[nyameko]

Originally posted by AndyJK

Youre thinking of the first occasion Science walked in. I'm talking about the second time when only Anthony and Craig were present which was well past midnight and when Derek and Kemal were in bed. Watch the highlights again and see for yourself.

800% disagree

[Ruth]

Originally posted by AndyJK
And this, let me tell you, is the first time Ive found myself defending Craig in the whole series. Unlike yourself and other members I dont make a list of which housemates, past and present, are my favourites and least favourites and where I find myself having to defend their actions regardless. Thats the beauty about being a neutral observer to the show.

I have said on several occasions when housemates I like have behaved badly (in my opinion). Everyone behaves badly sometimes, but generally if I think they are a decent good person, I like them - we are all only human. And I don't blindly criticise the housemates I don't like. I have even stuck up for Maxwell when I feel that he has been unfairly treated for example, and he was my least favourite housemate.

Yes, I have listed the housemates I like and dislike, but I don't have strong enough feelings about anybody in the house to let it bother me!

I'm not trying to be argumentative though Andy - each to their own eh?

[nyameko]

they are all housemates,equal and they can sit anywhere etc toilet.where did craig get the right to tell science where to or not sit .ok may be he wanted to please himself like yesterday,

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by Ruth
I have said on several occasions when housemates I like have behaved badly (in my opinion). Everyone behaves badly sometimes, but generally if I think they are a decent good person, I like them - we are all only human. And I don't blindly criticise the housemates I don't like. I have even stuck up for Maxwell when I feel that he has been unfairly treated for example, and he was my least favourite housemate.

Yes, I have listed the housemates I like and dislike, but I don't have strong enough feelings about anybody in the house to let it bother me!

I'm not trying to be argumentative though Andy - each to their own eh?

Im just pointing out that Craig had every right to feel angry at Science and telling him he shouldnt have come into the room (the occasion when Ant and Craig and nobody else was in the room) and a good example if any to prove that Science seeks confrontation and arguments. I just want you to acknowledge that as you seemed quite angry that Craig should tell Science to do anything.

[Ruth]

I think Craig was out of order in that instance.

[Intruder]

the housemates are as bad as each other lol

[Intruder]

because if anthony was so perfect he wouldnt just sit there and listen to craig bitch he would tell him to stop so he likes the bitchyness even if he dont do it, eugene listens from derek to if dey never liked it they would say stop

[Ruth]

I'm not angry though - I'm not that bothered enough about any of the housemates to get angry - but I do think Craig was wrong; not just because it was Science he was having a go at, but whoever it had been I would have thought he was wrong.

As I said, each to their own opinions

[nyameko]

Originally posted by AndyJK

I'm just pointing out that Craig had every right to feel angry at Science and telling him he shouldnt have come into the room (the occasion when Ant and Craig and nobody else was in the room) and a good example if any to prove that Science seeks confrontation and arguments. I just want you to acknowledge that as you seemed quite angry that Craig should tell Science to do anything.

why should he tell him anything

[Ruth]

Anyway, I have to get back to work now, so I can't stop.


One last thing though - if Science had said to Craig what Craig said to Science I would have said that Science was in the wrong.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by AndyJK

Youre thinking of the first occasion Science walked in. I'm talking about the second time when only Anthony and Craig were present which was well past midnight and when Derek and Kemal were in bed. Watch the highlights again and see for yourself.

I remember him coming in the second time. He came in quietly and explained to Ant and Craig that he was there to talk to them. He even said a few times about the level of his voice and asked "ok, this is talking isn't it, not shouting". Science actually managed to remain calm and try to talk sensibly, but it was Craig who started the shouting and yelling. This is why most people think Craig was in the wrong, and it was a masterstroke by Science. He realised that Craig was trying to wind him up and so came back in a calm manner and let Craig do all the shouting and yelling. He turned Craig's little pathetic efforts to rile him right around on him and screwed him good!

Well, thats my reading and recollection of the situation!

[nyameko]

Originally posted by Slartibartfast

I remember him coming in the second time. He came in quietly and explained to Ant and Craig that he was there to talk to them. He even said a few times about the level of his voice and asked "ok, this is talking isn't it, not shouting". Science actually managed to remain calm and try to talk sensibly, but it was Craig who started the shouting and yelling. This is why most people think Craig was in the wrong, and it was a masterstroke by Science. He realised that Craig was trying to wind him up and so came back in a calm manner and let Craig do all the shouting and yelling. He turned Craig's little pathetic efforts to rile him right around on him and screwed him good!

Well, thats my reading and recollection of the situation!

no contest