[camertone]

halfwit's laugh was too fake, disgusting, creepy, patronizing, vile, and cringe worthy. disliking halfwit more and more each day!!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Marcjswp

Remy I don't know if you've been bullied or not mate but it makes you feel like sh*t. Freddie must have felt bad just being there knowing that they all didn't like him (4 evictions in a row). Its a surprise that he managed to stay optimistic throughout those weeks.

Shilpa's bullying only got caught out because it brought race into it, simple as.

I know what's bullying like, I'm not giving any details on my past life so I can understand. I agree on the fact Team Lisa behaved like dildos and terrible people towards him but calling it bullying ? Since the Shilpa incident, this word is thrown way too much from people who don't know what it really means. I know some of you do but not everyone does.

He survived 4 evictions in a row, but he never asked himself what was wrong about him so people dislike him that much. Then he realized something was wrong and since, he hasn't been nominated.

[NettoSuperstar!]

He didnt realize anything, they did!

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

I know I'm the one who brought it up but then you said it would have been different if she wasn't indian so I reacted.

Rodrigo's singing was also dreadful but he doesn't sing like that ALL the time. Viewers seem to forget that housemates live together 24/7, with no privacy and 0 space to get away when you need to. You can't expect people not to react or not have arguments.

Still though, the point is that they were practising for a singing task...obviously he would have to sing. I could understand her kicking off if he was just singing randomly, but the fact is they had to learn the song...

If he didnt, they would have all laid into him for losing the task. That wasnt my original point anyway, why did she feel the need to go and tell the group immediately after she argued with him, that she had 'just had her first row with asshole'? For the fecking pat on the back that they gave her, thats why.

And seeing as you have not said anything else about the shilpa/jade v freddie/kris, lisa, karly...I take it you have accepted that I have a point. Which many would agree with anyway. The treatment is NO different except that it does not involve racism. Simple.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Ghostface77
Capt. Remy leave it out.
Real bullying, bullying.
do you want to give us the scale you are using?
They guy broke down into tears ffs. wind your neck in

Why not leaving if it was that bad ?
We only get to see what the producers want us to see so it's too easy to judge on a 45 minutes episode and no live feed.
I'm not excusing Kris and Lisa's behaviour, because they are right dumbass, towards him but calling it bullying is pushing it too far.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Then he realized something was wrong and since, he hasn't been nominated.

The reason for this was nothing to do with freddie...it was because, somehow, god knows how, the housemates heard an 'awwww' when freddies name was read out.

I still dont udnerstand how it happened, but they spoke about it a few times on live feed.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

And seeing as you have not said anything else about the shilpa/jade v freddie/kris, lisa, karly...I take it you have accepted that I have a point. Which many would agree with anyway. The treatment is NO different except that it does not involve racism. Simple.

You have point on the 'Kris and Lisa being mean to him' but being mean doesn't necessarily implies bullying. See the difference ?

Like I said, once again, the Shilpa vs Jade incident was more than racism, Jade pushed really hard on her, like really hard. Shilpa cried more than once and for real bullying reasons. I give it to you, racism added the 'shocking' factor to it but Shilpa vs Jade and Lisa/Kris vs Freddie can't be compared, taking the racism bit apart.

[hennessy]

online dictionary
Bully: 1. a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people.


Lisa and cohorts no?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

You have point on the 'Kris and Lisa being mean to him' but being mean doesn't necessarily implies bullying. See the difference ?

Like I said, once again, the Shilpa vs Jade incident was more than racism, Jade pushed really hard on her, like really hard. Shilpa cried more than once and for real bullying reasons. I give it to you, racism added the 'shocking' factor to it but Shilpa vs Jade and Lisa/Kris vs Freddie can't be compared, taking the racism bit apart.

So...because shilpa cried more than once, this means she was bullied.

Because freddie only cried once...he wasnt.

yeah, totally get your logic there

[Twilight]

Captain.Remy i bet if Freddie had toldl Karly to shut up, you would be all like oh hes bullying her

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

So...because shilpa cried more than once, this means she was bullied.

Because freddie only cried once...he wasnt.

yeah, totally get your logic there

You don't get anything do you ? I just said Shilpa's bullying was way more intense than the so-called Freddie's treatment. That's it, nothing related to tears.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Twilight
Captain.Remy i bet if Freddie had toldl Karly to shut up, you would be all like oh hes bullying her

Nope. I explained earlier about the singing thing, if Karly annoyed him then he had the right to tell her to $hut up. Same treatment for Rodrigo. Fair and square for everyone, he has the same right as the others.

I put my point accross so I won't be bothering replyng unless there is a valid point from any of you.

[Twilight]

So big headed

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

You don't get anything do you ? I just said Shilpa's bullying was way more intense than the so-called Freddie's treatment. That's it, nothing related to tears.

I dont get anything? LOL

You put your point across shoite thats why.

Anyway, it was no more intense. Even if it was, just because something is slightly less harsh, does not mean it is not bullying.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Twilight
So big headed

Not really. I have nothing else to say on the matter as I said everything I thought about it so I won't waste more time if there is nothing else to debate about. Time to grow up sweetie.

[Twilight]

spot on Vicky

[muchadoaboutnothing]

In a way, by getting back at Lisa with his patronising hyena laugh he has lowered himself to Lisa's standard. Hardly mature for a guy who is supposed to be so astute. But of course he wanted to ensure that his Queen Bea could see that he can stand up for himself. I thought he was awful and completely lost his dignity. Freddie NOT to win (and I really was a fan).

[lucifer1968]

can't stand lisa or david

[Twilight]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Time to grow up sweetie.

You what? saying that make you look about 5 years old

[k1ck3m0n]

Originally posted by Ghostface77
Are we serious people?
Really?
Halfwit has been a decent person over the coarse of BB10 run, bullied for over half of that time and the ONE time he has the temerity to rile Lisa he is hated by so called former supporters.
To the people who unwavered in their support for Lisa, she is the epitome of spite.
She walked away (if she remained away she could of been called dignified) but came in with a face of thunder, spoiling for a bigger fight.
From what I recall it didn't get out of hand until she got into his grill swearing and pointing, if a woman does that to me I'm gonna laugh. What else can I do?
He shouldn't of followed them through to cont. but in a fight it's hard to think straight.
I Think this was the boiling point for HW.
All we got from Lisa was swearing and vows that this will never be over. David acted a lot better than his elder.

Halfwit has been losing his appeal recently.
He doesn't know what Bea's like only what she shows him.
I didn't forget that he was bullied to the point of crying and shunned by almost everyone for 5 weeks and I say I'm glad Lisa got bit on the bum.
GOOD ON HIM!
I didn't really care for Freddie until last night.
To all the Lisa lovers and Freddie haters...


rant over

Couldn't agree more. I thought Freddie was excellent last night, you could just see all the cack he'd had to deal with that first 5 weeks coming to the surface. Lisa showed herself up for the semi literate, ill controlled, ineloquent imbecile she is. I wasn't a massive fan of Freddie's before last night, but he's got another new fan here. Lisa out! David is gullible and a bit naive, but I think without her malignant presence he could be quite a fun housemate.
Last night was possibly my favourite HLs show of the series so far.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

I dont get anything? LOL

You put your point across shoite thats why.

Anyway, it was no more intense. Even if it was, just because something is slightly less harsh, does not mean it is not bullying.

Well, you seem not to get what I said. You tried to make me say something I didn't. You misread it but that's fine.

I agree, it's not because it was less harsh than it's not bullying, but still, what happened between him and the others was painful to watch but it's not bullying. I don't dislike him for having arguments with the others, but only because he knew how to play with it. I don't like people who always try to get sympathy from the others.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Twilight

You what? saying that make you look about 5 years old

But I'm still enough intelligent to make a full post with arguments and points to put accoss. Something you clearly cannot do.
I'm saying this for your own good but then I'm arguing with a 13 y-o little girl.
We don't agree on the Freddie thing but there was no need to start an argument. And then it comes from you...again.

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Well, you seem not to get what I said. You tried to make me say something I didn't. You misread it but that's fine.

I agree, it's not because it was less harsh than it's not bullying, but still, what happened between him and the others was painful to watch but it's not bullying. I don't dislike him for having arguments with the others, but only because he knew how to play with it. I don't like people who always try to get sympathy from the others.

Again you think he was going for the sympathy vote. if he was doing this, then by no reasoning would he tell the viewers this...or fight back. He would have just acted all upset etc. like sree did, and complained endlessly in the DR.

And I still do not get your reasons for saying this is not bullying but the shilpa incident was...it is exactly the same, minus the racism...

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : VickyJ

And I still do not get your reasons for saying this is not bullying but the shilpa incident was...it is exactly the same, minus the racism...

Re-watch CBB5 and you'll understand. Jade was more of a bully than Lisa will ever be. Lisa is a bitch, fair enough we agree on that, but Jade didn't even have to bitch to be horrible. But it's not about Jade. I was glad for once BB did something about it. The racism thing took it to a whole new level, I get that, but the basic bullying was real bullying.

[Twilight]

But bullying is exactly the same there not "real bullying" or"Fake bullying" any Bullying is bad, but just because you don't like who was being bullied it fine obv..