[davidalbert]

........as someone who has watched alot of Big Brother series 1 to 10 I often find myself watching with different 'hats'...sometimes as an observer of human behaviour.........
sometimes as a voyeur....

sometimes as a couch potato who just needs to be entertained.....

as someone informed by the CHRISTIAN ethic I think it is good to put on that 'hat' from time to time.....

BB is founded on the principal that we choose 'Who is the Greatest?'...i.e. best personality.........it sets up contestants as rival personalities.....

of course Christianity is founded on the principal that all humans are made in the image and likeness of God......to be brothers and sisters NOT rivals.......so we can see God in all BB10s contestants....hence my observation that Freddie 'looked like Christ' at times.....

Jesus ' 12 disciples would have made a GREAT set of Housemates...always arguing amongst themselves which of THEM would be the GREATEST in the Kingdom to come......
Jesus took a little child and set him in their midst and said 'whoever becomes like this littlle child will be great in the kingdom...the one who serves..not the one who lords it over others'..

Jesus also said : 'the first will be Last ..and the Last Will be First'.....so, judging by that standard...Benazir or Sophia are the real winners of BB10 te he

To say the first will be last etc..is Jesus way of saying that our way of judging people is usually the opposite of GODs way...we will find all our value judgements turned upside down in the Life of the Kingdom.....

in our celebrity Botox Plastic culture we judge by who is sexiest, prettiest, wealthiest, bitchiest..but Jesus turns all these values upside down.......

From a Christian point of view BB presents both fascinating scenarios but also complex problems......how can we say one of Gods children is BETTER than another?........

it IS still worthwhile as a social and cultural exercise as LONG AS we dont really think that those who WIN are objevtively BETTER than those who didnt WIN.

WIN etc is a concept that needs constant deconstruction.....those who think they are WINNERS in this life may discover with a shock they have NOT WON in Gods eyes or future life.

I note Lisa wears a belt saying JESUS LOVES YOU from time to time.........she hasnt been one of my personal favourite housemates but she is a child of God and MAYBE, just MAYBE, she will shock us all and WIN. (wearing that belt)
After all, in Gods kingdom...anyone..and everyone can make it!...be APPROVED.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Congrats on your faith. Who will God vote for and how will His vote count for more?

[bananarama]

Well. Religion and BB do have something in common .......Both turn out a load of false clap trap..........

[Zizz6]

[i]
I note Lisa wears a belt saying JESUS LOVES YOU from time to time.........she hasnt been one of my personal favourite housemates but she is a child of God and MAYBE, just MAYBE, she will shock us all and WIN. (wearing that belt)

That's all you need to get a good human being? I don't think so.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Originally posted by bananarama
Well. Religion and BB do have something in common .......Both turn out a load of false clap trap..........

/agnostic

[Prole]

Jesus supposedly surrounded himself with fallen women, tax collectors and various other 'undesirables'. Sounds familiar.

[Dr.Gonzo]

I think Jesus actually starred in the first reality show, as documented in The Good Book. Evictions were different then, involving wood and nails.

[PaulyJ]

Interesting Post,

God compares people's worth based on a non humanistic system, an idealistic system which no one NATURALLY adhere's to. It takes years of conditioning to reach a point where you can say i want the boring dull, ugly, uninteresting person to win. If it we're left to human nature, we would never see such a thing happen.

Man's duty on this earth is to overcome Nature, as Nature is what will kill him in the end.

[RCW1945]

False images should be banned on this board.

[Prole]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
Interesting Post,
Man's duty on this earth is to overcome Nature, as Nature is what will kill him in the end.

Or to respect nature and try to live in harmony with it.

[Dr.Gonzo]

God and science work as one!!

Science creates TV; God grows the contestants in His lab.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
Interesting Post,

God compares people's worth based on a non humanistic system, an idealistic system which no one NATURALLY adhere's to. It takes years of conditioning to reach a point where you can say i want the boring dull, ugly, uninteresting person to win. If it we're left to human nature, we would never see such a thing happen.

Man's duty on this earth is to overcome Nature, as Nature is what will kill him in the end.

Man's duty on this earth is surly to COMPLY with nature or nature will surly kill man.......Religions go completely against nature and support delusional practices and thinking. The unhealth side of nature........Hence the disgusting state of the world with it's conflicting religious delusions all competeing for dominence.......The result of going against nature is self destruction.....

[merv]

"I note Lisa wears a belt saying JESUS LOVES YOU from time to time.........she hasnt been one of my personal favourite housemates but she is a child of God and MAYBE, just MAYBE, she will shock us all and WIN"

Now me!? I am an out and out non believer.
But don't some parts of the Christian church frown upon Gay people.?
Me I don't care either way,and this is one of those subjects like politics that should be forum avoided maybe.

[baby-becca]

Tell jesus and his 12 diciples to VOTE BEA OUT

[Dr.Gonzo]

Originally posted by merv
"I note Lisa wears a belt saying JESUS LOVES YOU from time to time.........she hasnt been one of my personal favourite housemates but she is a child of God and MAYBE, just MAYBE, she will shock us all and WIN"

Now me!? I am an out and out non believer.
But don't some parts of the Christian church frown upon Gay people.?
Me I don't care either way,and this is one of those subjects like politics that should be forum avoided maybe.

'Frown upon Gay people'? LOL. I think it's slightly worse than that.

[saraholeila]

'the first will be Last ..and the Last Will be First'

Freddie was first in, and is now out. Siavash was last in and could win and come 'first'!
It's the 2nd coming I tells ya!

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by Prole

Or to respect nature and try to live in harmony with it.

Indeed nature will win either way but seems to kill slower when you are in harmony with it.

I would love to know the Christian view on David and Marcus.

[PooBay]

Rumour has it, Jesus used to 'dabble' from time to time.

[Prole]

Originally posted by bananarama
Man's duty on this earth is surly to COMPLY with nature or nature will surly kill man.......Religions go completely against nature and support delusional practices and thinking. The unhealth side of nature........Hence the disgusting state of the world with it's conflicting religious delusions all competeing for dominence.......The result of going against nature is self destruction.....

I agree to a point. Not all religions go against nature, mainly the patriarchal religions. It's these same religions that have not only killed more women than childbirth, but have been the cause of more war, famine and misery in the world than all the tsunamis and mudslides put together.

[King Gizzard]

I opened this expecting it to be Gavin. I was in for a pleasent surprise.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Terry Christian

[bananarama]

Originally posted by merv
"I note Lisa wears a belt saying JESUS LOVES YOU from time to time.........she hasnt been one of my personal favourite housemates but she is a child of God and MAYBE, just MAYBE, she will shock us all and WIN"

Now me!? I am an out and out non believer.
But don't some parts of the Christian church frown upon Gay people.?
Me I don't care either way,and this is one of those subjects like politics that should be forum avoided maybe.

No genuine debatable subject should be forum avoidable.....(That would be censorship. That would be evil)Debate is healthy and free speach and expression valuable to all in the long run. Even if some subjects do get minds interlocked.....

However I would agree this topic is not for the BB forum but the serious debate forums....

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Prole
Jesus supposedly surrounded himself with fallen women, tax collectors and various other 'undesirables'. Sounds familiar.

Yes, that was what the Pharisees said dismissively, so Jesus said that the well did not need a doctor but the sick. He had come to call the unrighteousness not the righteous.

The Pharisees rejected Jesus because they thought they were oh so perfect.

When you have time, look up the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax collector.

[Prole]

Originally posted by Sticks

Yes, that was what the Pharisees said dismissively, so Jesus said that the well did not need a doctor but the sick. He had come to call the unrighteousness not the righteous.

The Pharisees rejected Jesus because they thought they were oh so perfect.

When you have time, look up the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax collector.

I was being kind of light-hearted with that post.

I took the trouble to read the bible. I haven't not dismissed Christianity because I couldn't be bothered to find out what it meant to be a Christian, but because I did.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by bananarama

Man's duty on this earth is surly to COMPLY with nature or nature will surly kill man.......Religions go completely against nature and support delusional practices and thinking. The unhealth side of nature........Hence the disgusting state of the world with it's conflicting religious delusions all competeing for dominence.......The result of going against nature is self destruction.....

I know this may come over as sick but in a small way when I see forces of nature wrack havok on humanity I feel it is justified given how much we destroy nature.