[Marsh.]

The irony of the man in that original video, was he was standing there speaking English. lol

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Some black people get a pass, because of the history. The whole slavery thing was kind of a big deal. Plus the whole segregation thing that existed just 40 years ago.

At the risk of sounding a little questionable...I dont think comments like this help anything (though I am aware it may be in jest...even if it is, some others do actually think like this...have seen similar said before)

The way I see it is...black people want to be totally equal...and rightly so. However, saying its ok for black people to be racist 'because of the history' while its not ok for white people to be racist...well thats not equal is it? Letting one get away with being ignorant while blasting the other for the same thing (not saying anyone should be 'allowed' to be racist though...having a bit of a hard time putting what I actually mean into words )

I actually dont understand why skin colour matters to anyone anyway...its only skin

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

At the risk of sounding a little questionable...I dont think comments like this help anything (though I am aware it may be in jest...even if it is, some others do actually think like this...have seen similar said before)

The way I see it is...black people want to be totally equal...and rightly so. However, saying its ok for black people to be racist 'because of the history' while its not ok for white people to be racist...well thats not equal is it? Letting one get away with being ignorant while blasting the other for the same thing (not saying anyone should be 'allowed' to be racist though...having a bit of a hard time putting what I actually mean into words )

I actually dont understand why skin colour matters to anyone anyway...its only skin

No, I agree with you completely.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

At the risk of sounding a little questionable...I dont think comments like this help anything (though I am aware it may be in jest...even if it is, some others do actually think like this...have seen similar said before)

The way I see it is...black people want to be totally equal...and rightly so. However, saying its ok for black people to be racist 'because of the history' while its not ok for white people to be racist...well thats not equal is it? Letting one get away with being ignorant while blasting the other for the same thing (not saying anyone should be 'allowed' to be racist though...having a bit of a hard time putting what I actually mean into words )

I actually dont understand why skin colour matters to anyone anyway...its only skin

Just about sums it up nicely.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

At the risk of sounding a little questionable...I dont think comments like this help anything (though I am aware it may be in jest...even if it is, some others do actually think like this...have seen similar said before)

The way I see it is...black people want to be totally equal...and rightly so. However, saying its ok for black people to be racist 'because of the history' while its not ok for white people to be racist...well thats not equal is it? Letting one get away with being ignorant while blasting the other for the same thing (not saying anyone should be 'allowed' to be racist though...having a bit of a hard time putting what I actually mean into words )

I actually dont understand why skin colour matters to anyone anyway...its only skin

Exactly, why should we all be judged or given rights to anything based on the actions of our ancestors.

But, I've only just realised this is another thread turned into a USA vs Rest of the World thread with lostalex. lol

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

Black people should thank white people for introducing them to modern civilization

When European explorers first went to Africa the people there were still stuck in biblical times, living in little villages, fighting and eating each other

Black people live in 21st century Earth because of the white man

The only reason black people still bitch and moan about the slave trade is because they have a huge chip on their shoulder about their own standard of living. They blame the white man because they are an easy scapegoat.

Would not be able to do any bible bashing singing if it was not for the white man spreading the gospel either.

Thank Jesus and thank the white man too for improving your life

You deserve to be banned.

This thread needs to be locked. It was done to flame bait.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

The irony of the man in that original video, was he was standing there speaking English. lol

How so? Do you know where English derives from, hon?

[letmein]

Originally Posted by lostalex

there are not concrete nationalities, ethnicities or races. sorry, but it's just false.

Jersey Shore? are they Italian? are they White? are they American?

It's all stupid choices to segregate yourself.

If you believe you have a race than you are voluntarily participating in segregation.

So, what are we suppose to put on a census form?

[letmein]

Originally Posted by lostalex

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.

Latinos are categorized by the US government with blacks, Asians, Natives, etc. That's where the confusion lies.

I've never heard Jews claim "racism". I've heard "antisemitism", even though Semites are Arab.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by letmein

You deserve to be banned.

This thread needs to be locked. It was done to flame bait.

I agree with you. He should receive a permanent ban. I'm surprised he wasn't even suspended.

[lime]

Originally Posted by lostalex

white is a race? So then why is it called "racism" when people discriminate against Mexicans? Mexico is a majority WHITE european race country, but it's called racism if you don't like mexicans.

explain that to me.

or when the Nazi's killed the jews. the jews were white, but it's called racism...???

or when south africans kill zimbaweans, they are both black, but it's called racism...

i don't understand.

WTF
This is the second time I have seen post crap about SA.The last time you claimed we all spoke English.Have you heard our national anthem.??
Take some of your own advice and educate yourself.
Not all South Africans are black.When A South African kills a Zimbawean its called murder not racism.

[SoBig]

lostalex is a joke of a poster. I don't even know why I even bother responding to any of his posts.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lime

WTF
This is the second time I have seen post crap about SA.The last time you claimed we all spoke English.Have you heard our national anthem.??
Take some of your own advice and educate yourself.
Not all South Africans are black.

When A South African kills a Zimbawean its called murder not racism .

Who do you think you are to bring some intellect / common sense to this thread. How very DARE you.




ps.... when I read his post on this one, I too thought back to the 'SA speak English' convo that we had not too long ago. Some people never learn eh!

[Shasown]

I love this forum, intellectual arguments between equals, and arguments between numpties. And everything in between.

I suppose it would help if cultural differences and the understanding of the terms "racist, racism" etc, were taken into account.

There are a wide variety of definitions of the term racist for example, the UK legal definition, the UK socio-political definition, the term as understood by the general populace, the UN's definition of the word, thats without taking into account the definition of the terms held in other countries/areas.

We should also bear in mind that usage of a word evolves particularly in modern climes with the introduction of the internet and rapid international communication media.

But going back to the OP's original question, yes the man is racist but probably not the most racist person on earth.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by letmein

How so? Do you know where English derives from, hon?

The main components of the language are from Anglo saxon, French, Latin and Ancient Greek.....hon.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SoBig

lostalex is a joke of a poster. I don't even know why I even bother responding to any of his posts.

Well do me a favour then, and DON'T respond, because, believe me i have just as little respect for you, my dear.

I've never seen you post anything even remotley insightful or interesting, you seem to just be reactionary and frankly i wouldn't be surprised to find you that you are a 13 y/o girl. You seem like the kind of person that actually VOTES on x-factor.

Everything i've said i've backed up with actual cultural experience and reason and logic. unlike you. You are the one trolling threads just casting judgements on people instead of actually debating ideas.

Please try to keep score, because yur LOSING.

[SoBig]

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SoBig

again you have nothing of substance to say, just a cartoon....

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by lostalex

again you have nothing of substance to say, just a cartoon....

Actually I'm still waiting for you to respond to this post.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...5&postcount=99

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SoBig

So you are telling me Americans don't call them Indians? I know the Europeans started it, but its the Americans that continued the thread. In Canada, Caribbean and in Mexico they don't call them that anymore.

Canada the government might not call them that, but i guess you never bothered to research what those peoples actually call themselves, did you?


Actually, in reference to the natives in all of those countries: There are plenty of communities that do in fact still call themselve's "indians" just because the governments don't.... well, it guess you've decided that you'd rather believe those governments rather than the actual PEOPLES that we are talking about.

That says a lot about you.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Actually I'm still waiting for you to respond to this post.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...5&postcount=99

It's interesting that you've targeted me specifically, and somehow you think our conversations in this thread some how have any relevance at all to other threads. I respond to threads, and topics, not to people. I'd recommend you do the same from now on. I've never made this personal, and the fact that you are targeting me over multiple threads, is totally unacceptable.

Each thread is completely separate. What i say in this thread has nothing to to do with any other thread.


That being said, I've responded to the thread you highlighted.

In the future, if you'd like me to reply to one of your comments, please ask me in PM and i'll get back to you.

Frankly it's obscene and rude to request my comments in the public forum. That's why we have PM's. Get some class.

[Pyramid*]

Post Number 98 on this thread

Originally Posted by lostalex

you're an idiot. indians as refered to about native americans aplied to canada and mexico and all parts of the America's.. and AMERICANS didn't invent the word "indian's" for the natives, EUROPEANS did, so wtf are you taliing about??

I love how America get's the blame for the death of natives, and slavery, when it was EUROPEANS that did it, not Americans. Follow the money.

You really are so uneducated and ill-informed. It's pointless to talk to you if you don't even know the basics of history.

Post Number 99 on this thread

Originally Posted by SoBig

So you are telling me Americans don't call them Indians? I know the Europeans started it, but its the Americans that continued the thread. In Canada, Caribbean and in Mexico they don't call them that anymore.

Originally Posted by SoBig

Actually I'm still waiting for you to respond to this post.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...5&postcount=99

Originally Posted by lostalex

It's interesting that you've targeted me specifically, and somehow you think our conversations in this thread some how have any relevance at all to other threads. I respond to threads, and topics, not to people. I'd recommend you do the same from now on. I've never made this personal, and the fact that you are targeting me over multiple threads, is totally unacceptable.

Each thread is completely separate. What i say in this thread has nothing to to do with any other thread.


That being said, I've responded to the thread you highlighted.

In the future, if you'd like me to reply to one of your comments, please ask me in PM and i'll get back to you.

Frankly it's obscene and rude to request my comments in the public forum. That's why we have PM's. Get some class.

I've tried to make this as simple as humanely possible lostalex since I have no clue where or how you seem to think you are being targetted, or that Sobig is referring to topics from other threads, or how their last comment to you can EVER be construed as being rude or obscene.

See post 98 above. Your comment from this thread. Inclusive of your own insults and derogatory comments towards other fms here.

See Post 99 above. SoBig's reply to your comment: ie: post 98.

You didn't reply to that post, or the question that SoBig asked -hence why they have reminded you by the use of one sentence that they were still awaiting a response.

You have been the one in dialogue back and forth with Sobig and other fms here, on a topic contained within this very thread, since those post numbers quoted above: and you have, in just about every post, either been rude, or have insulted them - including referring to them as trolling in your own post number 116:-

You are the one trolling threads just casting judgements on people instead of actually debating ideas.

They are not targetting you, they are simply asking if you would address a question that they posed to you earlier, on a subject you were discussing with them, that you have not responded to.

Your latest reply is bizarre to say the very least, not least your denial as to you having not made things personal.

You have done so, and repeatedly with the insults I've highlighted above. If anyone should be requesting this be taken off to PM, it would be Sobig, and not you, as it is you who is the one insulting others at every given opportunity.

I agree with others who have intimated the same on here - this thread should be locked especially when in almost every post of yours, you use it as some shallow excuse to insult just about any forum member you care to, and appear to be allowed to do continue doing.

[InOne]

Edit: Nevermind

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

according to this one black people can't be racist.

Youtube video

"black people can't be racist because we don't own sh8t...white people own everything..what the **** can we do to you.you have all the power."

"if the majority of the population are white people..y'all have to take the blame for everything....wh white why white people.....cause y'all own everything..." lol

Keep in mind his channel is kind of comedic so not sure if he's serious most of the time

[InOne]

You could've just thought it, not bumped it...