. The throat of the animal is cut with a very sharp knife cutting the jugular and carotid veins along with the trachea and oesphagus but leaving the spinal cord intact, because by severing the spinal cord it would cause the animal alot of pain. Through this way of slaughter there was no change in the eeg graph for the first three seconds...just the same how we can cut ourselves and not notcice til some time later. the following three seconds were characterised by a condition of deep sleep-like unconciousness brought about by the draining of large volumes of blood. thereafter the eeg records a zero reading showing no pain being felt at all. the bodily movements here are simply the reflex of the spinal cord and not because of pain.

Using the western method of stunning the animal looks peaceful but is in fact not. the eeg readings indicate severe pain immediately after stunning. In the halal way the animal dies from the starvation of blood and oxygen due to blood loss. the western method stops the heart while the animal still feels pain and because the body doesnt convulse there is often blood retention within the animal which of course isnt as clean to eat.

But can I now say something else:

People need care. People in USA and all over world need help and people at this moment in time have their priority wrong. Care more for animals than people.
Halal Slaughter constitutes the cutting of the neck of the cattle to allow thorough bleeding of the animal as animal blood is believed to contains hormones that incite carnal tendencies in humans, which is partially true.

: sleep:

[baroquepop]

From my experience, halal meat, such as lamb, is EXACTLY the same meat as your meat, and it's killed in EXACTLY the same way in British slaughterhouses. The only difference is that a Muslim slaughterman, offering up a prayer to Allah, is working alongside a normal slaughterman. In either case, the animal is electrically stunned in the head, and then its throat is cut. (Well, you did ask!)

The main purpose of halal meat is to make people feel obedient to their faith, hence separate and superior.

[farhad]

Originally posted by baroquepop
From my experience, halal meat, such as lamb, is EXACTLY the same meat as your meat, and it's killed in EXACTLY the same way in British slaughterhouses. The only difference is that a Muslim slaughterman, offering up a prayer to Allah, is working alongside a normal slaughterman. In either case, the animal is electrically stunned in the head, and then its throat is cut. (Well, you did ask!)

The main purpose of halal meat is to make people feel obedient to their faith, hence separate and superior.

This is not the only reason, its also based on scientfic reasons, as well as the slaughter of Islamic way is to be kind and aniaml to not feel pain. It does look though when Animals get slaughtered in Islamic way that Animal is suffering from pain, but actual its not. The research by a German scientist showed EEG graph to record zero, meaning no pain.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Marcjswp

: sleep:

Thats right, yes Scientist have made a fool out of those who campaigned to stop Halal Meat, calling it a cruel, Science has disproved their claim.

Also the whole industry behind food production is sick and has resulted in mad cow disease, foot & mouth and so on. If the blood from the animals is drained off then we would have avoided a lot of the issues which we are facing today. Halal slaughter requires a very sharp knife, so the animal dies very quickly and certainly quicker than if you use the stunning method. It just a shame people cannot see beyond their own nose and consider everything that comes from religion as a something bad.

[xephrev]

Wow, a Muslim lecturing people on science. Are religious nuts allowed on this forum?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by xephrev
Wow, a Muslim lecturing people on science. Are religious nuts allowed on this forum?

As long as the posts are respecting, and within topic - they're allowed.

[dipeshp]

Originally posted by farhad
The research by a German scientist showed EEG graph to record zero, meaning no pain.

lool no pain? lemme cut ur throat n see if it hurts