[Stevep]

Conniving YAWN, looking for Sams fans YAWN, manipulative YAWN, desperate and will do anything to win YAWN, her love for john james was all an act YAWN, now looking for the sympathy vote YAWN.

lol and look what happens, SHE WALKS and goes straight to John James. Pretty **** gameplan if you ask me.

Any chance you were all wrong and that she werent actually a brainy, cunning, maniplative mastermind that would do anything to win?

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by oddballmisfitsFTW

she has already won, so why stay?

now all she wants is to spend all her winnings on cakes and chocolates and get under duvet with John James

she was a devious snake and a nasty bitch and a fat fook hippo troll

People were claiming she was changing her tactics for UBB. She was looking for Sams fans, she was looking for the sympathy vote and the rest.

All i can say after todays events, discussion ENDED.

[setanta]

Oh, she wanted to win UBB - make no mistake about that, but the little green eyed monster came out again once John James' name was mentioned.

[billy123]

fat ***** just didnt care once she had pocketed the cash good riddance to the thick twat

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by setanta

Oh, she wanted to win UBB - make no mistake about that, but the little green eyed monster came out again once John James' name was mentioned.

Obviously, who doesnt? The difference in my argument is that she wasnt a Manipulative mastermind that was desperate to win. Forgetting BB11 for a moment, one popular theory on the masterminds UBB tactics were to look for the sympathy vote and blame her sombre mood in the house on her 'fake' love for John James........hmm i guess that theory was a load of bulls aye. Guess 'pulling in Sams fans' was a total waste of time too aye. Guess sucking up to all the UBB housemates goes out the window too.

Any chance she was just being herself?

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by bobnot

fat ***** just didnt care once she had pocketed the cash good riddance to the thick twat

Werent she a intelligent tactician before?

[Gillian-73]

No, she realised she couldn't get away with her fake game with the ubb HMs like she could with the bb11 HMs! Thats my opinion anyway!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by setanta

oh, she wanted to win ubb - make no mistake about that, but the little green eyed monster came out again once john james' name was mentioned.

exactly !

[Sticks]

Are some of you a bit bitter that your favoured housemate did not win?

I sense sour grapes

For the record I have been neutral and even suggested that maybe it would be better if Josie did not win BB11, although that was for her own good. I bore her no malice, unlike some here

If you bothered to watch the BBLB interview it was clear that Josie had something a kin to a nervous breakdown.

UBB was a bad idea, poorly executed.

Yet again C4/Endemol handle this badly

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Obviously, who doesnt? The difference in my argument is that she wasnt a Manipulative mastermind that was desperate to win. Forgetting BB11 for a moment, one popular theory on the masterminds UBB tactics were to look for the sympathy vote and blame her sombre mood in the house on her 'fake' love for John James........hmm i guess that theory was a load of bulls aye. Guess 'pulling in Sams fans' was a total waste of time too aye. Guess sucking up to all the UBB housemates goes out the window too.

Any chance she was just being herself?

She milked the sympathy vote for all it was worth during the days prior to the final, waffling on in the diary room and snuggling up to John James' photo under the duvet.

The difference now is that she obviously understood that the new housemates weren't going to humour this insecure part of her nature, and so she realised that she had no foothold within the house really and that John James was out there on his own, you know? That would have driven a manipulative and needy person like her mad.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Conniving YAWN, looking for Sams fans YAWN, manipulative YAWN, desperate and will do anything to win YAWN, her love for john james was all an act YAWN, now looking for the sympathy vote YAWN.

lol and look what happens, SHE WALKS and goes straight to John James. Pretty **** gameplan if you ask me.

Any chance you were all wrong and that she werent actually a brainy, cunning, maniplative mastermind that would do anything to win?

I'm even more convinced now what a conniving gameplayer she is. She was no longer top dog in the UBB house, and was just an average, overweight, not very bright, uninteresting wallflower. Without the showmance she has no storyline, no interest, no personality. No longer the centre of attention, she couldn't hack it, and after what Nadia and the others have said about JJ1 she was freaking out about him being on the loose with loads of other shielas!

It's not rocket science!

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Conniving YAWN, looking for Sams fans YAWN, manipulative YAWN, desperate and will do anything to win YAWN, her love for john james was all an act YAWN, now looking for the sympathy vote YAWN.

lol and look what happens, SHE WALKS and goes straight to John James. Pretty **** gameplan if you ask me.

Any chance you were all wrong and that she werent actually a brainy, cunning, maniplative mastermind that would do anything to win?

Er... YAWN.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Sticks

If you bothered to watch the BBLB interview it was clear that Josie had something a kin to a nervous breakdown.

UBB was a bad idea, poorly executed.

Yet again C4/Endemol handle this badly

Totally agree Sticks, i dont think they should have, asked her to go back in either.

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by Sticks

If you bothered to watch the BBLB interview it was clear that Josie had something a kin to a nervous breakdown.

From personal experience, I don't believe that for a second. Look at how chirpy she was in her BBLB interview, does that look like somebody who went through a nervous breakdown to you? She wouldn't even want to appear on camera.

[Lex]

It just goes to show how smart our little Josie really is!!
It took her only two days to realise that she could'nt pull it off again!
Not with the acute rise in the quality of her opposition!
And that staying in the house, could only damage her current 'hard earned' popularity!
Staying in there and waiting to be evicted , when she could be outside(with business partner Crabby) , cashing in while still riding high....would be silly and un-Josie-like!!

WELL DONE JOSIE!....and you've still got the faithful fooled!!

[Ammi]

I think its obvious now that she hid the fact that she is a boring person, devoid of personality under the duvet. She had a few one liners in the first few weeks, a couple in the last few days and nothing in between. I don't have any respect for the fact that she took the laziest most horizontal option of a fauxmance to entertain and as a fan I am insulted that she thought that her dopey self depreciating act would fool.
Now that she is forced into a vertical position and has actually got to make some sort of effort with her other HM's she's apparantly having a breakdown with the stress. And they are a fairly weak bunch of personalities compared to some past HM's.
Well good riddance - as your pathetic Aussie t*at would say 'If you cant hack it, get your jacket'

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Lex

It just goes to show how smart our little Josie really is!!
It took her only two days to realise that she could'nt pull it off again!
Not with the acute rise in the quality of her opposition!
And that staying in the house, could only damage her current 'hard earned' popularity!
Staying in there and waiting to be evicted , when she could be outside(with business partner Crabby) , cashing in while still riding high....would be silly and un-Josie-like!!

WELL DONE JOSIE!....and you've still got the faithful fooled!!

Yep, exactly. Well said.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by Shiner

Er... YAWN.

Original that aye.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Original that aye.

You missed the irony then.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by setanta

Yep, exactly. Well said.

Thanks!

[Stevep]

Anyways, fair enough for all the peeps that think she is a game player, no need to try and convince people otherwise. We all see things and take them differently, so no point going on.

Again, not even a big fan of Josie and im finding myself defending her here in the past couple of days more than any other housemate. Just totally disagree with the Manipulative mastermind comments, find them mind boggling.

Anyways nufffffff said.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by shiner

you missed the irony then.

yawn.

[icecakes]

how do we know it wasnt a fix ,she diddnt want to go in,so bb says just go in for 2 days

so we can do the friday show,then you can walk out,we will leave the door open, remove

the security men,have john james waiting with open arms,then they can sail off in the

sunset ,with a great storyline,gave it all up for love,the papers will love it aaaaaaaah

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

From personal experience, I don't believe that for a second. Look at how chirpy she was in her BBLB interview, does that look like somebody who went through a nervous breakdown to you? She wouldn't even want to appear on camera.

Now personal experience is cited in refution, but not everyone's experience is the same. Have never heard of "putting a brave face on it"

Some symptoms can be acute, like the hallucination she suffered from, although I suspect because of the stress she suffered from a form of Sleep Paralysis.

The other HM's were piling it on and Josie had an acute episode. We have all had times like that when things just get the better of us.

Also between walking and the filming of BBLB, who knows what counselling / Therapy / help would have been given to Josie so they could stick her in front of the camera for just a few minutes of footage.

All cases are different as any clinician will tell you.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by icecakes

how do we know it wasnt a fix ,she diddnt want to go in,so bb says just go in for 2 days

so we can do the friday show,then you can walk out,we will leave the door open, remove

the security men,have john james waiting with open arms,then they can sail off in the

sunset ,with a great storyline,gave it all up for love,the papers will love it aaaaaaaah

They aren't that clever and they aren't that stupid

C4 / Endemol messed up plain and simple, like they always seem to do