[Hero1]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

my point is IF Brian was to mentions Vics colour this place and the Daily Star() would be up in arms ,when Jade said POPPADOM even the PRIME FOOKING MINISTER made a speech about it in Westminster ,but this lowlife can say homophobic things and its ok ?NO ITS NOT

But he did though, Brian called Chantelle a skank because another black man has come into the house for her to jump on! Or was that general banter, or should Victor and Chantelle be offended at the same time?

[supergirthuk]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Speak English then

Oh you do banter too. Ever considered this offensive before you typed it, cook sukcer?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Hero1

But he did though, Brian called Chantelle a skank because another black man has come into the house for her to jump on! Or was that general banter, or should Victor and Chantelle be offended at the same time?

He never said BLACK man ,and if he did without you are watching it with your eyes closed ,Vic the PRic IS black

[Showstopper]

O for the love of God. He's not talking in a literal sense, its banter

Stop getting offended for the sake of it

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Showstopper

O for the love of God. He's not taling in a literal sense, its banter

Stop getting offended for the sake of it

To call a gay man a "cock sucker"is NOT banter

[Hero1]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He never said BLACK man ,and if he did without you are watching it with your eyes closed ,Vic the PRic IS black

He did, and they even edited it out in the morning show.

[Keithhhhh]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

To call a gay man a "cock sucker"is NOT banter

but to call a straight man it is? so i can call a white man a n*gger, but not a black man?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Keithhhhh

but to call a straight man it is? so i can call a white man a n*gger, but not a black man?

Dont be silly PLEASE

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Hero1

He did, and they even edited it out in the morning show.

He called him a BROTHER ,please wiki the word and come back to say sorry i will be here

[Keithhhhh]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dont be silly PLEASE

I'm trying to see your point of view, it sure either be acceptable to call everyone a cock sucker, or not, while 'bantering'.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Keithhhhh

I'm trying to see your point of view, it sure either be acceptable to call everyone a cock sucker, or not, while 'bantering'.

No it is NOT acceptable ,no more so than brian calling him a N****r would be ,but as per usual with Vic the pric it was said behind his back ,and wont be shown in the hls ,but all Jade said was shown ? double standards

[Keithhhhh]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No it is NOT acceptable ,no more so than brian calling him a N****r would be ,but as per usual with Vic the pric it was said behind his back ,and wont be shown in the hls ,but all Jade said was shown ? double standards

The way you said:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

To call a gay man a "cock sucker"is NOT banter

makes it sound as if you're saying it is banter to say it to a straight man though, that's why I'm confused, if you mean it's not acceptable either way, then I get it though.

[M X]

Originally Posted by parmnion

i'm not.

But i can assure you that there is far far more straight people killed in bars just for being themselves than there is gay folks.

And that makes it fine that gay people have been killed for being themselves? Your point is invalid.

[M X]

Originally Posted by Chilltown

No, it only proves that people running your country blow. You're only "un-equal" if you let yourself get bullied by those in the opposition. I'd say there's just as many of you, if not more, than there are Anti-Gay protesters. You can do whatever you like. It just takes work in certain fields until the government can evolve. It's not a true matter of inequality, it's a matter of progress.

Well I disagree.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Keithhhhh

The way you said:


makes it sound as if you're saying it is banter to say it to a straight man though, that's why I'm confused, if you mean it's not acceptable either way, then I get it though.

Right ,lets go through this again ,I dont think it is right calling him a cock sucker AT ALL,but because brian IS gay it makes it worse ,Vic IS black but if Brian had called him the N word it would have been slated on here ,DOUBLE STANDARDS

[CaudleHalbard]

Cocksucker is generally a term of abuse - and not necessarily direct at gay men. Straight men call each other this.

I think Victor is still annoyed with Brian's description of him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Cocksucker is generally a term of abuse - and not necessarily direct at gay men. Straight men call each other this.

I think Victor is still annoyed with Brian's description of him.

I think its more hes $hit scared of the fact that Brian is sewn on cert to win this

[Melanie20]

You can call anyone a ******* sucker it doesn't just apply to gay man and therefore is so not homophobic

[Chuckyegg]

Originally Posted by Chuckyegg

I reckon a lot of people think there is a bunch of gay men hanging around somewhere, waiting to be offended by everything. Cock sucker is a general insult, like motherfckr. Victor is both of these.

This.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Vic the PRic IS black

...and Brian is gay [i.e a cock sucker]...what's the problem?

[cub]

If it was said in anger it was meant as an insult. Therefore yes, it is homophobic.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Ive been on the gay scene since i was 15 i know what my people want and its not to be parented by organisatons and so called do gooders like yourself.

AND WE ARE ALREADY EQUAL!

Well that's nothing to be proud of...

And please, don't think your opinions represent all gay men...

[Chuckyegg]

Victor is so low he would get vertigo in a sewer.

[Showstopper]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dont be silly PLEASE

Take your own advice please, you're talking rubbish

[Vicky.]

Did Brian take offence at being called a cocksucker? If not then why did you?

Cocksucker is just a regular insult as far as I'm aware...no different to calling someone, for instance, a dickhead :S

IF Brian had been upset about it, which I doubt...then there might be a problem. But it appears as if people are looking for homophobia where it isn't.