[Jayson]

Are you Theist (Beleive in God)
Atheist (Dont beleive in God)
Agnostic (Are open to the idea)

If you're none of the above, state in post.

Just Interested.

Im Atheist, I wish I was able to beleive but I cant.

[Shaun]

Agnostic. More so in the sense that I 'don't really care'.

[Twilight]

Sort of Agnostic

[Princess]

Athiest. But I do believe that is there some external force that controls karma and all that. I also believe in fate and that everything happens for a reason.

[Z]

Atheist, I think I'd be very easily swayed if I saw something really conclusive that proved the existence of God, I wouldn't go into denial or whatever, but as I've not been presented with any decent argument that has convinced me to date, I'm still an atheist. I wouldn't say I'm agnostic because I'm not really open to the concept of believing in God, but I think if I was given conclusive proof I would become a theist, if that makes sense?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Princess
Athiest. But I do believe that is there some external force that controls karma and all that. I also believe in fate and that everything happens for a reason.

You're agnostic then. Atheism is just believing this is it and we/science control everything.

I'm agnostic as well ...... there has to be more but the bible is a load of bullcrap

[Princess]

Originally posted by Tom

You're agnostic then. Atheism is just believing this is it and we/science control everything.

I'm agnostic as well ...... there has to be more but the bible is a load of bullcrap

Hmm than I thought very many people are atheists then. Karma happens,fate is real,it's not all us. I don't say very many people believe in nothing but ourselves.

[Natalie.]

Atheist

[LemonJam]

Originally posted by Shaun
Agnostic. More so in the sense that I 'don't really care'.

Same, although my familys very Christian.

[Christina]

I'm Thiest [Christian]

[Lauren]

Neither.

I am not atheist, because I do not accept the concept of "God".
I am not agnostic, for the same reason.

I guess my views don't have a label, because they're customised to my own beliefs?

[Tom]

Originally posted by Lauren
Neither.

I am not atheist, because I do not accept the concept of "God".
I am not agnostic, for the same reason.

I guess my views don't have a label, because they're customised to my own beliefs?

I'm agnostic and don't have a concept of God. To be agnostic you just have to believe there is more to the world than science can eventually prove, whether its ghosts, karma, life after death whatever.

Most people think they're atheists when they're really not (I thought the same at one point)

Atheism isn't just not believing in God

[bronaaaa]

Theist, I'm doubtfull but, its just a phase though

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tom

I'm agnostic and don't have a concept of God. To be agnostic you just have to believe there is more to the world than science can eventually prove, whether its ghosts, karma, life after death whatever.

Most people think they're atheists when they're really not (I thought the same at one point)

Atheism isn't just not believing in God

No, agnosticism refers directly to a deity, which in turn refers directly to a sole "controller". Since I do not give way to that concept, I'm not qualified under the term 'agnostic'.
If anything, I'm "agnostic atheist", but I don't even strictly come under that.

Btw, you're also wrong about "To be agnostic you just have to believe there is more to the world than science can eventually prove" - because there is the agnosticism branch that understands that objectively these things don't exist.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Lauren

No, agnosticism refers directly to a deity, which in turn refers directly to a sole "controller". Since I do not give way to that concept, I'm not qualified under the term 'agnostic'.
If anything, I'm "agnostic atheist", but I don't even strictly come under that.

Btw, you're also wrong about "To be agnostic you just have to believe there is more to the world than science can eventually prove" - because there is the agnosticism branch that understands that objectively these things don't exist.

You're kind of wrong Lauren (I've always wanted to say that, well without the kind of )

The basics to agnosticism is, to quote a definition, "the doctrine that certainty about first principles or absolute truth is unattainable and that only perceptual phenomena are objects of exact knowledge". A god obviously plays a big part in it but it isn't necessary because agnosticism is concerned with knowledge rather than beliefs. A lot of other definitions use the subject of knowing whether or not a god exists, whilst many don't. If it was a crucial point it would be in all definitions and in some definitions is only used for effect to demonstrate the type of knowledge we can never gain.

In essence, agnostics don't care either way and think there could be something else, but there also might not be. We'll never find out anyway (well not in this life, assuming there is an afterlife) so its pointless arguing over it.

[Lauren]

Tom, without meaning to sound patronising, there are different types of agnosticism. All of them surrounding a concept of a deity, or the knowledge thereof of a deity. Both including the term "deity", even if the latter is simply the knowledge of.

You were right when you said that was the "basics" to agnosticism.

Edit: Wait a second, we're both arguing the same point? LMAO. I think that means you misunderstood my initial point of not being labelled agnostic.

I'll try and say it basic cos my mind goes ahead of me at times.

If we take the definition of agnostic as being "An agnostic believes that the nature of God and/or supernatural are unknown and unknowable by human beings, if they exist at all" - which we've both agreed with. Then the reason I do not fall under that, is because in order to have knowledge (and lack thereof), you have to accept the concept of it.

[Fom]

I am atheist, a large atheist. I don't believe in god and never will, I believe that just because we can't prove something doesn't mean there is a magic man in the sky, it took us thousand of years to learn what we know, these things take time.

[Tom]

This is all confusing Lauren we're arguing the same thing but pretending we're not

[Nicky.]

Exactly what Fom said, Athiest, always will be.

I, in no way, believe that a magic man in the sky created everything, everything evolved over millions of years.

I was brought up this way, dads parents brought him up going to church every Sunday, and he hated it... he rebelled at 16 ish and never went near church again! xD

[Stardoll]

I'm agnostic, leaning towards atheist.

[Scarlett.]

Theist


Athiests moan about peoples beliefs and how its forced on them, then they try to make everyone beleive what they beleive, hypocrites

[pinkmichk]

theist

[Fom]

Originally posted by Chewy
Theist


Athiests moan about peoples beliefs and how its forced on them, then they try to make everyone beleive what they beleive, hypocrites

I don't force it on anyone, I do think people are stupid for being religious but I don't force it on anyone. I just think life is too short to follow rules like the bible and things say, live life the way you want too, have morals obviously but come on, you only live once!

[Stardoll]

Originally posted by Chewy
Theist


Athiests moan about peoples beliefs and how its forced on them, then they try to make everyone beleive what they beleive, hypocrites

They say that because religious people can sometimes be a bit pushy, if for no other reason than their holy book tells them to recruit members to their church. I haven't seen many atheists do that, frankly.

I "let" everyone have their own beliefs, although there is nothing to let. Individualism for the win!

[Fangz]

Militant atheist.