[NettoSuperstar!]

Toms dissaproval of gays/gays adopting comes from what people told him when he was growing up and the bible.

[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7
you seem to have missed my earlier post ...

ps on topic ... roughly 1 in 10 people are gay ... statistic show that whether they are raised in a gay or a straight household the percentage is still the same. So that suggests that a child is equally likey of being gay when parented by straight parents or gay parent ie has no effect... it's genetic.
Tom your line
"Psychologists think you learn it and its in your upbringing."
is this a lie from you? did you just make this up?

Its not genetic don't you mean?

But anyway the thing about up bringing is a true theory. Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice.

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Toms dissaproval of gays/gays adopting comes from what his parents taught him and the bible.

How irrelevant

Parents aren't religious and neither am I. If you're going to pass opinions like that at least get your facts straight but I'm not going to go into my personal life. And no I'm not contradicting myself and changing my story before people say that.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

How irrelevant

Parents aren't religious and neither am I. If you're going to pass opinions like that at least get your facts straight but I'm not going to go into my personal life. And no I'm not contradicting myself and changing my story before people say that.

thats the reasons you gave

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

thats the reasons you gave

I didn't say parents. I said upbringing. You're implying I said that.

[NettoSuperstar!]

"My reasoning is that I come from quite a religious background and its just something I've always been told isn't right." Tom

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

I didn't say parents. I said upbringing. You're implying I said that.

Whatever your just being pedantic, it doesnt really matter who told you, people did

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Whatever your just being pedantic, it doesnt really matter who told you, people did

I'm not being pedantic, I'm just saying what you are trying to pass off as a fact is wrong.

Being a smart a*se and reading into things doesn't always work.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

I'm not being pedantic, I'm just saying what you are trying to pass off as a fact is wrong.

Being a smart a*se and reading into things doesn't always work.

It doesnt matter who it was it has no relavence to the argument whoever bought you up to believe that has no logic either. And you are being pedantic

[NettoSuperstar!]

Ive edited it to make you happy

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

It doesnt matter who it was it has no relavence to the argument whoever bought you up to believe that has no logic either. And you are being pedantic

If it doesn't have relevance then why imply I said that and why bring it up? I'm not being pedantic, I'm just correcting you.

[30stone]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yeh but only cos thats what your used to now, you probably wouldnt care if thats what you'd known all your life if they were lovin/good parents. Better than being with an abusive family or in care for a start

This is true, and to be honest, no one on here can really comment on having gay parents unless they have them.

Because without having gay parents we dont know what they are like so for everyone to make judgement is a bit off...

[ange7]

Originally posted by Tom

Its not genetic don't you mean?

But anyway the thing about up bringing is a true theory. Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice.

No mate...I mean what exactly what I wrote ... it IS genetic. That's pretty much what we've been aruging about the whole timw .... you just pick on that did you? hehe

" Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice."
Sorry that's not even remoely true ... show me your source... I've never heard that one...... unless by "some psychologists " you mean the psychologists at your local church.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

If it doesn't have relevance then why imply I said that and why bring it up? I'm not being pedantic, I'm just correcting you.

Because Im saying your reasoning is illogical, doesnt matter whether it was your parents or the next door neighbour, its all prejudice based on nothing logical

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by 30stone

This is true, and to be honest, no one on here can really comment on having gay parents unless they have them.

Because without having gay parents we dont know what they are like so for everyone to make judgement is a bit off...

I know two people bought up by Lesbians and theyve never had any great problems

[ange7]

"I'm not being pedantic, I'm just correcting you."
OMG
sorry I'm out nighty night

[NettoSuperstar!]

lol

[30stone]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

I know two people bought up by Lesbians and theyve never had any great problems

Then they are the sort of people that know whats its like and can judge weather right or wrong.

though i know every one will still have opinion on this.

[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7

No mate...I mean what exactly what I wrote ... it IS genetic. That's pretty much what we've been aruging about the whole timw .... you just pick on that did you? hehe

There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else.

" Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice."
Sorry that's not even remoely true ... show me your source... I've never heard that one...... unless by "some psychologists " you mean the psychologists at your local church.

For starters I don't have a local church and I don't go.

If psychologists didn't believe it then there wouldn't be a huge nature v nurture debate around it. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you can dismiss it as being false

[NettoSuperstar!]

In 1991 LeVay published a controversial paper in the journal Science that described an anatomical difference between the brains of homosexual and heterosexual men.

In his seminar, LeVay described his own work and that of other researchers who give nature their vote in the nature versus nurture debate. LeVay referred to studies of separately-raised twins that suggest that sexual orientation has a genetic component.

[NettoSuperstar!]

"There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else. "

Wrong, plenty of new research to suggest there are differences in biological make up of /gay people. Social factors may play a part but that doesnt mean if you are bought up in a gay family you will turn out gay, thats rubbish

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
"There is no proof to say it is genetic, more evidence points away from that. If you're born gay then its nothing to do with genes. Its something else. "

Wrong, plenty of new research to suggest there are differences in biological make up of /gay people

Genetic often refers to something passed down. I'm not doubting the biological make up at all.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

Genetic often refers to something passed down. I'm not doubting the biological make up at all.

well theres not evidence of a gay gene as such but there are probably biological/genetic differences that make someone more likely to be gay

[NettoSuperstar!]

But the clear focus of sexual-orientation research has shifted to biological causes, and there hasn't been much science produced to support the old theories tying homosexuality to upbringing.

[Jackie]

I know a gay couple who live together they adopted a teenage boy now he's gay.