[mike888]

Originally Posted by calyman

Ben is sensitiively trying to explain where skippy has issues. But the eejit skippy is so thick, he doesn't realise how much Ben is trying to help him. All he can do is constantly repeat himself, interupt Ben, then when Ben does get a space to talk, tell Ben to let him finish.

He is the worst sort of person to have a discussion with, he refuses to engage in the most basic social rules of discussion. Ben should give it up as a bad job, he's wasting his time.

Nah let them carry on and let JJ get so frustrated he bursts into tears and tells BB he wants to leave again!!!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by mike888

Nah let them carry on and let JJ get so frustrated he bursts into tears and tells BB he wants to leave again!!!

hes getting closeben is a clever sod isn't he

[mike888]

Originally Posted by kazanne

hes getting closeben is a clever sod isn't he

If it was a boxing match the referee would have stepped in and stopped it by now...

[InOne]

Getting boring now, both going on and on.

[Violetfairy]

I am coming to the conclusion that JJ has to have an argument with someone, this with Ben was just another opportunity for him - I'm not saying that JJ is wrong in chastising Ben for his lack of team effort, but him going on and on and on and on and on at Ben is boring " Yawn, Yawn".

[Kore]

Originally Posted by kazanne

hes getting closeben is a clever sod isn't he

your wrong, JJ has already won this argument and has been outsmarted by JJ.

so dont make out ben has won at all

[mike888]

Originally Posted by Violetfairy

I am coming to the conclusion that JJ has to have an argument with someone, this with Ben was just another opportunity for him - I'm not saying that JJ is wrong in chastising Ben for his lack of team effort, but him going on and on and on and on and on at Ben is boring " Yawn, Yawn".

LOL Just when it looks like it's over JJ just won't let go will he??? Give him enough rope.........

[Locke.]

Our lord and our savior, the one, the only, Benjamin "The King" Duncan.

[chauncey]

Bens.

JJ's attempt at sounding calm and reasonable was quite amusing to watch though,Ben managed to walk JJ into nodding along that he needs to go to therapy

[Frank E]

JJ "didn't try" in his save and replace tasks either because he was too egotistical to be beaten by a woman or he was too much of a pussy to nominate publicly.

The pretty face will end up with a broken bottle in it some day if he continues the way he is going.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kore

your wrong, JJ has already won this argument and has been outsmarted by JJ.

so dont make out ben has won at all

because ben has won the argument.

[BlueViolet]

I voted for JJ, but really -- they both have some valid points.

I do agree with JJ's fundamental argument, which is that Ben should try harder and be less selfish. I just think his way of handling it is all wrong. Constant arguments are pointless.

Similarly, Ben needs to stop fretting about what JJ thinks, and being paranoid about how JJ is supposedly picking on him. While I know that JJ does give Ben a bit of a hard time, Ben also blows a lot of things out of proportion.

[paper-cut-exit]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Our lord and our savior, the one, the only, Benjamin "The King" Duncan.

Kinda starting to sound like a cross between tubby-jesus and a crazy mad stalker tbo lol

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by paper-cut-exit

Kinda starting to sound like a cross between tubby-jesus and a crazy mad stalker tbo lol

Put down your torch and join us in our quest of crowing Ben the ultimate King of Big Brother

[paper-cut-exit]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Put down your torch and join us in our quest of crowing Ben the ultimate King of Big Brother

The Dave approach huh

Ben's definitely in the final running - only thing is... he's a tad too lame in several areas to make it to the end. Close runner-up tho!

[-Sue-]

JJ's side...

[paper-cut-exit]

JJ's an insecure fool! No support from me!

[Angus]

He's jealous as ***** about the Ben day task - if he had more than one braincell he would see it for what it is, BB's sad attempt to teach Ben team spirit. All JJ had to do to make his point was to refuse to do the task, and Ben won't get his suitcase back - instead the little twat just presses the repeat button on his gob to try and provoke a reaction. What JJ does is not to engage in an argument where each other's views are aired and considered, he just launches into a verbal machine gun assault, bombarding his chosen victim with repetitious accusations and insults.

That is JJ's modus operandi, since he doesn't have the intelligence to actually ever argue a point coherently and calmly. He constantly interrupts and talks over people and hears only what he wants to hear.

JJ did it with Rachael and Corin - and he picks on Ben because Ben is non-confrontational and placid.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by angus58

He's jealous as ***** about the Ben day task - if he had more than one braincell he would see it for what it is, BB's sad attempt to teach Ben team spirit. All JJ had to do to make his point was to refuse to do the task, and Ben won't get his suitcase back - instead the little twat just presses the repeat button on his gob to try and provoke a reaction. What JJ does is not to engage in an argument where each other's views are aired and considered, he just launches into a verbal machine gun assault, bombarding his chosen victim with repetitious accusations and insults.

That is JJ's modus operandi, since he doesn't have the intelligence to actually ever argue a point coherently and calmly. He constantly interrupts and talks over people and hears only what he wants to hear.

JJ did it with Rachael and Corin - and he picks on Ben because Ben is non-confrontational and placid.

Please feel free to watch the vid on C4 website and see how many times Ben poes fun at JJ. Then I am sure you will have seen the same as the rest of us instead of making it up as you go

[-Sue-]

poor Ben always the victim.. wait let me get my violin.. I wont play him a tune But I can tell you where the bow should go muahahaha

[Julesuk]

Ben gets away with everything in that house, form what i've seen John was in the right, so fed up of listening to Bens.....you know I love you but then goes onto pull the person apart - Ben is in the house purely for publicity and to promote himself - he comes up smelling of roses - he gets a treat then the housemates have a task to win HIS suitcase back yet again on a friday night its about him, the same as the other friday with his standup highlighting Ben again on a Friday night, to be honest I am sick to death of him

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

Ben gets away with everything in that house, form what i've seen John was in the right, so fed up of listening to Bens.....you know I love you but then goes onto pull the person apart - Ben is in the house purely for publicity and to promote himself - he comes up smelling of roses - he gets a treat then the housemates have a task to win HIS suitcase back yet again on a friday night its about him, the same as the other friday with his standup highlighting Ben again on a Friday night, to be honest I am sick to death of him

Nicely put

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by Kore

your wrong, JJ has already won this argument and has been outsmarted by JJ.

so dont make out ben has won at all

JJ has not won the argument he has lost it. He is treading on old ground the argument has been done over and over again and is old and boring. JJ is only annoyed because he has to take part in winning Bens clthes back for him and is using the old argument as an excuse.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kore

your wrong, JJ has already won this argument and has been outsmarted by JJ.

so dont make out ben has won at all

You keep saying this but have not explained why you think he has WON in your words,please tell us afterall I have asked a few times now.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Julesuk

Ben gets away with everything in that house, form what i've seen John was in the right, so fed up of listening to Bens.....you know I love you but then goes onto pull the person apart - Ben is in the house purely for publicity and to promote himself - he comes up smelling of roses - he gets a treat then the housemates have a task to win HIS suitcase back yet again on a friday night its about him, the same as the other friday with his standup highlighting Ben again on a Friday night, to be honest I am sick to death of him

Who has Ben pulled APART?