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loomy · 13-08-2009, 02:47 PM

I'm not 'trolling' or particularly looking for an argument but I do think Bea has been victim of unfair judgments and very very over the top reactions to some of her actions.

Firstly; she did not give Freddie a panic attack he gave it to himself. She has not manipulated him or employed evil pyschological techniques on him in an attempt to 'break' him, Freddie is just weak. It didn't affect Marcus when she tried to employ her 'evil' powers on him, he just shook it off.

Secondly; when she first came in I do firmly believe she attached herself to Freddie because he was the favourite. Bea isn't stupid and I believe that it wouldn't be without real reason that she would pick an argument with him and seperate herself from him. I do think that Marcus and Freddie have been horrible to her and in some way victimised her. For example, when Freddie was laughing at her distress and came running out to confront her even though it was non of his business. Even Marcus saw that he was acting like a total tool and told him to go back to bed.

Thirdly; the hypocrisy of people is astounding. Freddie has a 'panic attack' and all of a sudden if you dare suggest it's attention seeking or that it was funny you're a vile person. Yet these same people are quick to judge Bea and say that her tears or distress if fake and that she's playing the victim. Marcus was saying exactly the same thing to Bea last night (i.e. you're really negative) that Bea said to Freddie to set him off on his 'panic attack' but Bea isn't allowed to be upset about it? Has anyone considered that she might genuinely be feeling the pressure and really not enjoying the way they are treating her. 3 weeks with Freddie would be enough to reduce me to tears as well.

Bea is not 'evil' or a 'sociopath'; maybe she's a bit of a bitch but I don't see her as being much worse than the other people in there. I have honestly not seen her act in a totally inappropriate manner all I have seen is massively over the top reactions of some people in the house. The only thing Bea is guilty of is having picked a fight with the forum favourites. And before you forget NO ONE in the house likes Freddie; maybe Freddie fans might like to consider that he's just not really a very nice or likeable person.

ange7 · 13-08-2009, 02:51 PM

great post

Niamh. · 13-08-2009, 02:52 PM

LOL, you're entitled to your opinion but I strongly disagree with you. Freddie isn't, wasn't and never will be my favorite and I think her behavior towards him was vile. As was her behaviour towards David & Noirin who are also not very popular HMs.

charliegimbert · 13-08-2009, 02:52 PM

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great post

dnt1234 · 13-08-2009, 02:53 PM

bored

Josy · 13-08-2009, 02:54 PM

I disagree, Bea is 2 faced and very argumentitive, she bitches about people behind their backs then the next minute shes their best mates, take nominations for example, she told Lisa "no im not nominating David" then off she goes straight into the diary room and....nominates David.

loomy · 13-08-2009, 02:54 PM

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bored

**** off and don't read then

ange7 · 13-08-2009, 02:56 PM

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great post

troll

Faded · 13-08-2009, 02:56 PM

All I saw was Marcus telling her some home truths she couldn't handle so she decides to throw her toys around.

It's fine for her to go around calling people negative and shred Freddie based on his behaviour and actions but when the same happens to her in a much nicer way I might add. She throws down the victim card.

loomy · 13-08-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by josycee
I disagree, Bea is 2 faced and very argumentitive, she bitches about people behind their backs then the next minute shes their best mates, take nominations for example, she told Lisa "no im not nominating David" then off she goes straight into the diary room and....nominates David.

That's just clever gameplaying tactics

After last week she must have known she was vulnerable to being nominated but by forming alliances even through lying she managed to avoid that and secure what is a good result for her.

ange7 · 13-08-2009, 02:56 PM

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bored

? ffs

bananarama · 13-08-2009, 02:57 PM

Bea is quite sadistic.......She kicks people when they are down. To say in front of fellow housemates while arguing with Freddie that he is not as intelligent as he thinks he is......Is a very humilating statement made with cruel intent.....To move her bed as far away as posible a humiliating kick in the teeth.....She knows how to turn the knife into someone that is quite sensitive.......Quite cold blooded and deliberate to achieve what ever her game plan is.......And pretend crys when she is verbally cornered.....

I personally cannot agree with the OP conclusions or should I say excuses regarding her attitude and behavour.....

Cannot see much to like as a person......(However it is a game show and one must reserve judgment).......But I love her as BB housemate for the drama she provokes......

loomy · 13-08-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by Faded
All I saw was Marcus telling her some home truths she couldn't handle so she decides to throw her toys around.

It's fine for her to go around calling people negative and shred Freddie based on his behaviour and actions but when the same happens to her in a much nicer way I might add. She throws down the victim card.

But she was just telling Freddie the truth!!! And everyone's on Freddie's side now. And might I add that it's not just Marcus; she's right when she says that Marcus and Halfwit have both been calling her negative, wearing her down etc. Even if sometimes it's a joke calling her a moaner etc. or wen Marcus said she pretends to be positive but everything she says is negative.

I agree that being called negative is hardly something to be upset about but it's the double standards that annoy me.

Freddie gets upset about something trivial = horrible, Bea is the devil.
Bea gets upset about the same thing = attention seeking

Benjamin · 13-08-2009, 02:59 PM

I agree. A good post.

For weeks people have been quick to jump on me if I dare say a bad comment about Freddie. Yet if I agree with a comment about a h/mate they hate, they love it.

We all have our opinions. My opinion is that Freddie isn't a good person, isn't a nice person and because he has lived on mummy and daddy's money, leads a very sheltered life which leaves him 'weak' in dealing with situations most people would shrug off.

Just by watching him you can tell that he lacks a lot of 'everyday' social skills. There is a reason he has been up for eviction so many times. Remember we only see what BB want us to see of him, living with him would be 100% different.

And I've lived with people like Freddie, and they can be very, very annoying.

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Regarding Bea. I also find her behaviour sometimes very unjust and unwarranted, and yes she can be a total bitch, but at the same time that does not excuse Freddie laughing at her when she is clearly feeling the pressure inside the house.

Josy · 13-08-2009, 03:00 PM

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I disagree, Bea is 2 faced and very argumentitive, she bitches about people behind their backs then the next minute shes their best mates, take nominations for example, she told Lisa "no im not nominating David" then off she goes straight into the diary room and....nominates David.

That's just clever gameplaying tactics

After last week she must have known she was vulnerable to being nominated but by forming alliances even through lying she managed to avoid that and secure what is a good result for her.

I dont its clever gameplaying at all, i think she is just a very miserable bitchy person, who thinks she can say whatever she likes to people but cant take it back, she trys to play the oh poor me im being picked on card but fails miserably.

Faded · 13-08-2009, 03:00 PM

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All I saw was Marcus telling her some home truths she couldn't handle so she decides to throw her toys around.

It's fine for her to go around calling people negative and shred Freddie based on his behaviour and actions but when the same happens to her in a much nicer way I might add. She throws down the victim card.

But she was just telling Freddie the truth!!! And everyone's on Freddie's side now. And might I add that it's not just Marcus; she's right when she says that Marcus and Halfwit have both been calling her negative, wearing her down etc. Even if sometimes it's a joke calling her a moaner etc. or wen Marcus said she pretends to be positive but everything she says is negative.

I agree that being called negative is hardly something to be upset about but it's the double standards that annoy me.

Freddie gets upset about something trivial = horrible, Bea is the devil.
Bea gets upset about the same thing = attention seeking

And what do you think Marcus was doing last night lol, telling her the truth and look how she reacted.

I think it's completely ridiculous how some people are actually buying into her whole I'm the victim act when she's been doing the exact same thing she's accusing other people of doing.

Niamh. · 13-08-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by bananarama
Bea is quite sadistic.......She kicks people when they are down. To say in front of fellow housemates while arguing with Freddie that he is not as intelligent as he thinks he is......Is a very humilating statement made with cruel intent.....To move her bed as far away as posible a humiliating kick in the teeth.....She knows how to turn the knife into someone that is quite sensitive.......Quite cold blooded and deliberate to achieve what ever her game plan is.......And pretend crys when she is verbally cornered.....

I personally cannot agree with the OP conclusions or should I say excuses regarding her attitude and behavour.....

Cannot see much to like as a person......(However it is a game show and one must reserve judgment).......But I love her as BB housemate for the drama she provokes......

Agreed except for the last line, I really don't find listening to someone whinge constantly entertaining!! And for the OP, Marcus didn't get as upset as Freddie because 1 - he's not as sensitive as Freddie and 2 - Freddie really liked Bea and thought there was a chance of them getting together at one point so of course he was going to take it alot harder!

dnt1234 · 13-08-2009, 03:01 PM

i'm still bored

rapunzal77 · 13-08-2009, 03:02 PM

I am no Freddie fan however I am sorry - Bea is indeed a horrible excuse for a human being and she takes enjoyment in hurting people

She really is lowest of the low

ange7 · 13-08-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by bananarama
Bea is quite sadistic.......She kicks people when they are down. To say in front of fellow housemates while arguing with Freddie that he is not as intelligent as he thinks he is......Is a very humilating statement made with cruel intent.....To move her bed as far away as posible a humiliating kick in the teeth.....She knows how to turn the knife into someone that is quite sensitive.......Quite cold blooded and deliberate to achieve what ever her game plan is.......And pretend crys when she is verbally cornered.....

I personally cannot agree with the OP conclusions or should I say excuses regarding her attitude and behavour.....

Cannot see much to like as a person......(However it is a game show and one must reserve judgment).......But I love her as BB housemate for the drama she provokes......

"To say in front of fellow housemates while arguing with Freddie that he is not as intelligent as he thinks he is......Is a very humilating statement"
but true. He has said he is their intellectual superior and they envy his intelligent. lol. Isn't that even more rude?

Josy · 13-08-2009, 03:02 PM

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i'm still bored

Well **** and be bored somewere else cos i for 1 am sick of your stupid big font!

loomy · 13-08-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by bananarama
Bea is quite sadistic.......She kicks people when they are down. To say in front of fellow housemates while arguing with Freddie that he is not as intelligent as he thinks he is......Is a very humilating statement made with cruel intent.....To move her bed as far away as posible a humiliating kick in the teeth.....She knows how to turn the knife into someone that is quite sensitive.......Quite cold blooded and deliberate to achieve what ever her game plan is.......And pretend crys when she is verbally cornered.....

I personally cannot agree with the OP conclusions or should I say excuses regarding her attitude and behavour.....

Cannot see much to like as a person......(However it is a game show and one must reserve judgment).......But I love her as BB housemate for the drama she provokes......

Agreed except for the last line, I really don't find listening to someone whinge constantly entertaining!! And for the OP, Marcus didn't get as upset as Freddie because 1 - he's not as sensitive as Freddie and 2 - Freddie really liked Bea and thought there was a chance of them getting together at one point so of course he was going to take it alot harder!

Thought there was a chance of them getting together?? Bea made it clear there wasn't so that's hardly her fault. They've known each other about 3 weeks!! It's not like he loves her.

And Bea got on well with Marcus so she's obviously upset at him turning on her

Niamh. · 13-08-2009, 03:05 PM

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i'm still bored

Cant understand why people hang around telling people not to talk about stuff just cos they don't want to. There's plenty of other topics to choose from you know!!

BBUK4LYFE · 13-08-2009, 03:05 PM

Sorry, but I'm not going to bother reading your essay.

It has been proven that Bea is a cunning manipulate woman that always tries to portray herself in the right, when shes clearly in the wrong. She talks behinds peoples back and always complains about the simplest of things. She is everything that a young lady should not be.