[golden]

Everything Lisa is accused of doing, Freddie is doing the same:
having arguments
bitching
trying to persuade hms to like/dislike others
standing up for themselves
defending others

If Lisa is indeed a bully then so is Freddie.
I have no doubt most of you agree!

[Saph]

here here! i think that means i agree lol

[CaPPa]

Halfwit has respect for other people, Lisa doesn't.
Halfwit will listen to other people's opinions, Lisa wont if they are not the same as her opinion.
Halfwit helps others in times of conflict or stress, Lisa stirs the conflict and stress.
Halfwit has a brain, Lisa doesn't.

They are not alike at all.

[golden]

Originally posted by CaPPa
Halfwit has respect for other people, Lisa doesn't.
Halfwit will listen to other people's opinions, Lisa wont if they are not the same as her opinion.
Halfwit helps others in times of conflict or stress, Lisa stirs the conflict and stress.
Halfwit has a brain, Lisa doesn't.

They are not alike at all.

Freddie's been bitching about Lisa for weeks saying she's turning everyone against him..Does everyone with a brain suffer from Paranoia...wait I can answer that...No!

[MaratSafinForever]

Originally posted by CaPPa
Halfwit has respect for other people, Lisa doesn't.
Halfwit will listen to other people's opinions, Lisa wont if they are not the same as her opinion.
Halfwit helps others in times of conflict or stress, Lisa stirs the conflict and stress.
Halfwit has a brain, Lisa doesn't.

They are not alike at all.

Pretty much what I think think.

[BB_Eye]

They are nothing alike

[LisaHawk]

Maybe Lisa will persaude him into having a sex change and then make her/him her sex slave. They shall call him..... crap I can't think of a girls name to go with Freddie.

[golden]

Looks like Freddie has his sheep in the outside world...lol.people say they hate Lisa but give the same reasons as Freddie..word for word!

[LipticBoven]

How has freddie bullied any1?

Freddie may not like some housemates but u would never be able to tell as he is still very nice to every1, i can't say the same thing about lisa and karly.

Lisa and karly formed a group very ealier on, which has now after 6 weeks forced the rest of the housemates into a group aswell.

[alan1965]

this guy half-wit.dont like lesbians gays guys or girls by the sound of it

[geisha]

Rodrigo has just said nominating Lisa that she is always talking about other group's bad things.

Freddie? He has opinion but that is not the same things with Lisa. No way similar !

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by CaPPa
Halfwit has respect for other people, Lisa doesn't.
Halfwit will listen to other people's opinions, Lisa wont if they are not the same as her opinion.
Halfwit helps others in times of conflict or stress, Lisa stirs the conflict and stress.
Halfwit has a brain, Lisa doesn't.

They are not alike at all.

Amen.

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by golden

Freddie's been bitching about Lisa for weeks saying she's turning everyone against him..Does everyone with a brain suffer from Paranoia...wait I can answer that...No!

well well well...if it isn't golden

[golden]

Originally posted by charliegimbert

well well well...if it isn't golden

Charlie my old friend

[a_2009]

Originally posted by CaPPa
Halfwit has respect for other people, Lisa doesn't.
Halfwit will listen to other people's opinions, Lisa wont if they are not the same as her opinion.
Halfwit helps others in times of conflict or stress, Lisa stirs the conflict and stress.
Halfwit has a brain, Lisa doesn't.

They are not alike at all.

There's been plenty of times when halfwit doesn't listen or at least does what he wants e.g. the singing with carly and roderigo....he's selfish and wants things his way....like lisa.

In lisa's defense...from what i've seen a lot of the housemates used to go to her when they were upset and she'd sit and listen, give them a hug etc....she's a person of extremes....she's caring but when she's not happy she's completely irrational...goes off on one without thinking of what she wants to get out of it and speaks without thinking....i.e. attack is the best form of defence.

[aoq2008]

Originally posted by golden
Everything Lisa is accused of doing, Freddie is doing the same:
having arguments
bitching
trying to persuade hms to like/dislike others
standing up for themselves
defending others

If Lisa is indeed a bully then so is Freddie.
I have no doubt most of you agree!

I agree some people just have a weird blind adoration for Freddie. Are not actually seeing he is just the same.

[golden]

Originally posted by a_2009

There's been plenty of times when halfwit doesn't listen or at least does what he wants e.g. the singing with carly and roderigo....he's selfish and wants things his way....like lisa.

In lisa's defense...from what i've seen a lot of the housemates used to go to her when they were upset and she'd sit and listen, give them a hug etc....she's a person of extremes....she's caring but when she's not happy she's completely irrational...goes off on one without thinking of what she wants to get out of it and speaks without thinking....i.e. attack is the best form of defence.

Amen to that!

[CaPPa]

Originally posted by goldenFreddie's been bitching about Lisa for weeks saying she's turning everyone against him..Does everyone with a brain suffer from Paranoia...wait I can answer that...No!

Halfwit has been telling people that Lisa has been manipulating the housemates. He also told Lisa that to her face, unlike Lisa's crew who only would talk behind people's backs. Halfwit only stated what he saw happening - after it had happened to him.

Lisa had decided from day one that she didn't like Halfwit and wasn't interested in anything he had to say. Halfwit has never once made a distinction such as that about a fellow housemate, he even continually tried to offer olive branches to the vile Kris and he still continues to try with Lisa.

To be honest, if people cannot distinguish between the actions of a nice guy like Halfwit and a witch like Lisa then they probably do not have a very strong sense of right and wrong.

[alan1965]

big time game players without a dout.how come he noms lisa every week.game player.plays the diary room.this guy should off starred in the film,the crying game.

[a_2009]

Originally posted by CaPPa

Halfwit has been telling people that Lisa has been manipulating the housemates. He also told Lisa that to her face, unlike Lisa's crew who only would talk behind people's backs. Halfwit only stated what he saw happening - after it had happened to him.

Lisa had decided from day one that she didn't like Halfwit and wasn't interested in anything he had to say. Halfwit has never once made a distinction such as that about a fellow housemate, he even continually tried to offer olive branches to the vile Kris and he still continues to try with Lisa.

To be honest, if people cannot distinguish between the actions of a nice guy like Halfwit and a witch like Lisa then they probably do not have a very strong sense of right and wrong.

I think Lisa has been pretty blunt in letting the housemates know what she thinks of them. I think it's fair to say freddy is a character you either like or dislike....that's life...she was pretty agressive towards the fella from a bout 4/5 days in. I think Freddie can have a patronising manner to him and Lisa is hardly one for airs and graces....she can't articulate her feelings very well so it comes out as angry outbursts, where as Fred has a much calmer personality which will infuriate lisa even more as he doesn't rise to the petty insults in the heat of the moment.

However i do remember Freddie saying he was going to wind lisa up to show he true colours a couple of weeks back....it's hardly a mature take on things to provoke someone to make them angry....to preach he believes in love, peace and harmony and then provoke a negative reaction from the likes of lisa......hmmmmm!!!

[MargeryFan]

Oh come on people. They are completely different. The difference is Freddie isn't penalising lisa for the sake of it. He was in defence mode because Lisa was in fact doing those things and he wasn't bitching because he told everyone to their faces. Lisa is caniving and a great example of this is how she has disowned Noirin and now is gunning for her.

[Linto99]

Lisa is a very dangerous type of person. Halfwit is nothing like her. Cannot understand why anyone would think they were alike??

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by MargeryFan
Oh come on people. They are completely different. The difference is Freddie isn't penalising lisa for the sake of it. He was in defence mode because Lisa was in fact doing those things and he wasn't bitching because he told everyone to their faces. Lisa is caniving and a great example of this is how she has disowned Noirin and now is gunning for her.

Originally posted by Linto99
Lisa is a very dangerous type of person. Halfwit is nothing like her. Cannot understand why anyone would think they were alike??

Well said.

[goongoondown]

Here is a conundrum to burst the bubble of this freddie like lisa b@ll&cks, if lisa went up for eviction would she survive one? (let alone 5), NO. Simply because we see in lisa a clearly negative person that thrives on praying on other people's angst and hang-ups dispensing wise words from a chapter of lisa's wise cr@p a book on 'How to ingratiate oneself and become indispensible at all costs'. I like freddie not because he is weird or quirky but because he is a nice and forgiving guy, dont forget how we all hated kris for the way he kept taking the piss out of freddie and yet freddie himself actually liked kris. Freddie like people, lisa likes herself. It is an insult to your own intelligence to compare the two.

[golden]

Originally posted by Linto99
Lisa is a very dangerous type of person. Halfwit is nothing like her. Cannot understand why anyone would think they were alike??

LOL Dangerous!!! What's she gonna do? Steal your cigarettes?!!
One of the ways they're not alike is Lisa wouldn't go begging other hms for sex!!