[lily.]

I am.

[Stacey.]

no,,not really, because ...
well obvious reasons

[Chels]

I am.
They can't even give full and frank realistic reasons why "so and so" is a bully either.

[lily.]

I know Chels. It's a joke. Especially when they big-up how tough Alex is then claim he's being bullied. You can't have it all ways.

[InOne]

"Bully" and "Racist" have no meaning on this forum anymore. Just people spouting off who know nothing.

[lily.]

Racist is another one I hate.

If someone is genuinely being racist, then fair enough, but half the time they're not.


I'm waiting on the posts flooding in saying.. "it's all the vinnie fans who are in here".. lol

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

no,,not really, because ...
well obvious reasons

Shush.

[Captain.Remy]

Yeah they use it for no apparent reason and that's annoying. People don't know what it means anymore so let's all remind them what is a bully:

A person who is habitually cruel or overbearing, especially to smaller or weaker people.

From thefreedictionary.com

Is that clear to everyone now ? Stop using this word when someone is having an argument. It's pointless and meaningless.

[lily.]

Remy - the voice of reason..

[Athleticguy29]

yup i am sick of people calling vinnie it.

Vinnie is giving his 350K entry fee TO WAR HEROES!!!!!

All these troops that have fought for us in Iraq/Afghanistan and come home with blown off limbs and us and our government has turned our back on them ( shame on us) Vinnie is helping them....good man!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29

yup i am sick of people calling vinnie it.

Vinnie is giving his 350K entry fee TO WAR HEROES!!!!!

All these troops that have fought for us in Iraq/Afghanistan and come home with blown off limbs and us and our government has turned our back on them ( shame on us) Vinnie is helping them....good man!

Bit of a sweeping statement that the goverment has turned their back on them don't you think? lol

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Yeah they use it for no apparent reason and that's annoying. People don't know what it means anymore so let's all remind them what is a bully:



From thefreedictionary.com

Is that clear to everyone now ? Stop using this word when someone is having an argument. It's pointless and meaningless.

Bullying is repeated acts over time that involves a real or perceived imbalance of power with the more powerful child or group attacking those who are less powerful. (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Fact Sheet #FS-200127) Bullying can be verbal harassment, physical assault, or other more subtle methods of coercion such as manipulation. Bullying can be defined in many different ways. Although the UK currently has no legal definition of bullying,[2] some US states have laws against it. Bullying is usually done to coerce others by fear or threat.[3] Bullying can be prevented when children are taught social skills to successfully interact with people. This will help them to be productive adults when interacting with bothersome people.[4]

Bullying in school and the workplace is also referred to as peer abuse. Public intellectual Robert W. Fuller has analyzed bullying in the context of rankism.

In colloquial speech, bullying often describes a form of harassment perpetrated by an abuser who possesses more physical and/or social power and dominance than the victim. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target. The harassment can be verbal, physical and/or emotional. Sometimes bullies will pick on people bigger or smaller than their size. Bullies hurt people verbally and physically. There are many reasons for that. One of them is because the bullies themselves are or have been the victim of bullying[5][6][7] (e.g. a bullying child who is abused at home, or bullying adults who are abused by their colleagues).

Many programs have been started to prevent bullying at schools with promotional speakers. Bullying consists of three types - verbal, physical and emotional.

Norwegian researcher Dan Olweus defines bullying as when a person is "exposed, repeatedly and over time, to negative actions on the part of one or more other persons." He defines negative action as "when a person intentionally inflicts injury or discomfort upon another person, through physical contact, through words or in other ways."[8] See also a reference to the Olweus Bullying Prevention Program at Clemson University: http://www.clemson.edu/olweus/ .

Bullying can occur in any setting where human beings interact with each other. This includes school, church, the workplace, home and neighborhoods. It is even a common push factor in migration. Bullying can exist between social groups, social classes and even between countries (see Jingoism).

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Shush.

Sorry, just my opinion

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29

Vinnie is giving his 350K entry fee TO WAR HEROES!!!!!

I didn't know that.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Bullying is repeated acts over time that involves a real or perceived imbalance of power with the more powerful child or group attacking those who are less powerful. (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Fact Sheet #FS-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bully_(bullying)

Pretty much the same thing.

[BB_Eye]

I don't see what isn't "full and frank" about Vinnie's history of barely provoked violence towards people weaker than himself. I haven't made up my mind about his relationship with Katia and Alex (neither of whom I'm a fan of), but I agree with some of the comments saying that he is throwing his weight around a bit.

Also the whole thing about him donating to charity. Um... so what? Piers Morgan, a well known bully, is always donating to charities and appearing at events. If you look at the bullyonline website, it states that most of the calls the UK Workplace Bullying Helpline were from people working the voluntary sector. The reasons are pretty simple. Narcissists are attracted to charities because they present them with an opportunity to portray themselves as the wonderful, caring people that they wish they were.

[lily.]

Ok, we aren't actually referring to Vinnie's "history". We were referring to his behaviour in the BB house and how the word Bully gets banjoed around too much..

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by lili

Ok, we aren't actually referring to Vinnie's "history". We were referring to his behaviour in the BB house and how the word Bully gets banjoed around too much..

Hold on, how is Vinnie a bully ? He has hardly have had any screen time in a week ? And every time we saw him, was him cooking or cleaning the kitchen. That's just bollocks.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by lili

Ok, we aren't actually referring to Vinnie's "history". We were referring to his behaviour in the BB house and how the word Bully gets banjoed around too much..

Could be winding him up for all I know. Maybe the lack of drama in the house is amplifying some of the more contentious things Vinnie has said to some people. I'm not gonna say that anything he has done is on the same level as Jade, Grace, Dennis, Rex, etc... yet.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29

yup i am sick of people calling vinnie it.

Vinnie is giving his 350K entry fee TO WAR HEROES!!!!!

All these troops that have fought for us in Iraq/Afghanistan and come home with blown off limbs and us and our government has turned our back on them ( shame on us) Vinnie is helping them....good man!

He said a percentage - that could be anything - might be 10 quid! He isn't giving the lot! Don't exagerrate!

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

Could be winding him up for all I know. Maybe the lack of drama in the house is amplifying some of the more contentious things Vinnie has said to some people. I'm not gonna say that anything he has done is on the same level as Jade, Grace, Dennis, Rex, etc... yet.

Jade was the bully.
Grace was the Queen bitch but not a bully.
Dennis is just a low piece of ****. I didn't like Mohamed but spitting at someone's face is unbearable.
Rex was taking the piss for the sake of taking the piss and Michael knew how to give it back.

[lily.]

Are people this easily intimidated. Someone mentioned the playstation generation.. and I'm starting to think it's true.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Pretty much the same thing.

Sorry - but it isn't. Bullying is about psychological power, not physical size. Size can be an aspect of it!

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Sorry - but it isn't. Bullying is about psychological power, not physical size. Size can be an aspect of it!

You do understand English right ? By "smaller and weaker" everyone understood it's not about the physical aspect but the psychological one. A skinny midget can be a bully too. Nothing about looks.
Yes, there are people who are smaller and weaker in their mind so bigger and stronger people can take advantage of it. Do you get it ?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

You do understand English right ? By "smaller and weaker" everyone understood it's not about the physical aspect but the psychological one. A skinny midget can be a bully too. Nothing about looks.
Yes, there are people who are smaller and weaker in their mind so bigger and stronger people can take advantage of it. Do you get it ?

I get it - do you! edited You don't seem to understand that Vinnie is the one with the psychological power - in that situation with Alex. He does appear to be abusing it and throwing his weight around a bit. His constant digs at Alex have been uncomfortable at times. Many people have felt it and that is why so many believe it. That is bullying. Deny it all you like. And please don't excuse it as humour - we all know what a whitewash that can be!

edit It is a big subject - not black and white.