[Shasown]

Originally Posted by T.A.L.

If anything, the provo's, use of guerrilla tactics, is a testament to the British's military might. A running pitch battle wouldn't really last too long now would it.
Steve knew what he was getting into, he was a soilder, there was a war on, soilders get killed/blown up in wars

It wasn't a war. The British Armed Forces were used in support of the local powers, to prevent or deter terrorists from both sides of the nationalist divide from operating.

Whilst the nationalist side wanted it to be classed as a war for political purposes, the British Government refused to grant them this and treated them and the Loyalist terror organisations as criminals.

[kelswife]

huh??????

[LadyNay]

This argument is soooooo ridiculous! ..... Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

too right i get offended
they live across the damn ocean and still think they own us

What ocean would that be?

[willow2670]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Did anyone witness the conversation between her and john on live feed?

John asked if southern ireland was uk and she got very offended and was like "No i hate it when people say that, its not uk" I was actually quite offended and i dunno why.

I know theres alot of polotics and s h i t in ireland but i didnt think someone would feel that strongly about not wanting to be british and she got quite angry about it

I have a feeling she is gonna be hated

I didn't see the live feed but did watch how uncomfortable she looked standing for the English Anthem last Sunday.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by willow2670

I didn't see the live feed but did watch how uncomfortable she looked standing for the English Anthem last Sunday.

Well, she is in the UK...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by willow2670

I didn't see the live feed but did watch how uncomfortable she looked standing for the English Anthem last Sunday.

She didn't feel at all uncomfortable taking part in a British show? No one forced her arm.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Did anyone witness the conversation between her and john on live feed?

John asked if southern ireland was uk and she got very offended and was like "No i hate it when people say that, its not uk" I was actually quite offended and i dunno why.

I know theres alot of polotics and s h i t in ireland but i didnt think someone would feel that strongly about not wanting to be british and she got quite angry about it

I have a feeling she is gonna be hated

Ok its a dumb question but remember some people on here dont know what a continent is, JJ is an Aussie and judging by the level of his conversation I doubt if he paid much attention at school. Why get mad why not just answer his question and put him straight?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

too right i get offended
they live across the damn ocean and still think they own us

Some upper-class colonial remnants, and some control-freaks in the government , might?

But 'we' ordinary working class folk that 'work with' and consider to be 'good friends with' DO NOT!!

I dont like..where this thread is headed....History would back up the Irish claim of ....a domineering , heartless , empire-building britain!...That..took whatever it desired from any neighbour or weaker nation that it could find in order to expand it's power on the world stage!

There can be no excuses!!.....Only apologies!......But would that heal any hurt?......I dont think so!....But you have mine anyway!

And is this really the place for this wound to be debated?...I think not.

[brian3]

Can we not just drop this. It's a forum about big brother for gods sake

[spitfire]

I've been called Irish a few times.I hate it and quickly state that i'm British.

[jj43]

Does anyone agree with me that she reminds me of last years bb housemate Norin, another pricktease

[alc09]

Originally Posted by jj43

Does anyone agree with me that she reminds me of last years bb housemate Norin, another pricktease

Keeva is a much, much, much worse looking girl and not the slightest attractive, face like a slapped arse and all that.

But, yes, I agree with your point.

[Bigbrofan25]

Daniel I like your posts and I do tend to be on your side with stuff usually coz you are a cool guy
But On this topic you are a bit out of touch She had her reasons to be angry its a sensitive topic for ireland

The UK used to control the whole of ireland until The republic was given back but the UK still kept control of ulster Northen Ireland

This all began during the days of the reformation scottish and english protestants were sent over and planted in the north of ireland to prevent an Irish catholic rebellion towards the english

The British have caused the problems in ireland and the british are to blame for this

They just stole their country and planted people there that didn`t belong their and to make matters worse laters when britain took full control of ireland they treated native irish catholics like slaves in their own country starving them and working them to death and even evicting them from their own farms and houses

They brought in tough anti catholic laws that made native irish second class in their own land they were refused jobs refused good education and health care

So dude You gotta understand why The native irish feel so hostile towards the UK still the history is there things may be better now but that doesn`t change what the british did back then

Still to this day Ulster is owned by the UK still catholic families suffer violance at the hands of radical protestants in northen ireland

And before you call all native irish IRA terrorists they are not

The IRA movement was created as a fight back to free their country from british opression and gain equality for their country Nobody was taking them seriously for decades they were ignored by the british government and left so the last resort they turned to was violence to get their voices heard

I am british myself english Whilst I condemn some of the IRA`s past actions I do fully understand their cause and why they did it even though it made them no better for killing people than the british who made the irsh suffer for hundreds of years

I am ashamed of what my country did as a english guy I am not proud of it there is nothing to be proud of it would do some other brits good to finally accept their own past mistakes instead of feeling proud of such a bloody and evil past