[Mr XcX]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Please dont patronise me , because shes gobby IS a woman

Agree with you, but he is not exactly punching people. I do think he made her quit. Hope we can get rid of Ife and Nathan soon as I really feel he is ruining Corin's chances.

Off topic, what's going to happen with the robot??
And is Pamela Anderson going in the House??

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Please dont patronise me ,It people who applaud and think its funny and entertainment to see a male , i cannot call him a man because hes not one,treat a woman ,and just because shes gobby and a lesbian does not alter the fact she IS a woman ,yet you think its fine ?NO it is not and never can be ,and this is onre of the reasons it happens because there is always some wanker who will tell the male,she deserved it ,no woman for any reason deserves to be abused by a man ,hes nearly a foot taller than her and she is no match for him ,disgusting

I'm not patronising you at all... There is NO proof whatsoever that Nathan is or could be anything like the disgusting things you are making him out to be, especially calling him a potential rapist!!

All he did was tell the annoying agressive, mouthy little bitch to ******* off, which she deserved...

So you think it was ok for Scabby to shout & swear in peoples faces??

Double standards...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

he is a bully

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

Agree with you, but he is not exactly punching people. I do think he made her quit. Hope we can get rid of Ife and Nathan soon as I really feel he is ruining Corin's chances.

Off topic, what's going to happen with the robot??
And is Pamela Anderson going in the House??

Corin is as bad as him as is ife ,ife took him in the kitchen then Corin was asslicking him ,dont know what the robots about ,I cannot see Pamela Anderson will go in ,the papers said Brian Dowling was doing the task today but he didnt

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Please dont patronise me ,It people who applaud and think its funny and entertainment to see a male , i cannot call him a man because hes not one,treat a woman ,and just because shes gobby and a lesbian does not alter the fact she IS a woman ,yet you think its fine ?NO it is not and never can be ,and this is onre of the reasons it happens because there is always some wanker who will tell the male,she deserved it ,no woman for any reason deserves to be abused by a man ,hes nearly a foot taller than her and she is no match for him ,disgusting

Bit of an overreaction. How tall he is compared to her is not the point. Violence and tantrums are disgusting whether it's a man or a women doing the damage. Shabby did have this coming, and I didn't see Nathan even attempt to be remotely physical with her. Or maybe you think that, just because he's a man and just in case he gets violent, he shouldn't have said anything. Maybe you shouldn't judge all men on your own bad experience.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I'm not patronising you at all... There is NO proof whatsoever that Nathan is or could be anything like the disgusting things you are making him out to be, especially calling him a potential rapist!!

All he did was tell the annoying agressive, mouthy little bitch to ******* off, which she deserved...

So you think it was ok for Scabby to shout & swear in peoples faces??

Double standards...

Where did I call him a potential rapist ? and not once did scabby shout in anyones face, she shouted,she ranted ,she threw things ,but she did never,ever treat anyone in the way he did ,but you go on laughing about what he did , i hope your daughter never brings home someone like him

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Bit of an overreaction. How tall he is compared to her is not the point. Violence and tantrums are disgusting whether it's a man or a women doing the damage. Shabby did have this coming, and I didn't see Nathan even attempt to be remotely physical with her. Or maybe you think that, just because he's a man and just in case he gets violent, he shouldn't have said anything. Maybe you shouldn't judge all men on your own bad experience.

how sad

[Mr XcX]

Hope in a way Brian goes back in, but in a way will not really be the same. Liking Josie, Corin. Glad we will finally see the back of Nathan or JJ this week though. Does anyone else think Shabby hearing the crowd boo her and Ife (her dancing was CRINGE) and Nathan the reason she really left?

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

PLEASE do NOT tell me to shut up and make out I do not know what Im talking about because sadly I do ,my 3 children saw their father kick seven bells of $hite out of me night after night,they saw him rape me ,so DONT you dare tell me I do not know what a bullying wanker looks like bcause i do

^ Here. You were implying that Nathan was as bad as your ex...

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Where did I call him a potential rapist ? and not once did scabby shout in anyones face, she shouted,she ranted ,she threw things ,but she did never,ever treat anyone in the way he did ,but you go on laughing about what he did , i hope your daughter never brings home someone like him

Yes I will laugh at what he did, because I do not over react at things. Scabby was just as vile, but that's ok because she's a woman?! Does she also not have the potential to be a lesbian wife beater/rapist then?? ...

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

how sad

But true...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

how sad

How sad that your bad experience would lead you to think so.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I'm not patronising you at all... There is NO proof whatsoever that Nathan is or could be anything like the disgusting things you are making him out to be, especially calling him a potential rapist!!

All he did was tell the annoying agressive, mouthy little bitch to ******* off, which she deserved...

So you think it was ok for Scabby to shout & swear in peoples faces??

Double standards...

Nathan thinks he is 'the man' - but is just an inadequate, sorry excuse for masculinity - who has little self-control and has to shout and swear in an attempt to make himself heard!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

How sad that your bad experience would lead you to think so.

pathetic

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

pathetic

But you are letting your own experience cloud your judgement!

Just because Nathan raised his voice & shouted at a woman DOES NOT mean he is potentially a wife beater!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

pathetic

Right back at ya.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

But you are letting your own experience cloud your judgement!

Just because Nathan raised his voice & shouted at a woman DOES NOT mean he is potentially a wife beater!!

Would any woman be desperate enough to marry him! My heart goes out to her, whoever she is!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Right back at ya.

Make sure when you go out and you see someones wife with a black eye,you have enough cash in your pocket to buy her hubby a pint after youve patted him on the back and told him she must have deserved it

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Would any woman be desperate enough to marry him! My heart goes out to her, whoever she is!

Quite. I know he's hardly a catch...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Make sure when you go out and you see someones wife with a black eye,you have enough cash in your pocket to buy her hubby a pint after youve patted him on the back and told him she must have deserved it

Oh stop it. I would never associate with a psychopath who raised his hand to a woman, although I might ask her why she stayed one more moment with a man that beat her in front of her kids. Incidentally, I'm a female also... but I don't see every man who raises his voice as a wife-beater or potential rapist. I think you've blown this out of all proportion.

[Frank E]

Originally Posted by Mr XcX

Since when did Corin use Steve in an argument. I fear Corin hanging around with Ife is making people turn on her.

Not in an argument, but in the Diary room; "They moved Steve's mattress".

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh stop it. I would never associate with a psychopath who raised his hand to a woman, although I might ask her why she stayed one more moment with a man that beat her in front of her kids. Incidentally, I'm a female also... but I don't see every man who raises his voice as a wife-beater or potential rapist. I think you've blown this out of all proportion.

Women stay for different reasons ,and when you have children you do not always have anywhere to go ,money to go with ,they stay through sheer fear ,until you have lived that life I dont think you can scoff at it

[Amhuinn]

I'm sorry, but I had an abusive stepfather who terrorised me and my family in ways I won't go into and I would never, ever condone anyone doing that. I do think that Nathan can come across too aggressively and forget that it looks worse a man like him kicking off than when a wee lass does it. However, that does not mean he is an abusive wife-beater and to imply such is a step too far in my opinion. He lost his rag. My brothers have lost their rag with me in just the same manner and I don't think they are wife-beaters either.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Women stay for different reasons ,and when you have children you do not always have anywhere to go ,money to go with ,they stay through sheer fear ,until you have lived that life I dont think you can scoff at it

I am not scoffing at it. Look, I haven't spent my life under a rock you know. I've not been through this stuff myself, but I know people who have. A shamefully large number of women, actually. I just think your own bad experience leads to you to be a poor judge in this matter. What happened to you bears no resemblance to what happened between Nathan and Shabby.

[JustKaz]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Women stay for different reasons ,and when you have children you do not always have anywhere to go ,money to go with ,they stay through sheer fear ,until you have lived that life I dont think you can scoff at it

I can imagine that tonights highlights show had brought back some terrible moments for you and how the disussion has continued, I hear where your coming from, through my own experience, but not to the extent of how you discribe yours.

However it is a little unfair to possibly put Nathan in that catogory from one argument (as did some about JJ against Rachel)

Many HM have shown agression in there and Caoimhe foul language is no different to that of Nathans.

please dont take too many people opinionss to heart x

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I am not scoffing at it. Look, I haven't spent my life under a rock you know. I've not been through this stuff myself, but I know people who have. A shamefully large number of women, actually. I just think your own bad experience leads to you to be a poor judge in this matter. What happened to you bears no resemblance to what happened between Nathan and Shabby.

It starts somewhere ,and in my case this was how it DID start ,the shouting in the face,the verbal abuse ,but it doesnt end there if people applaud what you did ,if no one has the guts to tell them they are wrong they think its ok and its not and never will be

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