[aoq2008]

As far as I can tell all this Halfwit crap saying she has a gameplan is only his thoery, I may have miss something on the H/L but seems like Halwit's fans with there blind adoration believes eveything that rat says. He is the one who has constantly talked and schemed from what I have seen even Bea-itch said to him.

[rayheartbliss]

hes twisted

[offelia]

freddie and marcus as well.

[sarahBE]

Have you been watching the show?

[aoq2008]

Originally posted by sarahBE
Have you been watching the show?

I missed a little when I was on holiday. Have you actually seen her influencing votes. Tis week her so called gang all nominated different people and she has never been punished for anything like that.

[CaPPa]

Originally posted by aoq2008

I missed a little when I was on holiday. Have you actually seen her influencing votes. Tis week her so called gang all nominated different people and she has never been punished for anything like that.

She has no gang left really so she cannot influence the noms anymore.

Previously she would sit with her followers and bad mouth people before noms, then suprise suprise they would all nominate the people she was bad mouthing.

There was nothing really illegal about it as she didn't say "nominate this person" and her followers may not have even realised that they were being influenced but it made their noms easy because they'd have strength in numbers and would guarantee their own safety. Then Kris got himself evicted and their little world fell apart.

[Jezzy]

Don't get me wrong, I am no Lisa fan. But I don't like to see people judged on internet rumours, so here goes. Quoted and paraphrased from another forum because it sticks to facts :

" The public perception of Lisa is starting to bother me at this point as on other sites I keep seeing her being referred to as a 'dole scrounger' yet she has worked all her life except for the last four months whilst her last job was in Birmingham Dogs Home which I find admirable as I dislike dogs myself. She has no more bitched about other housemates than anyone-else whilst people forget that she has been incredibly supportive of those in distress throughout the series- even Marcus when he stopped talking.

She comes from one of the poorest areas of Birmingham (Kingstanding) and admits to having done poorly at school yet has held down supervisor jobs in factories.

Perhaps people wish that Lisa was more like Rodrigo- placid and asexual rather than open about her sexuality and sexual needs? There has been all kinds of harassment of women on BB this year but it has seemed acceptable whilst it appears Lisa saw through Noirin's gameplan early on."

I hope I don't kill your thread, it's a good one. They are all there to win by whatever means.

[kma]

Lisa is a bitter and ugly person (i am talking about her personality) - she pokes around the house like a crow and seems like a freeloader. The way she smokes her fags is like watching a prison inmate 'doing bird'. she feels like shes hard done by but is just a miserable old crow.

and she's really ugly (im talking about her pikey looks) as well.

[jet]

Originally posted by Jezzy
Don't get me wrong, I am no Lisa fan. But I don't like to see people judged on internet rumours, so here goes. Quoted and paraphrased from another forum because it sticks to facts :

" The public perception of Lisa is starting to bother me at this point as on other sites I keep seeing her being referred to as a 'dole scrounger' yet she has worked all her life except for the last four months whilst her last job was in Birmingham Dogs Home which I find admirable as I dislike dogs myself. She has no more bitched about other housemates than anyone-else whilst people forget that she has been incredibly supportive of those in distress throughout the series- even Marcus when he stopped talking.

She comes from one of the poorest areas of Birmingham (Kingstanding) and admits to having done poorly at school yet has held down supervisor jobs in factories.

Perhaps people wish that Lisa was more like Rodrigo- placid and asexual rather than open about her sexuality and sexual needs? There has been all kinds of harassment of women on BB this year but it has seemed acceptable whilst it appears Lisa saw through Noirin's gameplan early on."

I hope I don't kill your thread, it's a good one. They are all there to win by whatever means.

Thanks for that post. Lisa has been an easy target for obvious reasons. Other HM's bitch all the time, but when Lisa does it, it is time for capital punishment. She said she was hurt tonight, and I can see why. I've said from the start that she was a softie underneath - and so have her friends in the house. I don't believe that Lisa would pick on anyone in a calculating way - nor do I believe she has a gameplan. Rather, she reacts to being PICKED ON. There is a massive difference.
She stands up for herself in a louder way than some, granted, but Halfwit - who deems himself to have superior intelligence and social skills and who thinks he can break her, was the one who really lost the plot. With all of his controlled slyness and his mocking and taunting her, he hasn't succeeded yet.
Lisa has had quite a journey in the house. She's a stayer. Keep her in, please!

[=-Incognito-=]

Did you guys just not bother watching for the first five weeks or something?

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Did you guys just not bother watching for the first five weeks or something?

Selective memories...or they feel she did nothing wrong.

If it is the latter, I hope for their sake they do not treat people the same way as lisa treats people, believing that it is normal. They will be in for a shock when they try it with someone who doesnt stand for bullshit.

[sarahBE]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Did you guys just not bother watching for the first five weeks or something?

Exactly what i was thinking, Lisa knows what she is doing and people do not dislike her because she is on the dole, she has been very nasty to certain people and did not care how hurt freddie was when she and her gang used to pick on him. he was a broken man at times and a admire the fact that he stuck it out to be honest. Lisa gets just one mouthful from freddie and she hurt? Well tough hopefully she will watch the show and realise why we dont like her

[Jezzy]

but Halfwit - who deems himself to have superior intelligence and social skills and who thinks he can break her, was the one who really lost the plot. With all of his controlled slyness and his mocking and taunting her, he hasn't succeeded yet.
Lisa has had quite a journey in the house. She's a stayer. Keep her in, please!

Halfwit disgusted me in last night's highlights, tbh. He pushed her buttons in exactly the way my teenage son pushes mine....by patronising.

He had never been a real snob despite his wealth, or the public wouldn't have taken him to their hearts in the way they have. But last night was pure intellectual and social superiority, and it made Freddie go way, way down in my estimation.

I don't forget the first five weeks at all. I don't actually like Lisa, although it isn't for any vacuous catch-all allegation about her. But that was pure superiority on Freddie's part. Boo to him.

[rayheartbliss]

i completely understand the whole lisa thing for the first five weeks...
and yes shes been my least fave since..

but freddie took the low road.

so you guys just keep on bringing up the lisa thing so that we wont stop supporting freddie.

i was a massive fan of freddie and have never said ONE bad thing bout him, if theres any it was lisa who i kept on being negative about!

but freddie didnt rise above it all, but instead lowered himself.
i coudnt justify him

sorry.

[Jezzy]

rayheartbliss, i agree with you completely.

[ohflip]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...php?tid=135332

didnt watch first 5 weeks..just saw these...shes vile

[rayheartbliss]

Originally posted by Jezzy
But last night was pure intellectual and social superiority, and it made Freddie go way, way down in my estimation.

exatcly what i mean.

[Jezzy]

come on, this was an intelligent discussion. (not to you, rayheartbliss) :P

[sarahBE]

oh for god sake he is human hes been waiting weeks to say that to her the fact that he sounded so stubid is because he did not do it in a cold calculated way it just came out good on him i say

[Jezzy]

cmon. if he was honestly boiling over, he wouldn't have sat there so calmly. I'M human. If I boil over, I fly. Freddie wanted to make her look stupid, and he ended up making himself look purely nasty

Bea has actually brought out his snobbishness...damn that girl plays a good game.

[rayheartbliss]

Originally posted by Jezzy
come on, this was an intelligent discussion. (not to you, rayheartbliss) :P

ya kno, i find it hard sometimes to have an intelligent DISCCUSION here, cuz some cant make valid points instead just keeps calling others "you kn*b, d*ickhead etc.
i havnt had a proper disccusion with anyone here since last year
*seriously we need a seperate forum for the 13 year olds*

at least your here!

[Jezzy]

I;m glad you are too. As someone else said, I'm a BB fan. Who cares whether i would like that person IRL? It's a damn gameshow, and you have to admire the players.

[jet]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Did you guys just not bother watching for the first five weeks or something?

I seen all of it. I seen Halfwit being put on the sidelines by MOST of the housemates, and I seen Lisa being picked on as the scapegoat for all their actions. I seen her being angry and frustrated at Halfwit for singling her out, and I seen him talking behind her back, and giving his little DR lectures about the other HM's as if he was the oracle.
I seen him sizing up situations and using them to his best advantage. I seen him losing his way when Bea came in and showing his sleazy side. I seen him once again blaming Lisa for Bea's nomination and acting like a maniac let out from the nuthouse for a day with his unprovoked attack on the unsuspecting David and his mocking and taunting of Lisa.
Yep, I seen it all. I'm qualified to notice these things. It's what I do for a living.

[flyny]

Originally posted by kma
Lisa is a bitter and ugly person (i am talking about her personality) - she pokes around the house like a crow and seems like a freeloader. The way she smokes her fags is like watching a prison inmate 'doing bird'. she feels like shes hard done by but is just a miserable old crow.

and she's really ugly (im talking about her pikey looks) as well.

well said she is disgusting smoking stubs off the ground and constantly moaning about things ... revolting lesbian witch get a damn job!

[jet]

Originally posted by aoq2008
As far as I can tell all this Halfwit cr*p saying she has a gameplan is only his thoery, I may have miss something on the H/L but seems like Halwit's fans with there blind adoration believes eveything that rat says. He is the one who has constantly talked and schemed from what I have seen even Bea-itch said to him.

Yep!