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Old 18-07-2003, 01:41 PM #1
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When Helen and Paul got it together, I did not notice the attitude of "We hate Helen because she has put her grubby tarty trotters on the Dreamy Paul Clarke"

With the Paul fan club I still do not see that.

When it comes to Nush, it's a different story, judging by the vitriol going her way at present.

Would anyone care to explain this double standard

Is this not proving Federico 100% right when he said all women are jealous of other women ? Do you really want to prove Federico right ?
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but Helen was the most geniune person who was loved VERY much!

Nush is basically not! She has flirted her way through all the boys and has ended up with Scott x Helen was also not afraid to show her true feelings about Paul and especially her relationship with Big G! x
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Oh dear sticks that spoon must be getting pretty heavy to stir with by now.

Steph has proven your point and yes to add to the stir I agree with you......
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I don't know about the comparisons with Helen and Paul but I have to say I agree with Sticks to a certain extent.

The female housemates are being judged much more harshly, and forgiven for their flaws much less, than the male HMs. It's not as clear-cut as Sticks makes out - a girl could survive in an eviction vote against a boy but it's less likely to happen.

I would definately like to see Nush stay tonight even though I have to admit she can be annoying - like that laugh she does after she says something and acting like a little girl. But she is genuine and Nush-Scott might progress next week.
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An example is Justine. when she was seen to be two faced she was condemd for it. With the sentiment "get her out" But when Cameron is two faced and there are many samples of that. Then few seem to bother and call for his eviction. There is positive victimisation of the girls in that respect.
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Nush has done what she thinks is needed to stay in, flirted with all the boys, as for helen it was totally different, there was true feelings there
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Equally Cameron and Scott have done what they think is needed to stay in by being nice to all and saundry for as much as there acting ability will allow.

There is a thin line between playing the "game" and being two faced in the true sense of the word.

We the public cant have it both ways. We either like people to play a game or we like people to sacrifice there chances of winning in the name of honesty. Frankly I think these people have a right to "play the game" without being too harshly judged by the public. If there were no "Players" who would want to watch!!!!!!
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Sticks has a point and I really wish people would get a grip and understand this is only a game show. Booing and heckling HMs is unacceptable behaviour whatever they may have done while in the house. And the reasons they may have for doing the same to Nush are simply vacuous and unjustified.

Nush has been harmlessly flirting particularly with Scott who she has bonded well with, and judging from what her step-Dad and Yoga trainer said on RI:SE this morning has a crush on.
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I want Nush to be evicted tonight because I'm not a fan of Nush, I wouldn't go as far as saying I dislike her and it has nothing to do with being jealous,everyone has housemates that they relate to or that entertain us and some that don't.It has nothing to do with her flirting with Scott,I felt the same indifference towards her before things developed with Scott.
I think at this stage it is sad to see anyone leave but out of the two housemates up for eviction Nush would be the one I would choose,nothing to do with her gender!!simply that I'm not a fan.
I certainly think it is terrible that anyone gets booed in bb it is only a game and everyone adds to the show in different ways to make it a success

If the nominations had been different this week I'm sure I would have felt differently and Nush would not have been my first choice to goI would have probably wanted Ray to go after his behaviour the other night
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I dont think there is any comparison at all between Helen and Nush.

Helen had personality, she made people laugh with her, she was never anything but herself and we all got so involved with what was going on between her and Paul that there was never any question of being anything but pleased and happy for the pair of them.

Nush on the other hand has flirted with every bloke in the house and finally has settled on Scott. I dont feel she is being completely herself.

But then again it is true that girls in BB always have a hard time of it. Yes there are double standards cos most of the voters are girls who will object to girls flirting but will think if a boy does it that is OK.
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