[Ammi]

Just switched on LF and theres a heated discussion in the bedroom about Sam. Whats happened? Maybe he wont be in the house for long but it seems he's gonna leave a trail of carnage he he

[pixee]

Erm tbh he has said quite a lot lol.

He basically questioned Josie over her "romance" with JJ and said he couldn't work out if she herself was a genuine person.

I don't know if his "stinks of fish in here, is that you josie?" comment this morning has sparked more?

Josie is upset i think with JJ for saying he likes sam.

Anyone can add who has better info

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by pixee

Erm tbh he has said quite a lot lol.

He basically questioned Josie over her "romance" with JJ and said he couldn't work out if she herself was a genuine person.

I don't know if his "stinks of fish in here, is that you josie?" comment this morning has sparked more?

Josie is upset i think with JJ for saying he likes sam.

Anyone can add who has better info

So is this huge debate over John James defending Sam? Cos she should accept differences of opinions and just leave it rather than 'I'll go on and on and on and on and on until you agree with me, and you will in the end or I'll make your life hell'

[pixee]

Originally Posted by rhino

So is this huge debate over John James defending Sam? Cos she should accept differences of opinions and just leave it rather than 'I'll go on and on and on and on and on until you agree with me, and you will in the end or I'll make your life hell'

I'm not sure, i know she was unhappy with JJ this morning because he thinks sam is a nice guy or likes him. (incidently sam also said to her last night he likes JJ it is her he isn't sure about)

It seemed sorted last night, there was also a point at which they all sat in the garden facing sam but i'm not sure what was been said.

I think she can't let go of the fact he doesn't think she is genuine.

(just remembered he also said when she gets out she would sell her story but later stated he should have rephrased that cause he doesn't think it would be about money, she said it made her feel like a prossie)

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by pixee

I'm not sure, i know she was unhappy with JJ this morning because he thinks sam is a nice guy or likes him. (incidently sam also said to her last night he likes JJ it is her he isn't sure about)

It seemed sorted last night, there was also a point at which they all sat in the garden facing sam but i'm not sure what was been said.

I think she can't let go of the fact he doesn't think she is genuine.

(just remembered he also said when she gets out she would sell her story but later stated he should have rephrased that cause he doesn't think it would be about money, she said it made her feel like a prossie)

Thanks for the update lol - jeeez she doesnt let things go an move on easily - comes a point in a small environment when you just gotta draw a line and move forward

[pixee]

Originally Posted by rhino

Thanks for the update lol - jeeez she doesnt let things go an move on easily - comes a point in a small environment when you just gotta draw a line and move forward

She did put that awful tasting nail varnish stuff on his toothbrush..lol she did kind of start it

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by rhino

So is this huge debate over John James defending Sam? Cos she should accept differences of opinions and just leave it rather than 'I'll go on and on and on and on and on until you agree with me, and you will in the end or I'll make your life hell'

She is trying to control JJ again and telling him what he should and shouldn't do!

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

She is trying to control JJ again and telling him what he should and shouldn't do!

In a strange way I admire her manipulation techniques. We all see the exact same footage yet some viewers are completely taken in by her innocence while the rest see it plain as day. I think it might be down to how much intelligence you credit her with.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Shiner

In a strange way I admire her manipulation techniques. We all see the exact same footage yet some viewers are completely taken in by her innocence while the rest see it plain as day. I think it might be down to how much intelligence you credit her with.

I think people only see what they want to see when they like someone. I was a huge Ben fan and although I did see his faults, I chose to not let them cloud the positive things I liked about him. I assume thats how Josie's fans see her and to be honest I can see some positive things about her, its just that I see more negative ones, so thats how I judge. Its only in retrospect that we see things with a more balanced view

[eye sea]

Is the fish jibe about Josie's BO???

[pixee]

Originally Posted by rhino

I think people only see what they want to see when they like someone. I was a huge Ben fan and although I did see his faults, I chose to not let them cloud the positive things I liked about him. I assume thats how Josie's fans see her and to be honest I can see some positive things about her, its just that I see more negative ones, so thats how I judge. Its only in retrospect that we see things with a more balanced view

Agree, especially about Ben i was the same.

Forgive my pop psychology but i do think there are quite a few viewers projecting themselves onto josie, "normal" girl getting the pretty boy.

So i can almost understand the delusion, to a point i'm doing it with sam cause i'm projecting my own friends onto him lol.

[Omah]

Yesterday, 12:35 AM

Sam warned by BB for calling Josie a "fat slag"

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...68&postcount=1

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by pixee

Agree, especially about Ben i was the same.

Forgive my pop psychology but i do think there are quite a few viewers projecting themselves onto josie, "normal" girl getting the pretty boy.

So i can almost understand the delusion, to a point i'm doing it with sam cause i'm projecting my own friends onto him lol.

Yeah, we're all suckers for the happy ending. The HM's have known that ever since Paul/Helen and they know they create airtime and airtime means magazine deals on the outside. I'm not a cynic its just that BB romances historically are very rarely real and dont last beyond the puplic interest drying up

[pixee]

Originally Posted by rhino

Yeah, we're all suckers for the happy ending. The HM's have known that ever since Paul/Helen and they know they create airtime and airtime means magazine deals on the outside. I'm not a cynic its just that BB romances historically are very rarely real and dont last beyond the puplic interest drying up

Agreed. But there is a dishonesty to it which i think sam has tried to expose or enquire about.

[seanraff07]

I'm sure he told Dave he should be worried about his Mum, don't think Dave took any offence to it though.