[Macie Lightfoot]

The ~real~ and ~correct~ ranking of BB seasons:

BB2
BB3
BB6
BB11
BB10
BB7
BB5
BB8
BB4
BB9
BB1
BB12

[Gemmachi]

Originally Posted by SoBig

I just watched the first 5 episodes from season 2 and its no wonder how Will got the house guests to do whatever he wanted them to do. My God they were so stupid. Its crazy how much the game has changed since then.

If you watched the first episodes then you would know that Will was completely blindsided at the first eviction. Hate to break it to you but Nicole ruled that house the entire season.

I would recommend watching BB10. Definitely an underrated seasons. There's a lot of drama in it.

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

the ~real~ and ~correct~ ranking of bb seasons:

Bb2
bb3
bb6
bb11
bb10
bb7
bb5
bb8
bb4
bb9
bb1
bb12

o hay troy....

[smartalec2718]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

The ~real~ and ~correct~ ranking of BB seasons:

BB2
BB3
BB6
BB11
BB10
BB7
BB5
BB8
BB4
BB9
BB1
BB12

...no taste. No taste at all.

This is the "more real" and "absolutely correct" order:
BB8
BB6
BB11
BB3
BB4
BB10
BB5
BB7
BB2
BB9
BB1

I left BB12 unranked because as the season isn't over yet, things could change, but right now I'd place it between BB10 and BB5.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by smartalec2718

...no taste. No taste at all.

This is the "more real" and "absolutely correct" order:
BB8
BB6
BB11
BB3
BB4
BB10
BB5
BB7
BB2
BB9
BB1

I left BB12 unranked because as the season isn't over yet, things could change, but right now I'd place it between BB10 and BB5.

Let's go through what's wrong with your ranking.

BB8 was a rigged mess that got ruined with America's player, general Grodner rigging, and Dick being the most detestable human on the face of the earth.
BB6 was good, but got tiring with the Friendship being annoying and the Sovereigns making stupid moves.
BB11 was good, but just not as good as 2, 3, or 6.
BB3 was amazing because each person brought something to the cast and everyone was memorable.
BB4 was pretty bad compared to the other seasons because everyone was BORING. The exes were all boring, a lot of the original cast was boring, and it was just dull.
BB10 is so underrated it's not even funny. After a decent BB7, a painful BB8, and extremely forgettable BB9, BB10 came along and was truly a back to basics season.
BB5's in a pretty good spot.
BB7 is very underrated too and was a solid season, despite most All-Star seasons being flops. Very likable cast, awesome power shifts, very fulfilling season.
BB2 being this low is a sin. This truly revolutionized BBUS. The cast was amazing with so many trainwreck personalities, and like BB3, everyone was memorable. Nobody got shafted through their edit, watching Will and Nicole's rivalry was exciting. Definitely BB at its finest.
BB9 and BB1 are in the right areas, but BB12 is complete garbage. The most unlikable, detestable cast in BBUS history, only the Brigade is playing the game, and there has been no drama whatsoever, besides the two episode long Rachel/Kristen feud.

[SoBig]

BB8 was rigged. Which was sad, thats why I don't care for that season at all.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by SoBig

BB8 was rigged. Which was sad, thats why I don't care for that season at all.

Yeah. I mean it's definitely not the only season that was rigged, but it's certainly the one where the rigging was most blatant.

[Chilltown]

The only moment that was rigged in BB8 was when they kept Eric in the house over Kail. They wanted to make profit off of America's Player and give America a Jury Vote (which would get the big bucks). The rest of the season wasn't rigged or tweaked with. A similar situation happened in BB5 when Holly was evicted over Adria in order for the Twin Twist to work.

BB8 is a Classic Season. You cannot afford to miss it. Dick, Daniele, Jen and Eric are BB Legends.

[Chilltown]

Also if you want a correct order in which you should watch the BB Seasons then I'd suggest this:


1. BB2 - This is essentially the true beginning to BBUSA.
2. BB3 - A very good season that introduced the Veto.
3. BB6 - You don't really miss too much with BB4 & BB5 other than cool twists. BB5 has a great cast but really starts to go down hill once Jase is evicted. The gameplay is also fantastic. BB4, however, has a really unlikable cast and not as much drama as one would hope.
4. BB7 - All-Stars is definitely one of the best and most underrated BB seasons of them all. You need to check it out.
5. BB8 - A classic BB season full of TONS of entertainment and drama. Don't listen to those who try to **** on Dick. He was the star the season and the house was full of twats. You'd insult them too if you had to live with such hypocrites, crybabies and spoiled brats.
6. BB11 - BB9 is way too over the top and trashy. BB10 is way too boring. You're a group of uninteresting players in the end. The likable people go out 13-11, then the drama-starters go out from 10-7. Plus the producers show the winner down our throats and try to emulate Will with him - which is a fail. BB11 on the other hand has FANTASTIC characters and is almost like a mix between BB8 and BB6. You're given very likable players, complex characters and seriously the most rotten houseguests to possibly ever live in the BB house.

Out of the seasons I didn't list (BB1/BB4/BB5/BB9/BB10/BB12), they're all pretty much fodder with certain great characters (Will Mega/Chicken George/Alison/Jun/Jase/Scott/Holly/Cowboy/Nakomis/Marvin/James/Adam/Sheila/Natalie/Enzo/Britney/Rachel) but as a whole the season felt lackluster. I'd save those seasons for las.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Chilltown

The only moment that was rigged in BB8 was when they kept Eric in the house over Kail. They wanted to make profit off of America's Player and give America a Jury Vote (which would get the big bucks). The rest of the season wasn't rigged or tweaked with. A similar situation happened in BB5 when Holly was evicted over Adria in order for the Twin Twist to work.

BB8 is a Classic Season. You cannot afford to miss it. Dick, Daniele, Jen and Eric are BB Legends.

Grodner used the whole America's Player twist to get what she wanted and forced Eric to comply just to save Dick. That's how he got as far as he did.

There was the one PoV Comp where they had to get the green balls into their tube, and then Jameka was in the lead but disqualified after she put a blue ball in her tube. Jameka adamantly denied putting the blue ball in her tube and Dick was standing right behind her tube, so put it together.

And also, http://www.realityblurred.com/realit...nterfered_eric

Yeah I'd say there was more rigging in BB8 than Kail's eviction.

[smartalec2718]

troy, I don't dispute that BB8 was rigged. Oh hell yeah it was BLATANT. But at the same time the gameplay is absolutely par excellence. The America's player twist was brilliant, and I have to agree w/chilltown about the Donatos. Dick and Daniele formed the strongest powerhouse alliance in the history of the game.

As for the rest of the rankings, it's all subjective. I merely called my own rankings "more real" and "absolutely correct" because I was annoyed by the fact that you called yours real and correct without acknowledging that it's one man's opinion (yours) rather than generally accepted fact. I wasn't trying to inspire you to go and try to refute all my judgments because as I said - it's SUBJECTIVE. They're called OPINIONS. You can't argue against me saying I THINK BB8 is the best season...

[Chilltown]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Grodner used the whole America's Player twist to get what she wanted and forced Eric to comply just to save Dick. That's how he got as far as he did.

There was the one PoV Comp where they had to get the green balls into their tube, and then Jameka was in the lead but disqualified after she put a blue ball in her tube. Jameka adamantly denied putting the blue ball in her tube and Dick was standing right behind her tube, so put it together.

And also, http://www.realityblurred.com/realit...nterfered_eric

Yeah I'd say there was more rigging in BB8 than Kail's eviction.

Yeah, god forbid the producers should actually make Eric do his job as AP and keep Dick in the house like the viewers voted. How dare her? After he slacked off for 2 weeks. That whole banner tainted the entire game.

Also that blueball mystery has been going on forever by Anti-Dick protesters. There's no real proof that he did it although, he probably did do it.

People need to get their facts straight between rigging and favoring. There's been plenty of favoring (throwing random comps out at times to save a favorite such as Chicken George or Janelle in All-Stars) and then I'd call the blatant rigging the times where Eric/Adria stayed in the house.

Dick staying in the house was Eric's job for that week and he accomplished it. So how is that 'rigging'? The producers were definitely on his ass more-so because Dick was the big fan favorite of the season, like I said - he was the star. A house without Dick Donato in BB8 would have been severely boring. We see Daniele complain solo, then get the boot, then Jen goes and we eventually work our way up to a Dustin/Amber final two. No thanks.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Chilltown

Yeah, god forbid the producers should actually make Eric do his job as AP and keep Dick in the house like the viewers voted. How dare her? After he slacked off for 2 weeks. That whole banner tainted the entire game.

Also that blueball mystery has been going on forever by Anti-Dick protesters. There's no real proof that he did it although, he probably did do it.

People need to get their facts straight between rigging and favoring. There's been plenty of favoring (throwing random comps out at times to save a favorite such as Chicken George or Janelle in All-Stars) and then I'd call the blatant rigging the times where Eric/Adria stayed in the house.

Dick staying in the house was Eric's job for that week and he accomplished it. So how is that 'rigging'? The producers were definitely on his ass more-so because Dick was the big fan favorite of the season, like I said - he was the star. A house without Dick Donato in BB8 would have been severely boring. We see Daniele complain solo, then get the boot, then Jen goes and we eventually work our way up to a Dustin/Amber final two. No thanks.

Of course they're gonna make Eric do his job to keep Dick in the House like "the viewers" voted and of course it's perfectly reasonable and acceptable to threaten him in the DR to kick him off the show if he doesn't campaign for what "America" voted.

Rigging, favoring, whatever you wanna call it, it's still cheating and manipulation. Ever since S8 Grodner's manipulation over the show has been absurd and has ruined a lot of the fun of the game. You can't tell me that the guinea pigs REALLY counted as a couple in the F4 HoH in BB9. There have been many example of threatening and manipulation in the DR that we conveniently don't see. Still, the HouseGuests talk about it, we can put 2 and 2 together, the rigging, or "favoring" as you wanna call it to lighten it, is a big part of the show nowadays.

It's "rigging" or if you wanna make it not such a big deal "favoring" because it's clear manipulation of the game. You can't tell me that threatening to kick Eric off of the show if he doesn't campaign right when he comes out of the DR is reasonable and acceptable JUST because he's America's Player. It's a huge double standard and a bunch of BS. And a house without Dick Donato wouldn't be severely boring, it would actually be alright to watch and not disturbing. Watching a grown man burn someone with a cigarette, pour iced tea on someone, and threaten to rape three people until they bleed and beg for more is perfectly okay right?

[Chilltown]

Yeah, I can't disagree with you on that. Ever since BB8 the show has been really under the supervision of Grodner. The F4 HoH is a perfect example. It's also funny to see the new trend of winners - each of the four have been popular amongst mainstream viewers.

Dick - Fan favorite of the season.
Adam - Fan favorite once James left the house a second time.
Dan - Fan favorite of the season.
Jordan - Secondary Fan Fave after her main squeeze Jeff, America's Favo, left.


I won't argue with you that there is definite manipulation by producers involved in the game. But I really don't see too too much of a difference as for what Survivor does also. I am willing to bet each of these reality shows - even on CBS - does a bit of manipulating behind the scenes. The obvious instance was in Borneo for Survivor. So I don't really have a problem with the producers tweaking things at times as long as it's not too drastic.

As for the whole Dick vs. Jen thing - Jen kept trying to slap the cigarette out of his hands. If she didn't want smoke blown at her or to get burned, she should have known she was dealing with an immature adult and just left the backyard. The only people who found Dick 'disturbing' were the Jen fans. It doesn't make what he said right but it's a reality show. Who really cares at the end of the day? He didn't stab four people, rape and impregnate all the women then light the BB house on fire. He was just an asshole. And he won. So what's the big deal? :\

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Chilltown

Yeah, I can't disagree with you on that. Ever since BB8 the show has been really under the supervision of Grodner. The F4 HoH is a perfect example. It's also funny to see the new trend of winners - each of the four have been popular amongst mainstream viewers.

Dick - Fan favorite of the season.
Adam - Fan favorite once James left the house a second time.
Dan - Fan favorite of the season.
Jordan - Secondary Fan Fave after her main squeeze Jeff, America's Favo, left.


I won't argue with you that there is definite manipulation by producers involved in the game. But I really don't see too too much of a difference as for what Survivor does also. I am willing to bet each of these reality shows - even on CBS - does a bit of manipulating behind the scenes. The obvious instance was in Borneo for Survivor. So I don't really have a problem with the producers tweaking things at times as long as it's not too drastic.

As for the whole Dick vs. Jen thing - Jen kept trying to slap the cigarette out of his hands. If she didn't want smoke blown at her or to get burned, she should have known she was dealing with an immature adult and just left the backyard. The only people who found Dick 'disturbing' were the Jen fans. It doesn't make what he said right but it's a reality show. Who really cares at the end of the day? He didn't stab four people, rape and impregnate all the women then light the BB house on fire. He was just an asshole. And he won. So what's the big deal? :\

So it's perfectly okay for someone to threaten to rape three other HouseGuests until they bleed, and then beg for more? I'm sure Jen fans weren't the only ones who found that disturbing.

[Chilltown]

No, I'm not condoning it at all. All I am saying is that had the season been Dick-less, it would have been a snooze.

[cheapbbfan]

BB6 was by far the best season. You cant go wrong with that. BB3 and 5 were also good ones

[Chilltown]

BB6 was and excellent season but seems to get a bad wrap now in comparison to BB8/BB11 where it was a balls-to-the-walls duke'em out where the 'good guys' wound up winning in the end.

[cheapbbfan]

Yuck, I thought BB11 was by far one of the worst seasns (not counting BB1 which is insignificant). Not a single likeable housemate. Its sad when Jesse was probably the best one. Couldnt stand the rest

[smartalec2718]

Originally Posted by cheapbbfan

Yuck, I thought BB11 was by far one of the worst seasns (not counting BB1 which is insignificant). Not a single likeable housemate. Its sad when Jesse was probably the best one. Couldnt stand the rest

Are you kidding? BB11 was one of the best seasons of all. I loved Jeff, Jordan, Russell, Michele, and Chima (before she blew up lol). I loved to hate Jessie, Natalie, Kevin, and Ronnie. Lydia was frickin' hilarious. At least they didn't make things ridiculously over-the-top personal and mean as this year's lot are doing.

[Gemmachi]

Originally Posted by Chilltown

BB6 was and excellent season but seems to get a bad wrap now in comparison to BB8/BB11 where it was a balls-to-the-walls duke'em out where the 'good guys' wound up winning in the end.

The Donatos were the good guys? LOL. The guy who threatened to rape people and the girl who cheated on her boyfriend? Yeah, Jen was the bad guy. How dare she get tea dumped on her and who does she think she is to disapprove of Daniele cheating on her boyfriend!?

[Chilltown]

Originally Posted by Gemmachi

The Donatos were the good guys? LOL. The guy who threatened to rape people and the girl who cheated on her boyfriend? Yeah, Jen was the bad guy. How dare she get tea dumped on her and who does she think she is to disapprove of Daniele cheating on her boyfriend!?

Well the fan favorite all season was Dick according to the polls and he holds reign as one of the most popular BB players of all time.

[Gemmachi]

Originally Posted by Chilltown

Well the fan favorite all season was Dick according to the polls and he holds reign as one of the most popular BB players of all time.

He was the fan favorite because the episodes were edited in his favor. It was made to look like Jen was a selfish bitch who deserved what she got which wasn't true at all. Yeah, Jen was a little odd, but she never said a bad word about ANYONE in the house. That makes her the good guy. Sorry but you just can't justify someone who threatens to rape people as good Jen did nothing to deserve the way he treated her and the fact that the other houseguests as well as the viewers condoned it was disgusting. Luckily a lot of live feed viewers saw the truth. On fan sites like sucks Jen was the most popular.

[cheapbbfan]

Originally Posted by smartalec2718

Are you kidding? BB11 was one of the best seasons of all. I loved Jeff, Jordan, Russell, Michele, and Chima (before she blew up lol). I loved to hate Jessie, Natalie, Kevin, and Ronnie. Lydia was frickin' hilarious. At least they didn't make things ridiculously over-the-top personal and mean as this year's lot are doing.

by the end of that season, I hated every last housemate except Jesse. I rooted for Natalie to win by defualt only bc she was the best of the worst left, but overall they all sucked. An overal disappointing season

[Marc]

How was BB8 rigged? Was it officially leaked?