[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

lets just say who ever wins,its not going to change our lifes in any way,and all too soon there will be more housemates for us to have opinions on,

Quoted for truth.

Indeed: it's adding to the fun in the last 2 weeks of the show, and there is not a thing wrong with that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MarcusLloydAK

I thought she was! :P hmm, well on the one where she's in the black room, i can't remember the official one before she went in.

She said she would never have sex in the house and she was just a normal girl!! well sorry she isn't normal to think that wiping your ass on someones pillowcase romantic

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well maybe he had those opinions all along and it's only now that we realised about them?

His best friend in there was definitely Anton when we all thought it was Aaron..then it was Alex. I thought all along that Aaron had dumped Harry in the top trumps game. He lost trust in him after that imo.

Harry lost total closeness with Aaron because Aaron got close to Faye, no matter what else, Harry told Faye that Aaron really liked her, however even in the house when he was talking to Aaron as to his relationship with Faye and when Aaron said he was falling for her, Harry said ''well that's what worries me''.

I am disappointed with Harry's comments since coming out but even more so at his Louise comments, in his parting message he spoke directly to her saying he had never said or thought she was in any way thick, I don't care for Louise but she was really pleased to hear that.

Contrast that though with his comments on bbbots last night where he was saying and agreeing she was totally thick. I have no time for that nonsense I'm afraid no matter how much I liked Harry.

[Novo]

It will triple my votes

[Ammi]

I have no interest in what the H.M's say when they come out of the house..they had their chance when they were in there..I'm sure Harry's just trying to earn a few pennies to buy his golden kettle..

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Ammi

I have no interest in what the H.M's say when they come out of the house..they had their chance when they were in there..I'm sure Harry's just trying to earn a few pennies to buy his golden kettle..

A lot of truth in this one Ammi. He's out of the running to be winner, and like every other ex-hmate now, he's doing what he can to keep himself connected to the show - by whatever means.

He's been a game player all along himself so he cannot fault or criticise anyone else for doing it..... he's a bit miffed that he was outsmarted - that's all it is.

Look what all this type of thing did for Rebeckah - her turning hot and cold with Aden - look how that completely backfired on her. Harry needs to be careful otherwise, game playing or not: he's going to lose a lot of respect if he over eggs the pudding.

Give Anton his dues: even HE came round to Aaron and said all credit to him (Aaron).

But in essence: Harry's out of the game, there's is still lots to play for and he's now excluded from that. You can understand why the chap feels miffed, everso slightly.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

A lot of truth in this one Ammi. He's out of the running to be winner, and like every other ex-hmate now, he's doing what he can to keep himself connected to the show - by whatever means.

He's been a game player all along himself so he cannot fault or criticise anyone else for doing it..... he's a bit miffed that he was outsmarted - that's all it is.

Look what all this type of thing did for Rebeckah - her turning hot and cold with Aden - look how that completely backfired on her. Harry needs to be careful otherwise, game playing or not: he's going to lose a lot of respect if he over eggs the pudding.

Give Anton his dues: even HE came round to Aaron and said all credit to him (Aaron).

But in essence: Harry's out of the game, there's is still lots to play for and he's now excluded from that. You can understand why the chap feels miffed, everso slightly.

Yes Pyr, I can..but sour grapes can be so unattractive when they're smeared all over your mush.....

[karezza]

Harry is well on the way to becoming BB12's most hated housemate.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Yes Pyr, I can..but sour grapes can be so unattractive when they're smeared all over your mush.....

The are indeed - but it's self inflicted so if he wants to continue.....

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by karezza

Harry is well on the way to becoming BB12's most hated housemate.

Again, if he undoes all the good he gained from weeks in the house - it's self inflicted and of his own making.

I somehow think that he won't give a fig either way!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Standard reply from you I see when you've made a 'wee hash' of it.

Harry's entitled to say /do what he likes.

It will only serve to push Aaron fans into overdrive to get Aaron to at least the top three.

That should push Harry's nose out of joint, just a little bit more!

Tally ho!

Is this the vid you wanted Pyramid?

Youtube video

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Is this the vid you wanted Pyramid?

Youtube video

that's the very one!

Watch the 3 times he touches his nose.....

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

His parting words to Aaron were, love you man

Well yeah this is odd too. Surely if it was all a game(him being nice to get onside) then once he was evicted there was no reason to keep up the pretense? Same with his goodbye message.

[Bollo]

Whatever he may have said ( and to be honest i really don't think anything he said was that bad) I still think he was a really good housemate.Now he has gone I will support Aaron and Harry's comments will not affect that for me.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

what an awful thing to say. I hope that's not the general opinion of the Aaron fan's. Harry was playing the game just like anyone else, Alex clearly loved him.

She did but I bet your bottom dollar he wont invite her out with his mates when she is out!!!

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

She did but I bet your bottom dollar he wont invite her out with his mates when she is out!!!

No probably not let's face it

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Harry sees the truth of Aaron and speaks without malice or dislike.

It's a shame though that hearing the truth just makes some retreat further into denial to support entrenched stances.

I suppose it depends which of 'Harrys' truths you choose to believe cos he seems full of contradictions...you are believing what you WANT to believe. His behaviour and comments have been contradictory thats why many see him as a backstabber.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Bojangles

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

But you dont...thats just the point. When you say he isnt going to lie on TV...well he has. He told Faye that Aaron was genuine about his feelings for her...then said the opposite when he came out

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Bojangles

I don't see it as betrayal at all.Harry spoke the truth,he wasn't going to lie on tv when asked what he thought.Admittedly he could have held back on some of his comments but that's Harry, you get what you see.

dont you see the difficulty though when a liar is exposed?

You don't know quite what story they spin is true. The original version, or the newer, more updated version.

Such is the nature of a liar: you don't know what is the truth and what is not, especially in a scenario like BB, when the viewers are fed only the smallest crumbs.

It puts into question anything that that person then says.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I suppose it depends which of 'Harrys' truths you choose to believe cos he seems full of contradictions...you are believing what you WANT to believe. His behaviour and comments have been contradictory thats why many see him as a backstabber.

Harry was hardly likely to tell Faye that he thought Aaron was playing her was he?
She would have been straight over to Aaron telling him what Harry said which would have caused problems for Aaron & Harry so i can see why Harry said what he said.

[Bill Carson]

It seems harry had aarons back in the house and played along with the fact that he knew he was using faye,but is outside now and can just be himself and tell the truth,nothing wrong with that,almost all the other H/M's have had the same opinion of aaron.

It was probably not something that he could respect that's all,and maybe he just wants to disassociate himself from it now he is on the outside.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Harry was hardly likely to tell Faye that he thought Aaron was playing her was he?
She would have been straight over to Aaron telling him what Harry said which would have caused problems for Aaron & Harry so i can see why Harry said what he said.

So why didnt he just stick with the line of....wait til you get out and take it from there...he said it and he didnt need or have to but he did...then says the opposite when he gets out.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

It seems harry had aarons back in the house and played along with the fact that he knew he was using faye,but is outside now and can just be himself and tell the truth,nothing wrong with that,almost all the other H/M's have had the same opinion of aaron.

It was probably not something that he could respect that's all,and maybe he just wants to disassociate himself from it now he is on the outside.

Which there is not one thing wrong with - at all.

In fact, didn't Aaron say much the same thing - that these will be people he will never hope to ever have to meet or spend time with again after the show.

To me, that the sign of a person who entered the house for the experience - rather than it being a springboard to zlister land.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I suppose it depends which of 'Harrys' truths you choose to believe cos he seems full of contradictions...you are believing what you WANT to believe. His behaviour and comments have been contradictory thats why many see him as a backstabber.

He is full of contradictions because... HE PLAYED THE GAME.

That means he said different things as required to different people. I thought we were all meant to love game players?? Or just game players called Aaron?

If your gonna hate on Harry for playing the game,you better be ready to condemn Aaron for exactly the same.

Because not to would be a contradiction.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by vesavius

He is full of contradictions because... HE PLAYED THE GAME.

That means he said different things as required to different people. I thought we were all meant to love game players?? Or just game players called Aaron?

If your gonna hate on Harry for playing the game,you better be ready to condemn Aaron for exactly the same.

Because not to would be a contradiction.

I dont hate Harry....I was disappointed cos I thought he had more to him. Neither am I disappointed that he was playing a game because I think they all are...some better than others. I liked Harry...he was my second fave but I dont like the way he has 'turned' on Aaron. You know I like Aaron and he has played the game well but when he says he likes people I believe he means it. He said it to Rebekah then off camera said he couldnt stand her...it was funny and thats how he played the game...but at least we knew he didnt really like her. If Aaron comes out of the house and dismisses Faye and stabs her in the back and does the same to Harry then I will hold my hands up and say I have been completely fooled....but I TRULY believe it wont happen cos I think he is a really decent guy.