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Jake. · 22-02-2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Theres a huge difference between natural death and simply taking your own because you feel there is no other way out.

And of course it's a waste of life. How can it not be?

Just because there is abundance of life on the planet, it doesn't excuse the situation.

The mans wife would of been going through if not more so what he was going through. And forgive me he couldn't of been in that much of a bad state to update his Facebook status mere minutes before he hung himself.

Life is a precious thing. Good things happen and bad things happen. It's what defines us and I simply refuse to accept this immoral action as anything less than selfish.

I'm sorry, I don't have any sympathy for people that kill themselves and leave devastation and pain behind.

Answer me this Glenn.... what do you think of the boy who killed himself (the one who was bullied)?

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Pugh

Glenn, you are being EXTREMELY rude and offending many people on here (I being one of those)
If you have nothing NICE to say, GET OF THE DAMN FORUM. your so inconciderate and rude.

In what way exactly am I being rude? Ive been called ignorant throughout because of my opinion.

Shaun · 22-02-2012, 07:15 PM

Making jokes about the widow having to dig holes? No not rude at all.

Jamie. · 22-02-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

In what way exactly am I being rude? Ive been called ignorant throughout because of my opinion.

Keep your opinions to yourself if you know they will effect others

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JH95

Answer me this Glenn.... what do you think of the boy who killed himself (the one who was bullied)?

The same as the father. I don't condone suicide. It's awful that the child was bullied and disgraceful that it wasn't picked up.

Needless to say suicide is not an option

CharlieO · 22-02-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Because I knew her?

Clearly you did not. People can hide things easily. Not one of my close friends know about my depressive past but they would all say they knew me.
You are ignorant beyond belief it is incomprehensible.

Jamie. · 22-02-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

The same as the father. I don't condone suicide. It's awful that the child was bullied and disgraceful that it wasn't picked up.

Needless to say suicide is not an option

And what do you suggest otherwise?

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Making jokes about the widow having to dig holes? No not rude at all.

And? It's no different to having Whitney Housten on your deathlist.

Jake. · 22-02-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

The same as the father. I don't condone suicide. It's awful that the child was bullied and disgraceful that it wasn't picked up.

Needless to say suicide is not an option

So was the child also selfish? Or were the teenagers who made his life un-liveable the selfish ones?

CharlieO · 22-02-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

The same as the father. I don't condone suicide. It's awful that the child was bullied and disgraceful that it wasn't picked up.

Needless to say suicide is not an option

So you would prefer that boy and that father to just live in suffering and torture from their own minds?

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO

Clearly you did not. People can hide things easily. Not one of my close friends know about my depressive past but they would all say they knew me.
You are ignorant beyond belief it is incomprehensible.

Well clearly I did. And exactly how am I ignorant? Because I fail to be a sheep and say exactly what's on my mind?

22-02-2012, 07:21 PM

I don't agree with suicide and have some sympathy with the case Glenn is forwarding here. However, it's impossible to know what is actually happening inside the head of the person concerned, unless you (rather impossibly) walk a mile in their shoes.

No one knows how the connecting circuits of our brains, are firing/misfiring in the heads of others.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JH95

So was the child also selfish? Or were the teenagers who made his life un-liveable the selfish ones?

Erm both were.

CharlieO · 22-02-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Well clearly I did. And exactly how am I ignorant? Because I fail to be a sheep and say exactly what's on my mind?

You cannot even contemplate the fact that someone you 'knew' had other things going on that she wouldn't discuss with you which would put her in a pit of helplessness. No not ignorant at all.

Jake. · 22-02-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Erm both were.

Right......... clearly most on here will have to agree to disagree with you.

Angus · 22-02-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Pugh

And what do you suggest otherwise?

It's obvious, the alternative on offer seems to be a lifetime of unimaginable emotional and mental suffering which can never be assuaged. We all lead very different lives depending on the interaction of so many environmental, circumstantial, familial and genetic factors. How on earth can anyone say there is a "one size fits all" solution to such an emotive and personal issue? Having an open mind on the subject does not mean it is condoned - just understood.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JH95

Right......... clearly most on here will have to agree to disagree with you.

Do you disagree then?

The child was selfish to kill himself and the bullies were just as selfish for causing such upset.

I fail to understand why anyone is condoning this, but to instead insult someone who disagrees with suicide. And I'm being rude??

Jamie. · 22-02-2012, 07:30 PM

I know how this kid felt, nearly.
I was not bullied for being gay, because I'm not.
But I was bullied because of a disability and once, just ONCE felt suicidal.
And it's horrible, a horrible feeling.
So you, Glenn, have NO right to say that its selfish.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO

You cannot even contemplate the fact that someone you 'knew' had other things going on that she wouldn't discuss with you which would put her in a pit of helplessness. No not ignorant at all.

No I'm not. She killed herself because she wanted to show her parents a lesson. She was a happy girl, pretty much the perfect life, boyfriend a decent job.

I think you're the one being ignorant. But hey, what do I know.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Pugh

I know how this kid felt, nearly.
I was not bullied for being gay, because I'm not.
But I was bullied because of a disability and once, just ONCE felt suicidal.
And it's horrible, a horrible feeling.
So you, Glenn, have NO right to say that its selfish.

I'm human so have the basic right of freedom of speech.

Jamie. · 22-02-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

I'm human do have the basic right of freedom of speech.

In this case, no.

Glenn. · 22-02-2012, 07:33 PM

Yes I do.

It's my opinion. And it's an opinion that echoes across the world.

CharlieO · 22-02-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn

No I'm not. She killed herself because she wanted to show her parents a lesson. She was a happy girl, pretty much the perfect life, boyfriend a decent job.

I think you're the one being ignorant. But hey, what do I know.

That is what you think/were told. She would have had other things going on and will have had a mental defect where by the chemicals in her brain were not functioning correctly.

We are not condoning suicide but sometimes it is an option, if someone is living an amazingly painful life with no joy and no hope, why should that person carry on living it?