[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

My view? Hmm...

"No...I don't wish to explain."

Is that a valid answer?

I depends..If you are just goading me for my comment on another thread then I hope that is recognised...You have added nothing to this debate....to me or anyone else to be fair.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by kizzy

JF.....Seriously I am at a loss....
There is no fight don't worry....It is a difference of opinion is all
You can not write off all teachers for one incident can you?...hmmm?

I was only joking on the fight part.

But this isn't the first time i've seen incompetence off Teachers, if they want to be taken seriously then they need to improve dramatically as I shouldn't have had to help my friend out like that, it's suppose to be the Teachers job to sort situations like that out but she couldn't be bothered.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

I was only joking on the fight part.

But this isn't the first time i've seen incompetence off Teachers, if they want to be taken seriously then they need to improve dramatically as I shouldn't have had to help my friend out like that, it's suppose to be the Teachers job to sort situations like that out but she couldn't be bothered.

JF. You know the first rule of Fight Club is ......sssshhhhh.

That's them bloody teachers these days, standards are slipping !! tee hee

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I depends..If you are just goading me for my comment on another thread then I hope that is recognised...You have added nothing to this debate....to me or anyone else to be fair.

Not at all. I just find you rude as I said after reading the thread and others. Did not really want to start a new thread to state my observations. And I am aware I have not added anything to this debate. You hope it is recognised? I'm sure you do.....

[Mystic Mock]

Im laughing at how everyone's viewing this thread but not posting.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Im laughing at how everyone's viewing this thread but not posting.

I just checked when I saw your post on here !! (was away looking for chocolates)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Kizzy, quit with the baiting. That's all you are doing now. Take your need for a fight elsewhere, seriously I CBA with it.

I am not, I don't want a fight all i want is to have my view. You have yours and I respect that...I have done nothing but defend my opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

JF. You know the first rule of Fight Club is ......sssshhhhh.

That's them bloody teachers these days, standards are slipping !! tee hee

I don't feel they are...JF's case was an isolated incident...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

Im laughing at how everyone's viewing this thread but not posting.

Are they? I wonder why that is ......

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I don't feel they are...JF's case was an isolated incident...

I think Pyramid was joking Kizzy.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Are they? I wonder why that is ......

On what I saw yes they was.

The debating on here is crazy lol.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Not at all. I just find you rude as I said after reading the thread and others. Did not really want to start a new thread to state my observations. And I am aware I have not added anything to this debate. You hope it is recognised? I'm sure you do.....

I am sorry you find me rude, If there is anything I can do to change your mind please let me know...Thankyou

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

I think Pyramid was joking Kizzy.

Really?...Oh great I love jokes

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

I think Pyramid was joking Kizzy.

You thought correct JF. It was indeed reference to your teachers not teaching you the first rule of Fight Club. Bad teachers. Bad.

[Vicky.]

Very rare I agree with strikes but this time I do.

It is ridiculous (imo) that a teacher can be threatened with losing their job because kids dont listen. You could follow the curriculum perfectly but if you have a couple of ignorant twats in your class who simply dont want to listen, you can be penalized for it? Unfair.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Very rare I agree with strikes but this time I do.

It is ridiculous (imo) that a teacher can be threatened with losing their job because kids dont listen. You could follow the curriculum perfectly but if you have a couple of ignorant twats in your class who simply dont want to listen, you can be penalized for it? Unfair.

Good point vicky, There is too much finger pointing at teachers more emphasis needs to be on reforming the failing system we have, and having stricter rules on disapline.
Teachers are scared of the students in some areas.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Very rare I agree with strikes but this time I do.

It is ridiculous (imo) that a teacher can be threatened with losing their job because kids dont listen. You could follow the curriculum perfectly but if you have a couple of ignorant twats in your class who simply dont want to listen, you can be penalized for it? Unfair.

Oh don't get me wrong here: I agree re the few ignorant twat students - but that's not the main premise of the strike action:- and apart from which: that's not entirely down to the government - that's all to do with poor and ineffective managment of the school in question in how they address these types of idiot students (same as they same type are in jobs). It's bad managment - at all levels.

However, the main premise of the strike is financially related in respect of pension deals and a not altogether unrealistic tightening of financial belts - on salaries and in pension contributions being made - as well as roles being altered. That happens in any job: it's called changes in job description - and in most cases: it's entirely legal - you have the choice to accept those changed or not. Very rarely are such changes made to the point that they are unacceptable to people: and when they are, they tend to have been made to 'force out' the driftwood.

[Kizzy]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...s-7627009.html
QUOTE:
NUT members threatening regional days of action throughout England and Wales over increased pension contributions – which will see them facing cuts in their take-home pay for the first time in 80 years from this month – and plans to raise the pension age to 67.

Working harder , for less money, paying more in contributions , for much longer....
I call that pretty unacceptable.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Good point vicky, There is too much finger pointing at teachers more emphasis needs to be on reforming the failing system we have, and having stricter rules on disapline.
Teachers are scared of the students in some areas.

As you've said, using several hundred words, this strike is about increased pension contributions and doesn't really have anything to do with 'discipline'.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...s-7627009.html
QUOTE:
NUT members threatening regional days of action throughout England and Wales over increased pension contributions – which will see them facing cuts in their take-home pay for the first time in 80 years from this month – and plans to raise the pension age to 67.

Working harder , for less money, paying more in contributions , for much longer....
I call that pretty unacceptable.

I call it "what everyone else in the real world is having to do".

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

As you've said, using several hundred words, this strike is about increased pension contributions and doesn't really have anything to do with 'discipline'.

Pensions are the main issue...However they are not the ONLY issue.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I call it "what everyone else in the real world is having to do".

I call it an assault on those who educate the next generation.
Who will be the next the government target ...the 999 services is my guess, who will be the next to strike I wonder?
Further feelings of the union on Micheal Gove...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/...s-michael-gove

[Kizzy]

Further to the attack on pensions and government pressures on performance, the NUT are now to strike if faced with local payand performance related pay.
QUOTE:
The education secretary, Michael Gove, has asked the School Teachers' Review Body – which deals with pay and conditions – to look at the possibilities for making pay more "market-facing" and how to "strengthen the link" between pay and performance.

How will this work...Who will want to work in these underperforming schools?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...rike-local-pay

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by kizzy

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...s-7627009.html
QUOTE:
NUT members threatening regional days of action throughout England and Wales over increased pension contributions – which will see them facing cuts in their take-home pay for the first time in 80 years from this month – and plans to raise the pension age to 67.

Working harder , for less money, paying more in contributions , for much longer....
I call that pretty unacceptable.

Already addressed several pages ago and almost 80 odd posts back ...- but one of thoses ones that you conveniently didn't want to address.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...4&postcount=68

In this economic climate - one of the unions, NUT I think it was, revealed that the monthly wage cut which will show in wage packets next month is an average of £30 per month - they also quoted that it was the first time since 1930 , that public sectors had to take a 'cut' in salary. First since 1930 !!!!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Already addressed several pages ago and almost 80 odd posts back ...- but one of thoses ones that you conveniently didn't want to address.

What is your point?...That was during the depression.
Are you suggesting we are in a depression now?...If so do you not feel it odd that tax relief be given to high earners during a depression?...I do