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Old 22-08-2010, 03:18 PM #1
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imo John James had/has nothing to say sorry for in regards to Rachel. Sure, they argued, she stood her ground, he stood his.

I find the whole gender issue raised by Josie, Corin and even Davina (during the interview) to be total BS.

I've been watching John James since the start and he pretty much stands his ground and argues with anyone, and this whole 'he only argues with women' is crap.

Also, why should a woman get special treatment?

When Josie said, (words to the effect of): ''You shouldn't argue with women John, be a gentleman''.

He SHOULD have replied, ''Well women shouldn't argue either, as it's not very ladylike''.

If only he had the intellect to make such a response. Sadly, he was too stupid to.
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It's not the fact she's a woman really, it's that he said something EXTREMELY degrading and offensive.

It's like her saying to him "I bet you'd shag Josie if she paid you", it's still very, very offensive.

I guess the fact she's a woman doesn't help really but imo gender doesn't matter this time.
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Didn't he say ' the only thing you would not do for money is shag someone' ? or worlds to that effect. where was the insult? He literally said she was not a *****. To Rachel 1 thats more like a compliment.
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he should have apologised cos he was very nasty and totally in the wrong.

Remember he is the inmate that had told producers BEFORE coming into the house that he would do full nude shots for any gay mag that wants him to after the show, as long as he was allowed to photoshop his willy.
So its ok for him to go in the house with the intention of selling dirty pictures of himself after being evicted but none of the girls are allowed, in his world, to do any photoshoots on the back of being in there????
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^ Stupid replies here and they don't really address the OP. Shameful.
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I'm on Rachael's side and everything but I agree. He shouldn't have to apologize.
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Didn't he say ' the only thing you would not do for money is shag someone' ? or worlds to that effect. where was the insult? He literally said she was not a *****. To Rachel 1 thats more like a compliment.
Spot on but the corin fans and JJ haters just had to jump on him Rachel started on JJ as soon as he went into the room just because he did not fancy her she was p'd off with him what a horrible bitch she was
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He should apologise to Rachael for many things actually. She never did a single thing to him in BB. His comments during the massage were downright offensive and disgusting.

But if the OP still doesnt get it then I won't even waste my time explaining. I can only assume youre of the same mindset as the rude, scrawny mess himself. Ho hum.
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Wee-Mo, if you are to quote and agree with anyone it should be me. My OP was the best post in this thread and the fact you skimmed it is disgraceful.
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He most definitely should apologise, the offensive little *****, that comment was extremely offensive
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He should apologise to Rachael for many things actually. She never did a single thing to him in BB. His comments during the massage were downright offensive and disgusting.

But if the OP still doesnt get it then I won't even waste my time explaining. I can only assume youre of the same mindset as the rude, scrawny mess himself. Ho hum.
Why should HE apologise?

I am PROUD he was a real man and actually took her to task! Instead of sucking up to her in an attempt to get laid he stood his ground and wasn't impressed at her whole 'poor little woman' act (the first time round) and didn't cave in either this time when she was more assertive.

Good on John! Let's raise a pint in his honour!
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Why should HE apologise?

I am PROUD he was a real man and actually took her to task! Instead of sucking up to her in an attempt to get laid he stood his ground and wasn't impressed at her whole 'poor little woman' act (the first time round) and didn't cave in either this time when she was more assertive.

Good on John! Let's raise a pint in his honour!
A real man?!!! LMFAO

Yeah he looked like a real man when he was cacking his pants and blubbing like a baby at the thought of Nathan coming after him for his comments! So what exactly was he afraid of if he didnt think he'd said anything offensive to her? Why were the whole house berating him for his comment?

Take her to task? Jesus christ, what is it with folk like you that thinks a good looking woman somehow has to justify herself? Are you effing serious?

Rachael doesnt have to justify herself to ANYBODY least of all a scrawny, nasty, issue riddled hypocritical LIAR like John James. He has about 86 faults of his own to sort out before he goes around rudely pointing out those of others! Who the fook does he think he is?

And reading your posts you certainly do seem to be of the same mindset so...I fail to care about your opinion frankly.
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Why should HE apologise?

I am PROUD he was a real man and actually took her to task! Instead of sucking up to her in an attempt to get laid he stood his ground and wasn't impressed at her whole 'poor little woman' act (the first time round) and didn't cave in either this time when she was more assertive.

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A real man?!!! LMFAO

Yeah he looked like a real man when he was cacking his pants and blubbing like a baby at the thought of Nathan coming after him for his comments! So what exactly was he afraid of if he didnt think he'd said anything offensive to her? Why were the whole house berating him for his comment?

Take her to task? Jesus christ, what is it with folk like you that thinks a good looking woman somehow has to justify herself? Are you effing serious?

Rachael doesnt have to justify herself to ANYBODY least of all a scrawny, nasty, issue riddled hypocritical LIAR like John James. He has about 86 faults of his own to sort out before he goes around rudely pointing out those of others! Who the fook does he think he is?

And reading your posts you certainly do seem to be of the same mindset so...I fail to care about your opinion frankly.
Perfectlly said - just to add that Crabby, himself couldn't wait to apologise when he realised Nathan was in the picture - if you're going to go round insulting people like you couldn't give a rip you should have the guts to stand up to your convictions not cack yourself when someone takes you task.
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^ Stupid replies here and they don't really address the OP. Shameful.
I think the replies addressed the OP's comments. Because they don't agree doesn't make them wrong.

John James is a spineless, ill-mannered, ill-bred little creep. If he had anything about him he would apologise for letting his smart mouth run away with him.
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He should apologise to Rachael for many things actually. She never did a single thing to him in BB. His comments during the massage were downright offensive and disgusting.

But if the OP still doesnt get it then I won't even waste my time explaining. I can only assume youre of the same mindset as the rude, scrawny mess himself. Ho hum.
i only think he should apologise to her for how he treated her in week 1 not when she came back imo.
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Didn't he say ' the only thing you would not do for money is shag someone' ? or worlds to that effect. where was the insult? He literally said she was not a *****. To Rachel 1 thats more like a compliment.
that is what he said and your right I didnt really get why everyone went off on one, he was basically saying you would do anything but have sex for money. Referring to getting her kit off for the camera - which is her choice I know but some blokes find that degrading. Both there attitudes sucked but because shes the woman it must be the blokes fault - and Im a bloody woman
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I'm on Rachael's side and everything but I agree. He shouldn't have to apologize.
ffs get off of John James's dick and actually have morals Stacey.
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I do agree he went too far.. Rachael was my favourite the first week, I couldn't stand him actually.
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He should apologize to Rachel, Rachael and Corin!
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He should apologise to Australia for shaming the image of an Aussie male.
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I'm on Rachael's side and everything but I agree. He shouldn't have to apologize.
Of course he should apologize if he has upset someone ,it's common decency.i was brought up that way anyway,but I know manners aren't too high on parents agendas today.
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Can someone tell me ?What the EFF is it Crabbys business what anyone does inside or outside the house?serious question,I mean really, why does he think people have to answer to him?
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he should have apologised cos he was very nasty and totally in the wrong.

Remember he is the inmate that had told producers BEFORE coming into the house that he would do full nude shots for any gay mag that wants him to after the show, as long as he was allowed to photoshop his willy.
So its ok for him to go in the house with the intention of selling dirty pictures of himself after being evicted but none of the girls are allowed, in his world, to do any photoshoots on the back of being in there????
His whole time in the house was a lie. On BBBM he did not say No, when asked if he would do a photo shoot for a 6 figure sum. He said he would have to ask Josie.
That is why he is hanging around to make money out of Josie.
He attacked Rachael because she was good looking. He would not have given Josie a second glance if she was walking down a street in Melbourne.
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He attacked Rachael because hot looking women like her probably drop him when they realise his sexual issues. Which he obviously has. I mean, what 24yr old man announces he could happily go without sex for the rest of his life?

One with serious sexual issues, thats who!

Somebody like Josie is more obtainable because she's likely to be more forgiving of his bedroom inefficiencies. He's scared of Beautiful women I reckon. Has he ever told Josie she's beautiful? Ive never heard it!
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