[Mystic Mock]

i do i dont care how but they didnt care when they were taking peoples lives so why should we care about theres is what i say

[Stacey.]

it depends on the situation I think.
but, really... yes, they have killed... but no, i dont agree with the death penalty.
they definitely deserve a second chance

[Enid]

Don't you think that mental health and motivation should play a factor?

[zelda]

Originally Posted by Enid

Don't you think that mental health and motivation should play a factor?

i agree with you mental health has to be checked

[InOne]

Good god, the idiocy of this forum cannot handle this debate!!!! Stop making stupid threads.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Enid

Don't you think that mental health and motivation should play a factor?

if they are scitzoprinic sorry if i spelt it wrong but yes i would let them off and health reasons yes but not if you dont have them reasons and if it was manslaughter i would give a few months and an accident murder is an accident but if you dont have any of them reasons death penalty

[BB_Eye]

California and Texas still carry out the death penalty and don't they have among the highest homicide rates in the developed world?

[bananarama]

A few years ago i would have said NO. However having lived through and seen such dramatic changes both in the vicious nature of murders and the how prolific murders now are I am forced into changing my mind.....

I no longer believe the argument that it would not be a deterent.......I think history proves that it was........Anyways deterent or not JUSTICE needs to be served for the victim and families.... My only fear is the reliability of the justice system and the possibility of innocent people being sentenced to death...

I think such a penalty should only take place with very very strong evidence......Not flimsy microscopic bits of DNA......

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by InOne

Good god, the idiocy of this forum cannot handle this debate!!!! Stop making stupid threads.

infact this is a serious debate and the hole point of forums is threads and talking on them

[Enid]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

if they are scitzoprinic sorry if i spelt it wrong but yes i would let them off and health reasons yes but not if you dont have them reasons and if it was manslaughter i would give a few months and an accident murder is an accident but if you dont have any of them reasons death penalty

What if you found out your 8 year old daughter had been raped by a paedophile, and you killed him? Should you still have the death penalty?

I'd say the murder was justifiable.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bananarama

A few years ago i would have said NO. However having lived through and seen such dramatic changes both in the vicious nature of murders and the how prolific murders now are I am forced into changing my mind.....

I no longer believe the argument that it would not be a deterent.......I think history proves that it was........Anyways deterent or not JUSTICE needs to be served for the victim and families.... My only fear is the reliability of the justice system and the possibility of innocent people being sentenced to death...

I think such a penalty should only take place with very very strong evidence......Not flimsy microscopic bits of DNA......

wait for evidence to come through first

[InOne]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

infact this is a serious debate and the hole point of forums is threads and talking on them

l-a-w-l

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Enid

What if you found out your 8 year old daughter had been raped by a paedophile, and you killed him? Should you still have the death penalty?

I'd say the murder was justifiable.

your going personal and if i was in that situation i dont think i would do it

[Enid]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

your going personal and if i was in that situation i dont think i would do it

Well this is a debate right?

Have to give examples and situations.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Enid

Well this is a debate right?

Have to give examples and situations.

yes i know it would be a good question for people

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

California and Texas still carry out the death penalty and don't they have among the highest homicide rates in the developed world?

I don't think you can compare one country to another country as they have different social values such as the right to own guns.....and other factors....

It's not just a question of deterent it's a question of JUSTICE being done to the victims........And to the tax payer who finances long jail terms.......We sentence the sick to death by refusing to finance expensive drugs to extend life yet give murderers a blank cheque to keep them alive in jail......Morality gone mad....

[Enid]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

yes i know it would be a good question for people

I'm asking you.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Enid

I'm asking you.

but i answered and said no

[Mystic Mock]

i also think that if the govement made the death penalty legal i think that revenge wouldnt happen as much because they wouldnt want to die

[zelda]

Originally Posted by Enid

I'm asking you.

if i can answer i think the person wouldnt deserve the death penalty due to what had happened to the daughter

[InOne]

Death Penatly is wrong, and satisfies the needs of animals.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by InOne

Death Penatly is wrong, and satisfies the needs of animals.

fair enough but i think the more we get rid of the better

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by Enid

What if you found out your 8 year old daughter had been raped by a paedophile, and you killed him? Should you still have the death penalty?

I'd say the murder was justifiable.

Valid points. Murder needs to be classified in a sensible way. Crimes of passion should not be regarded with the same as brutal cold blooded killing with no motive other than to commit a crime for gain or power over others......(Gang killings etc)

[InOne]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

fair enough but i think the more we get rid of the better

You are a primitive barbarian who wants blood

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Valid points. Murder needs to be classified in a sensible way. Crimes of passion should not be regarded with the same as brutal cold blooded killing with no motive other than to commit a crime for gain or power over others......(Gang killings etc)

i still think its cold blooded murder if you do it out of revenge if nothing happened to you