[reallynow]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Siavash hasnt got the girl. If Tom had not walked Norin had announced to Sophie that she was going to tell them all they had not chance and try and get off with Tom. Noirn once again being controlled by her ego.

What fascinates me is that she can see that her actions will not be popular with the public but that doesnt seem to stop her

if and buts, if only i was a millionaire, I am not so it is pretty irrelevant and obsessive to concentrate on them!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by setanta

It's not made up at all. How many times did she nominate Sree while he was in the house?..... once.

How many times has she nominated smelly breath Marcus?..... never

She's using them to gain support and sympathy. So easy to play with morons like them. And this whole Siavash thing is a joke.... has no feelings for the fella. She was about to blow him off for Tom, but Tom had other ideas.

Totally true and something that needs to be reinforced. If Norins little plan had come together then Siavash was also in line for a 'it's not you, it's me' conversation.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by reallynow

if and buts, if only i was a millionaire, I am not so it is pretty irrelevant and obsessive to concentrate on them!

Only one if and a very important one too. If I'm wrong then tell me I'm wrong and that Norin did not say she was going to blow then all out for Tom, but she did say that didnt she?

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by GiRTh

If flirting meant nothing to her then why did she make a big deal about all the attention her flirting was getting her. Surely she'd have laughed it all off if it was no big deal. Secondly, kissing Siavash why did she make such a big deal about that? SHe could have laughed that off and put it down to the fact that they'd been drinking and things got out of hand but instead she really stuck it to Marcus by telling him in the way she did.

She's ice cold IMO. She's not like Sara from last year who was aflirty but innocent type. Noirin is rather calculating she asks for the attention then complains its too much when she gets the attention. She's conflicted on one hand but cold and calculating on the other.

surely had noirin taken the situation with marcus lightly that would have been seen as truly calculating since she knows of marcus's feelings for her and since they did share a bond of sorts,noirin simply told marcus after bea and sophie had advised her to do so..

[setanta]

Girth, watch her vt..... the new one.... all there as plain as day.

[reallynow]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Totally true and something that needs to be reinforced. If Norins little plan had come together then Siavash was also in line for a 'it's not you, it's me' conversation.

Why would you have any feelings for a man you just do not fancy?
On Siavash, they look cute together.
I do not know why we are still obsession about Noirin for, i just do not know why, I feel her time on the show has come to the end, yet many still want to tear her down!

So of you lot seem to have some serious sociopathic issues, its STRANGE!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
surely had noirin taken the situation with marcus lightly that would have been seen as truly calculating since she knows of marcus's feelings for her and since they did share a bond of sorts,noirin simply told marcus after bea and sophie had advised her to do so..

So you're saying she had no choice but to use Marcus to distance herself from Sree and in the process make him believe he had a chance?

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Only one if and a very important one too. If I'm wrong then tell me I'm wrong and that Norin did not say she was going to blow then all out for Tom, but she did say that didnt she?

no she didnt?she admitted to her feelings for tom,but also admited to her feelings for siavash just as strongly,for diffrent reasons.. never has noirin stated she would drop siavash for tom,unless your refering to when noirin said "on the outsite world,i would be with tom and not noirin" which i took to mean she would naturally just got for some one like tom,yet having lived in the house and getting to know siavash this is the only place they could have bonded.. much like noirin would never meet someone like marcus and be forced to speak to such a creep day in day out..

[reallynow]

Originally posted by GiRTh

So you're saying she had no choice but to use Marcus to distance herself from Sree and in the process make him believe he had a chance?

What is with the obsession, she never had sex with any of them, so just what is the obsession? Get over Noirin already!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by reallynow

Why would you have any feelings for a man you just do not fancy?
On Siavash, they look cute together.
I do not know why we are still obsession about Noirin for, i just do not know why, I feel her time on the show has come to the end, yet many still want to tear her down!

So of you lot seem to have some serious sociopathic issues, its STRANGE!

Sociopath? Simply cuz I could see Noirins plan from day one? You're going to have to explain.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by reallynow

What is with the obsession, she never had sex with any of them, so just what is the obsession? Get over Noirin already!

She'll probably be nominated this week and depending on who she's again maybe she's out too. I'm over her, trust me, but I just like to point out that I saw this in her right from the beginning.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by GiRTh

So you're saying she had no choice but to use Marcus to distance herself from Sree and in the process make him believe he had a chance?

not at all brother,surely if i was a girl and i told you we can only be friends and nothing more,and to stop complimenting me and yes i admit i may be a bit of a flirt but i dont want to be with you.. and you then say you know theres 99% chance nothing will happen you just dont have anything better to do then chase around a pretty girl.. then how is that noirins fault?

marcus was the one goading sree,noirin simply saw it as harmless fun as marcus hadnt made his intentions for noirin clear at that point..

i see what your saying though,seems a little odd but noirin hasnt really done much to warrant some of the spiteful things said about her..

[setanta]

Originally posted by GiRTh

She'll probably be nominated this week and depending on who she's again maybe she's out too. I'm over her, trust me, but I just like to point out that I saw this in her right from the beginning.

Snap.... from the moment she started on about the glasses and smiled as Lisa and Marcus fought over it, I knew this girl was trouble.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by tintedshadowno she didnt?she admitted to her feelings for tom,but also admited to her feelings for siavash just as strongly,for diffrent reasons.. never has noirin stated she would drop siavash for tom,unless your refering to when noirin said "on the outsite world,i would be with tom and not noirin" which i took to mean she would naturally just got for some one like tom,yet having lived in the house and getting to know siavash this is the only place they could have bonded.. much like noirin would never meet someone like marcus and be forced to speak to such a creep day in day out..

I'm going to watch it again but before that I'm absolutely certain she said something like - 'I'm going to sit them both down tomorrow and tell then we're friend and I dont fancy them and that I fancy Tom' Something like that anyway and this was just after she'd said she's like to fcuk Tom everyday and that Tom was her type and what she was used to.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by setanta
Girth, watch her vt..... the new one.... all there as plain as day.

I just watched the vt and am shocked and disgusted. What an awful woman!

For anyone who hasn't seen it:

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...c91a02/play.c4

How can this woman have any fans?

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by reallynow

What is with the obsession, she never had sex with any of them, so just what is the obsession? Get over Noirin already!

forgive me as this is not my place to say so,but while girth may disagree with us i dont think it is at all fair to chastise him for having a diffrent view point..it makes for great discussions and i truly do enjoy seeing things from a diffrent perspective as i may have missed something myself..i see why this may frustrate you but can we try and keep things civil before the thread gets locked lol

[Cybele]

You know, people shouldn't call Noirin a slut or a slag or a ***** or anything like that. She isn't one of them. I've known some gals in my life who were sluts and they were sweet. Yes, they slept with a lot of guys, but they didn't try to destroy anyone.

Noirin on the other hand, is 100% into head games. She gets her self image from how she is viewed by others. She even said that herself back when she had to draw on the glasses. She doesn't feel attractive unless she has at least 1 guy wanting to screw her. Sorry, but that is the truth. She has openly stated on several occasions that she uses her sexuality and looks to get what she wants. She has proudly boasted about it so this is not an insult. This is what she has been doing in the house: manipulating men to receive what she needs whether it be attention, a shoulder to cry upon, a friend when others are shunning her, cuddles, etc.

So, in other words, it would be an insult to sluts everywhere to use that word on Noirin. She is a manipulating cocktease... NOT a slut.

[setanta]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I'm going to watch it again but before that I'm absolutely certain she said something like - 'I'm going to sit them both down tomorrow and tell then we're friend and I dont fancy them and that I fancy Tom' Something like that anyway and this was just after she'd said she's like to fcuk Tom everyday and that Tom was her type and what she was used to.

Course she did, and then Bea was insisting on her to forget about Tom.... you have to forget about Tom. And she couldn't. She was dismissive of Siavash all that night and playing with her hair and giving Tom all the looks she could. Maddening

[PaulyJ]

At moments like this i like to concentrate on the fact's

Noirin has been chased by 3 men.
Marcus accepted early on that he knew he had no chance with her
Marcus continued his persute
Noirin kissed Siavash whilst she knew she fancied Tom
Marcus has stopped talking to Noirin and Siavash because he feels betrayed


Judged purely on the facts Noirin is being treated by some very harshly, and it is opinion and interpretation which brings the harshness not fact.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by tintedshadow

not at all brother,surely if i was a girl and i told you we can only be friends and nothing more,and to stop complimenting me and yes i admit i may be a bit of a flirt but i dont want to be with you.. and you then say you know theres 99% chance nothing will happen you just dont have anything better to do then chase around a pretty girl.. then how is that noirins fault?

marcus was the one goading sree,noirin simply saw it as harmless fun as marcus hadnt made his intentions for noirin clear at that point..

i see what your saying though,seems a little odd but noirin hasnt really done much to warrant some of the spiteful things said about her..

All you say is true but Noirin used to hang out with Marcus when she should really have been hanging out with the other girls. She like the attention of men and she even said so in her audition VT. I',m sure Noirin has been in this situation before yet she doesnt seem to have a clue on how to avoid this kind of situation

[reallynow]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Sociopath? Simply cuz I could see Noirins plan from day one? You're going to have to explain.

No it is just boring and somehow we are all archair psychologist who know everything FFS! boring!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by setanta
Girth, watch her vt..... the new one.... all there as plain as day.

Which one is that? Her audition VT?

[setanta]

Originally posted by Cybele
You know, people shouldn't call Noirin a slut or a slag or a ***** or anything like that. She isn't one of them. I've known some gals in my life who were sluts and they were sweet. Yes, they slept with a lot of guys, but they didn't try to destroy anyone.

Noirin on the other hand, is 100% into head games. She gets her self image from how she is viewed by others. She even said that herself back when she had to draw on the glasses. She doesn't feel attractive unless she has at least 1 guy wanting to screw her. Sorry, but that is the truth. She has openly stated on several occasions that she uses her sexuality and looks to get what she wants. She has proudly boasted about it so this is not an insult. This is what she has been doing in the house: manipulating men to receive what she needs whether it be attention, a shoulder to cry upon, a friend when others are shunning her, cuddles, etc.

So, in other words, it would be an insult to sluts everywhere to use that word on Noirin. She is a manipulating cocktease... NOT a slut.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I'm going to watch it again but before that I'm absolutely certain she said something like - 'I'm going to sit them both down tomorrow and tell then we're friend and I dont fancy them and that I fancy Tom' Something like that anyway and this was just after she'd said she's like to fcuk Tom everyday and that Tom was her type and what she was used to.

okay sure,is this the highlights show your refering to or a clip on the site?

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by setanta
Snap.... from the moment she started on about the glasses and smiled as Lisa and Marcus fought over it, I knew this girl was trouble.

Yep. We saw it back then.