[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Im talking abour asylum seekers, most migrant workers from europe come here to work...and do work

How do these asylum seekers get here?

How many other safe European countries do they cross overland in order to arrive at our sanctuary and what do we provide that those other countries dont?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Im talking abour asylum seekers, most migrant workers from europe come here to work...and do work

from which countries?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Shasown

How do these asylum seekers get here?

How many other safe European countries do they cross overland in order to arrive at our sanctuary and what do we provide that those other countries dont?

Opportunity, theyre more welcome here not shunted off into camps District 9 style, some speak reasonable English, family ties...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Bollocks, thats the tory answer to everything, thin out middle management etc, it wouldnt answer any problems...and most local workers would rather sponge off the state than do the jobs most migrant workers do, theres very little evidence of people losing out on work because of migrant workers. What are you suggesting Shasown, asylum seekers come here to sponge off the state?

"and most local workers would rather sponge off the state than do the jobs most migrant workers do"

where does that sweeping statement come from?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

from which countries?

Africa, Burma, China etc

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"and most local workers would rather sponge off the state than do the jobs most migrant workers do"

where does that sweeping statement come from?

Well tis true a lot of the time...more true than your sweeping statements

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Africa, Burma, China etc

Yeah but how do they get here from Africa?

Overland through Spain and France.

Why not settle in Spain or France then?

From Burma, China etc? Overland though a shed load of other countries where they would be safe, maybe not as well provision but safe.

Open your eyes and see the wood in amongst the trees FFS.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Yeah but how do they get here from Africa?

Overland through Spain and France.

Why not settle in Spain or France then?

From Burma, China etc? Overland though a shed load of other countries where they would be safe, maybe not as well provision but safe.

Open your eyes and see the wood in amongst the trees FFS.

Actually most end up in camps (District 9 style) in neighbouring countries who then help them move on to various countries around the world, they do settle in France Spain Norway Netherlands all over, not just here

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Actually most end up in camps (District 9 style) in neighbouring countries who then help them move on to various countries around the world, they do settle in France Spain Norway Netherlands all over, not just here

So they end up in fictional camps in neighbouring countries, could you clarify where these camps and countries are?

You wouldnt by any chance mean camps like that at Sangatte near Calais would you?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Camps in Thailand on the border with Burma, various places in Africa...and yes sangate, not fictional at all and theyre often moved from place to place before settling anywhere

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Camps in Thailand on the border with Burma, various places in Africa...

Oh and then they get beamed to UK shores, without going through any other country. I see now thanks for the clarification.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Oh and then they get beamed to UK shores, without going through any other country. I see now thanks for the clarification.

Smart arse, they dont all come to the UK and they dont all come here to sponge off the state, most are more than willing to work.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Smart arse, they dont all come to the UK and they dont all come here to sponge off the state, most are more than willing to work.

Even so, yes they are willing to work here, but unwilling to settle and work in god knows how many safe countries en route from wherever to here.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Even so, yes they are willing to work here, but unwilling to settle and work in god knows how many safe countries en route from wherever to here.

Yeh plenty are willing to settle in various places all round the world, in fact Im sure most of them would rather stay where they were bloody born if they had the option

[Angus]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

haha...what to go on the dole and sponge of us?? or perhaps because they live in terrible places where they face mortal danger on a daily basis or they cant get work to feed their families!...you, me all of us would be doing exactly the same as them in their position, we were just born lucky! If you had more knowledge and understanding of immigrants/asylum seekers you wouldnt be saying these things, I guarantee...and theres never any mention of the overwhelming contribution to society, they do the jobs Brits wont get out of bed for, The NHS for one would collapse without them...not to mention the contribution to the arts, culture, music...

I have made no mention of anyone sponging off the state - I am genuinely curious why some refugees travel vast distances to reach the UK, bypassing other much nearer safe (some would even say safer) countries, and then proceed to insult us and slag us off because they don't like our culture, way of life etc. I would not emigrate to Saudi Arabia for instance, and then complain about the restrictions placed on me there because I'm a woman.

As regards the contribution made to the UK by the majority of immigrants and refugees, that is undeniable because most just want to work and make a better life for themselves and their families, and by doing so have made the effort to integrate. However I do not subscribe to your view that ALL immigrants and refugees contribute positively to UK society because that is blatantly untrue.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by angus58

I have made no mention of anyone sponging off the state - I am genuinely curious why some refugees travel vast distances to reach the UK, bypassing other much nearer safe (some would even say safer) countries, and then proceed to insult us and slag us off because they don't like our culture, way of life etc. I would not emigrate to Saudi Arabia for instance, and then complain about the restrictions placed on me there because I'm a woman.

As regards the contribution made to the UK by the majority of immigrants and refugees, that is undeniable because most just want to work and make a better life for themselves and their families, and by doing so have made the effort to integrate. However I do not subscribe to your view that ALL immigrants and refugees contribute positively to UK society because that is blatantly untrue.

No not all do obviously but the people your on about are a minority

[Angus]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

No not all do obviously but the people your on about are a minority

Yes, I agree, but unfortunately the minority who come here to scrounge or cause trouble seem to get disproportionate attention and headlines to the vast numbers who come to the UK with no other agenda than to work hard, contribute and make a good life for themselves.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by angus58

Yes, I agree, but unfortunately the minority who come here to scrounge or cause trouble seem to get disproportionate attention and headlines to the vast numbers who come to the UK with no other agenda than to work hard, contribute and make a good life for themselves.

Yer I know and it causes outrage and uneccesary tensions and innocent people get caught up in it

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"and most local workers would rather sponge off the state than do the jobs most migrant workers do"

where does that sweeping statement come from?

Indeed. If anyone said that about the immigrants...netto would be up in arms...but its ok to say it about the british...says it all really

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Indeed. If anyone said that about the immigrants...netto would be up in arms...but its ok to say it about the british...says it all really

Yeh cos the "British" arent a minority who will suffer the consequences of what I said

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yeh cos the "British" arent a minority who will suffer the consequences of what I said

They are only a minority because they choose to live in a different country - not complicated! Minority does not equate to victim - which is the very PC way you choose to look at it!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

They are only a minority because they choose to live in a different country - not complicated! Minority does not equate to victim - which is the very PC way you choose to look at it!

Agreed. 100%

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

They are only a minority because they choose to live in a different country - not complicated! Minority does not equate to victim - which is the very PC way you choose to look at it!

Oh ok ignore the history of racism lol...its not pc its just a fact, minority groups suffer the consequences of being stereotyped, majority groups dont...pc lol

[andyman]

Hey I'm sure the BNP if voted in would feed your lust for the Final Solution.

[InOne]

Why in any issue to do with race or immigrants are the BNP always brought up?