[Kaz]

Do you think Jon was trying to influence Cameron's nominations by talking about Federico to him when they were alone in the bathroom?

I have to say I felt a bit uncomfortable with the conversation when I watched it on the live feed yesterday.

And Cameron obviously felt uneasy too . . . . . so much so that he felt the need to go and talk to Big Brother about it.

Was it an innocent remark, or did Jon have an ulterior motive? I'm not entirely sure.

[James]

I take the opposite view on this. If anything Cameron was having a sly little dig at Jon.

I think Cameron's too self-conscious with how he's being portrayed, with his 'I dinna' like that' I'm not bitching speech in the diary room.

He's obviously aware about how Adele was treated last year. I think it would make for a very false show if no-one was ever allowed to have an opinion about anyone else.

And it didn't stop Cameron talking about Jon to Justine later on behind his back. I don't think Jon is anything like Nasty Nick really.

[Sticks]

Jon was just talking about someone behind their back, complaining about the person to someone handy.

This happened in the previous Big Brothers.

[bonzo]

I don't see how any comparison can be made to Nick Bateman, Jon was merely having a moan, and Cameron is just playing the game. This was just another example of channel 4's dubious editing, they were desperate for Anouska to stay on Friday, and Jon to go, and are ******** themselves, about how BB4 is going, so keep Jon in, if only to stick two metaphorical fingers up to the BB useless producers. Jon will be up for eviction again this week, and expect to see the anti- Jon editing being stepped up!

[Mairi]

Originally posted by Kaz
Was it an innocent remark, or did Jon have an ulterior motive? I'm not entirely sure.

I think it WAS an innocent remark. It was also a truthful one. Federico IS lazy. He is always last up and does virtually nothing round the house. Nick wasn't truthful and came out with outrageous statements about the other housemates. That's the difference.

I can understand Cameron's feeling of guilt afterwards, though, as he probably remembered the "Nasty Nick" episode and just wanted to assure BB that he wasn't being influenced to vote a certain way by Jon.

[herindoors]

I dont think jon was trying to say anything nasty it seemed like a throwaway comment that was just said about every body and the cleaning. After all if each of them did their share it would give everybody a chance to sit about and talk together.

[Romantic Old Bird]

I think he was just having a moan. Remember BB1? I think almost all of them moaned that Craig spent most of his time topping up his tan.

It's just that the cracks are starting to appear.

Jon will doubtlesly be nominated today, and I wonder if Fed will be too?

[DLS]

I've seen Cam whinge about Jon's Diary room visits behind his back. If anyone's trying to be manipulative, it's Cam.
PS I didn't like the way he said to Fed "Darius isn't really a scotsman". I guess in his eyes Fed isn't either. It's a bit too fascist as far as I'm concerned. God help us if Mister pure Chistianity (ahem) finds out Justine is Jewish. Sorry, but he just so gets under my skin.

[James]

Originally posted by Romantic Old Bird
Jon will doubtlesly be nominated today, and I wonder if Fed will be too?

Yes I think Fed has been nominated as well. Steph said last night that he has annoyed her from the start, Justine made her feelings about Fed pretty clear also.