[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well what happened and that. And the way they reacted to the minutes silence.

minutes silence to commemorate what?

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

there is no other side of the coin just the tired clutching at straws republican argument that no one ever pays any attention too.

check your local media for details. I have also not heard Celtic make your case, which is strange would you not think?

Again, we've discussed this already and I'm not even a Celtic fan.... I just like to see things from other perspectives rather than to indulge in rhetoric. You're just stating the same reactionary views all the time - I don't see you trying to understand where we're coming from here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

Again, none of us are defending them, you twit.

no, you were just playing apologist...

and its Mr Twit to you

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by setanta

Again, we've discussed this already and I'm not even a Celtic fan.... I just like to see things from other perspectives rather than to indulge in rhetoric. You're just stating the same reactionary views all the time - I don't see you trying to understand where we're coming from here.

so your not defending them?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

minutes silence to commemorate what?

You have to understand that there will always be tension. What they did was wrong, but people don't just forget the past.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no, you were just playing apologist...

and its Mr Twit to you

No, wrong. I was saying I can understand why people would not participate in remembrance day, but made it quiet clear I did not support the way they went about it.

If your going to base everything on assumption, at least be good at making assumptions.

Here's a hint : Your not.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

You have to understand that there will always be tension. What they did was wrong, but people don't just forget the past.

Should the Falkirk fans have been cross with Celtic because of the indigenous celts that came across and killed lots of Picts?

how far back will you go?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Should the Falkirk fans have been cross with Celtic because of the indigenous celts that came across and killed lots of Picts?

how far back will you go?

I can actually honest to god feel the hair on my head splitting.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so your not defending them?

Oh my God, do you read anything we type? Go back over it and realise that we're trying to discuss the whole incident rather than apportion blame.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Should the Falkirk fans have been cross with Celtic because of the indigenous celts that came across and killed lots of Picts?

how far back will you go?

Well when people alive today can remember what has happened in the past. So stop being silly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by setanta

Oh my God, do you read anything we type? Go back over it and realise that we're trying to discuss the whole incident rather than apportion blame.

Originally Posted by setanta
It's what the British army represents for Celtic football club and with Catholics/Irish in general


that sounds like the case for the defence.

and what does the British army represent for Celtic Football club?


I would imagine the same as it represents for Torquay or Manchester City

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well when people alive today can remember what has happened in the past. So stop being silly.

So you think it was just Irish born celtic fans who were chanting?

Surely it could not have been Scottish ones then?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So you think it was just Irish born celtic fans who were chanting?

Surely it could not have been Scottish ones then?

Well you are very aware of the Glasgow divide i'm sure.

[Lauren]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So you think it was just Irish born celtic fans who were chanting?

Surely it could not have been Scottish ones then?

Most Celtic fans are Scottish, henceforth BRITISH. They align themselves with Irish, for sure - but they're British. Of course there are some Irish fans, but the majority are Eastern Glaswegian. The club is British, and should honour that. Like I've stated, not all the fans were disrespectful, but as the silence went on a lot more fans joined in with the chanting.

Celtic Park have even banned UK flags in their stadium because it represents loyalists (fair enough, on old firm days, but what about other matches?).

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Well you are very aware of the Glasgow divide i'm sure.

Don't tell me Paulo Nutini has a centre parting now?

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Originally Posted by setanta
It's what the British army represents for Celtic football club and with Catholics/Irish in general


that sounds like the case for the defence.

and what does the British army represent for Celtic Football club?


I would imagine the same as it represents for Torquay or Manchester City

It's not a defence; it's trying to understand the reasoning behind their reaction. But you're incapable of listening to anything we say and instead you cut and paste small segments of our comments in an effort to pigeonhole us. Read my initial post and you'll see that I don't condone their behaviour but I can understand where it's coming from.

[Lauren]

Originally Posted by setanta

It's not a defence; it's trying to understand the reasoning behind their reaction. But you're incapable of listening to anything we say and instead you cut and paste small segments of our comments in an effort to pigeonhole us. Read my initial post and you'll see that I don't condone their behaviour but I can understand where it's coming from.

Yeah, despite my post, I can understand where it comes from. I honestly think that most of them would be ashamed of their behaviour if their workmates etc had seen that they'd sang over the silence though. A lot of men will have family members currently serving, too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Interesting to note that all around the North of Ireland yesterday the minutes silences were impeccably observed at football matches..

hang on dont the irish Catholics in those audiences have some axes to grind?

oh
dear

[Crimson Dynamo]

and Celtic's current main man is...



ex British Government defence secretary John Reid


you could not make it up

[setanta]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and Celtic's current main man is...



ex British Government defence secretary John Reid


you could not make it up

Well I don't know much about Celtic itself but placing someone like that in a high position within a club that's been long known for it's sectarian leanings could be looked on as a type of political coup, don't you think? I mean in terms of PR you can't go wrong having someone like that as your chairman.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Interesting to note that all around the North of Ireland yesterday the minutes silences were impeccably observed at football matches..

hang on dont the irish Catholics in those audiences have some axes to grind?

oh
dear

They do, but like I said, and like you keep ignoring, they found the Celtic method obviously a tad disrespectful.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

They do, but like I said, and like you keep ignoring, they found the Celtic method obviously a tad disrespectful.

so what point are making?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so what point are making?

That things are not as pathetically black and white as you see them. You seem to think people either partake in remembrance day OR don an SS uniform and parade Piccadilly square goosestepping.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

That things are not as pathetically black and white as you see them. You seem to think people either partake in remembrance day OR don an SS uniform and parade Piccadilly square goosestepping.

as i suspected


you did not have one

[Lauren]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

as i suspected


you did not have one

Stu's point is probably the most intelligent one in this thread.