[Cromwell1900]

Evidence 1
If you cast your mind back to the letters from home task in which Aaron was upset because of the Frosties fight the night before, he had a conversation with Faye in the bathroom.

He pointed out that she had been friendly with Louise since the stranded task, even though he had
taken the brunt of the blame for walking out of the Stranded task.

This sounded like Aaron guilt tripping Faye to me, and if i was mummy i'd be furious



Evidence 2

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Well i did hear some talk about there being more to that conversation so i'm not suggesting i no it all but Harry did say it.

"The whole relationship thing, the attention to detail is unreal"

Then Aaron says

"I've down played it, haven't played it sort of thing"

"I don't want to come out and just have questions about Faye"

Aaron went on to say I do like Faye, to which Harry replied that's what worries me.

If i'd of heard this as a parent i'd of been jumping around with anger.

Can we see a Mums eye view here?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Evidence 1
If you cast your mind back to the letters from home task in which Aaron was upset because of the Frosties fight the night before, he had a conversation with Faye in the bathroom.

He pointed out that she had been friendly with Louise since the stranded task, even though he had
taken the brunt of the blame for walking out of the Stranded task.

This sounded like Aaron guilt tripping Faye to me, and if i was mummy i'd be furious



Evidence 2


Aaron went on to say I do like Faye, to which Harry replied that's what worries me.

If i'd of heard this as a parent i'd of been jumping around with anger.

Can we see a Mums eye view here?

It might look like guilt tripping to you,to me it looked like he was telling the truth,she did say she didn't like Louise and then backtracked,faye does this a lot

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Evidence 1
If you cast your mind back to the letters from home task in which Aaron was upset because of the Frosties fight the night before, he had a conversation with Faye in the bathroom.

He pointed out that she had been friendly with Louise since the stranded task, even though he had
taken the brunt of the blame for walking out of the Stranded task.

This sounded like Aaron guilt tripping Faye to me, and if i was mummy i'd be furious



Evidence 2


Aaron went on to say I do like Faye, to which Harry replied that's what worries me.

If i'd of heard this as a parent i'd of been jumping around with anger.

Can we see a Mums eye view here?

Point 1. He was being honest in telling Faye that was one of the reasons he felt he couldn't trust people - inc her, and gave her an example why - becuase all of a sudden, having had weeks having nothing to do with Louise, suddenly she's all over her like a rash.

Looks like Mother dearest has taught her daughters well - ie; to go off their rocker when they hear some home truths.

Point 2.
Why shouldn't Aaron not want to come out and have his BB experience being spoken about with it all being about him and Faye. He knows what it's like - and he's right. for weeks, the two of them didn't spend tiem together during the day: somethign else Faye moaned like a bitch about btw.

the attention to detail comment could, for all we know, be referring to BB's portrayal of Aaron/Faye etc: we don't know the full story behind that convo ... we do know however that BB has a habit of snipping convos, adding parts of disjointed convos together: to make up a complete falsehood.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Point 1. He was being honest in telling Faye that was one of the reasons he felt he couldn't trust people - inc her, and gave her an example why - becuase all of a sudden, having had weeks having nothing to do with Louise, suddenly she's all over her like a rash.

Looks like Mother dearest has taught her daughters well - ie; to go off their rocker when they hear some home truths.

Point 2.
Why shouldn't Aaron not want to come out and have his BB experience being spoken about with it all being about him and Faye. He knows what it's like - and he's right. for weeks, the two of them didn't spend tiem together during the day: somethign else Faye moaned like a bitch about btw.

the attention to detail comment could, for all we know, be referring to BB's portrayal of Aaron/Faye etc: we don't know the full story behind that convo ... we do know however that BB has a habit of snipping convos, adding parts of disjointed convos together: to make up a complete falsehood.

Thanks, that first explanation makes a lot of sense to me.

So are you suggesting the Attention to detail comment from Harry was Harry's view of how BB may be editing Arron & Faye?

or that every word a Hm has ever said in this years BB can be dismissed as a Bad Edit.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Thanks, that first explanation makes a lot of sense to me.

So are you suggesting the Attention to detail comment from Harry was Harry's view of how BB may be editing Arron & Faye?

or that every word a Hm has ever said in this years BB can be dismissed as a Bad Edit.

yep, that's what I am saying: we don't know what was said, in what context - no where close to it. And yep, that may (or may not) apply to every other type of edit - bad or good, regardless of housemate. (the prime example being not one hm ever mentioning Jay putting his crap in the freezer - until Aaron referred to it subtly in the diary room). such an incident happens and there is not one utter word, not a sentence by a full house of hms regarding the incident, nor in having the freezer removed, or discussing what happened to the contents, if BB refilled it with the same foodstuff that had to be destroyed.....not a single word was uttered. That's the converse side: ie a good edit.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

yep, that's what I am saying: we don't know what was said, in what context - no where close to it. And yep, that may (or may not) apply to every other type of edit - bad or good, regardless of housemate. (the prime example being not one hm ever mentioning Jay putting his crap in the freezer - until Aaron referred to it subtly in the diary room). such an incident happens and there is not one utter word, not a sentence by a full house of hms regarding the incident, nor in having the freezer removed, or discussing what happened to the contents, if BB refilled it with the same foodstuff that had to be destroyed.....not a single word was uttered. That's the converse side: ie a good edit.

We do! we know full well what was said, the question is was there something missing that would redefine the meaning of the conversation. Given the edits this year it's possible there may have been but you still have to explain Harry's line "Attention to detail is unreal" this referred to the way BB has been editing the show makes no sense.


Anyhow i don't think were going to get anywhere down that route so can you see Faye's Mums position here, if she had seen all the above can you see how mad she would be. Given that you think BB has been chopped up to have a go at Aaron?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

We do! we know full well what was said, the question is was there something missing that would redefine the meaning of the conversation. Given the edits this year it's possible there may have been but you still have to explain Harry's line "Attention to detail is unreal" this referred to the way BB has been editing the show makes no sense.


Anyhow i don't think were going to get anywhere down that route so can you see Faye's Mums position here, if she had seen all the above can you see how mad she would be. Given that you think BB has been chopped up to have a go at Aaron?

I don't think the mother's position is anything other than a controlling woman who has some issues with one of her daughters possibly being happier away from her, and is spending time with a man who respects her, rather than treating her the way her very own sister does.

I have my opinion, you asked me to explain. I did. You don't agree. That's it really.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

We do! we know full well what was said, the question is was there something missing that would redefine the meaning of the conversation. Given the edits this year it's possible there may have been but you still have to explain Harry's line "Attention to detail is unreal" this referred to the way BB has been editing the show makes no sense.


Anyhow i don't think were going to get anywhere down that route so can you see Faye's Mums position here, if she had seen all the above can you see how mad she would be. Given that you think BB has been chopped up to have a go at Aaron?

How would Harry know how the show is edited?

[JTM45]

Talk about grasping at straws!!!

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by boomoo

How would Harry know how the show is edited?

That's my point, badly worded though. This being why it makes no sense to say he was referring to the way the Hm's were being edited.

I can only think he meant Aarons relationship with Faye as he ends up referring to Faye.

Some dispute that on the basis that they don't trust the conversation happened in that order or that parts were taken out to give a false meaning, so BB could "Get Aaron" again.

[Bill Carson]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Evidence 1
If you cast your mind back to the letters from home task in which Aaron was upset because of the Frosties fight the night before, he had a conversation with Faye in the bathroom.

He pointed out that she had been friendly with Louise since the stranded task, even though he had
taken the brunt of the blame for walking out of the Stranded task.

This sounded like Aaron guilt tripping Faye to me, and if i was mummy i'd be furious



Evidence 2


Aaron went on to say I do like Faye, to which Harry replied that's what worries me.

If i'd of heard this as a parent i'd of been jumping around with anger.

Can we see a Mums eye view here?

NO,any thread in any way that even remotely fingers Aaron will not be seen in any view.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Talk about grasping at straws!!!

Ok then, Harry wasn't referring to Faye when he said to Aaron

"The whole relationship thing, the attention to detail is unreal"

How do you like my straw grasping?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Ok then, Harry wasn't referring to Faye when he said to Aaron

"The whole relationship thing, the attention to detail is unreal"

How do you like my straw grasping?

You need new straws. Those ones aren't working too well. Mabye you've squished them to death !!

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You need new straws. Those ones aren't working too well. Mabye you've squished them to death !!

Clarification please and yes i did watch the show?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Clarification please and yes i did watch the show?

I didn't ask if you watched the show. I'm not particularly interested if you watch all, little or none - makes no difference to me.

If I need to clarify the straws, let me put it to you that sometimes, defending the indefensible isn't always the best choice -simply because there is such little substance. It's your choice, and you have your own view, which as much as I may respect you for sticking to your guns, I totally disagree with you.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I didn't ask if you watched the show. I'm not particularly interested if you watch all, little or none - makes no difference to me.

If I need to clarify the straws, let me put it to you that sometimes, defending the indefensible isn't always the best choice -simply because there is such little substance. It's your choice, and you have your own view, which as much as I may respect you for sticking to your guns, I totally disagree with you.

No comment will do thanks.

[Calliekins]

lets face it.... in the end only the housemates know the full truth.... us watching will never get to know EXACTLY what happens or what is said in or out of context

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Calliekins

lets face it.... in the end only the housemates know the full truth.... us watching will never get to know EXACTLY what happens or what is said in or out of context

I think if there was LF the edits in the main show would be holdable to account.

At the moment the Editing Team are to powerful and if you've ever watched Bots then you'll of seen the team, they are muppets of the highest order.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

No comment will do thanks.

You asked for clarification, I provided you with it.

[JTM45]

The housemates didn't know what her mum was talking about and we, (the viewers) don't know what she's talking about and we've seen exactly the same footage as she has.

It looks to me like Jem's just got all spiteful because she usually gets her own way and because Aaron hasn't let her have her own way she's making stuff up and swearing to Faye that 'stuff' has happened which (ever so conveniently for her) she can't talk about.

It was nice to see Faye/Jem's mum being told what the viewers think of her daughter and her huge biased opinions on BBBOTS. Stupid, spiteful bint!!!!

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by JTM45

The housemates didn't know what her mum was talking about and we, (the viewers) don't know what she's talking about and we've seen exactly the same footage as she has.

It looks to me like Jem's just got all spiteful because she usually gets her own way and because Aaron hasn't let her have her own way she's making stuff up and swearing to Faye that 'stuff' has happened which (ever so conveniently for her) she can't talk about.

It was nice to see Faye/Jem's mum being told what the viewers think of her daughter and her huge biased opinions on BBBOTS. Stupid, spiteful bint!!!!

To an extent yes, but you do see a lot of extra footage on the net though so you could say Tibb members get to see more of what's going on.

Also there were 5 voters nominating for Aaron tonight, all giving similar reasons, are they all spiteful bints? or is there another explanation.

One explanation is Aaron is using Faye
Another explanation is BB is Editing him to look bad.

I don't blame Faye's mum here.

[terryecosse]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Also there were 5 voters nominating for Aaron tonight, all giving similar reasons, are they all spiteful bints? or is there another explanation.

The other explanation is the production team telling them who to vote for and what to say.

As they say up here in Glasgow, "I smell sh!te".

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by terryecosse

The other explanation is the production team telling them who to vote for and what to say.

As they say up here in Glasgow, "I smell sh!te".

Not for me, far to risky, and would be against the law i'd guess.

Makes a great Theory though to add to the rest.

[Raven]

The blowing hot and cold, screwing with her emotions causing her to over-react and look bad, the fact he is so OBVIOUSLY playing a game with her.... which started with Tom, upgraded to Faye, tried to upgrade to maisy but aaron found she wasn't as vulnerable to his manipulation as he found faye was so he bounced back to her

Plenty for a parent to distrust and dispise when they see such a predator reeling in their daughter!

I know I'd react similarly if it was my son in there being treated like that by some femme-fatale (He's only slightly younger than Faye is!), I'd be voting the bitch out, just like faye's mum voted against aaron and for similar reasons.

[Vicky.]

I have 2 grown up children, a son and daughter and I have never and would never interfere in their relationships. My job as a mother was to raise them to be independent adults capable of making their own mistakes and decisions.

I will always support them even if I don't agree with their decisions and I would always be there to pick up the pieces but I would never interfere and I would certainly never mess with my child's mind like that on national television. If you love your children you allow them to have their own opinions and you respect those opinions even if you don't agree.

From somewhere else. I agree with this post 100%. This is how a good parent would think IMO