[RodHull]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It's not chats, the blokes buy her "sexy clothes" and she "TRIES" them on for her clients..then what happens

Unlike you I dont base my opinions on assumptions, I base them on facts, the facts as they were presented in that show wasn't remotely like what you say. She basically chats to blokes for cash and they either pay her or buy her gifts... its weird and a little seedy/odd but its not a crime and the guys are hardly being conned they know nothing is gonna come from it.

Im assuming you hate all women who accept drinks in nightclubs off guys and the dont sleep with them, cause you know they must be 'playing them' right?

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by reece(:

It's not chats, the blokes buy her "sexy clothes" and she "TRIES" them on for her clients..then what happens

This is why the "she's not a sex worker or prostitute" defence that was so forthcoming this Sunday is such Bull.

How non sexual can a conversation remain when your a glamour model on camera begging for gifts. It's always gonna go there! At what point does she turn off!?

We can raise and educate girls to do so much better, value themselves more and stop encouraging this nonsense.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

This is why the "she's not a sex worker or prostitute" defence that was so forthcoming this Sunday is such Bull.

How non sexual can a conversation remain when your a glamour model on camera begging for gifts. It's always gonna go there! At what point does she turn off!?

We can raise and educate girls to do so much better, value themselves more and stop encouraging this nonsense.

Lovely how you assume to know anything about someones life without any actual proof. If someone can show me a video of these sessions that proves this is the case I might change my mind, but they dont exist, and on the internet thats rare, if they existed they'd be available all over youtube.

I think what really gets alot of womens backs up is the thought their blokes might be sad enough to chat to someone like her for money. Trying to make out shes a sex worker is pathetic, and shows a massive level of ignorance of the subject imo

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Seriously..!!! You are winding us all up with these posts yes !! You really cannot be serious with your comments above... I mean " ... The girl may be a slut but at least she is an honest slut" you're having a laugh.

Keep em coming I think your posts are hilarious.... !!!!

My point, just in case you didnt get it, (but I think you did and are only baiting me) is simple. There are several women in there that try and portray themselves as squeeky clean. Jasmine with Cowel, Rhiana with Kay etc. My point is at least Danica is open about her methods and gains. I see no difference in any of them, they are all tarts or opertunists and in one way or another make money from their bodies in different ways. I know which one I would throw my vote behind (the honest and open one) I dont however say I like or champion any of them, just being realistic.

[Big Brother Cartoons uk]

It is a crappy thing to do but there are many people happy to take from others, they just do it with people they know.

I just have so little respect for the men daft enough and desperate enough to buy her stuff. I knew a guy who very nearly sent money to some bird he was chatting to over the Internet before he found out she she was a scammer. Scammer or not, he was still about to send a few hundred quid to some total stranger on the hope she liked him enough to one day fly across the ocean and see him. Pathetic.

[Big Brother Cartoons uk]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

This is why the "she's not a sex worker or prostitute" defence that was so forthcoming this Sunday is such Bull.

How non sexual can a conversation remain when your a glamour model on camera begging for gifts. It's always gonna go there! At what point does she turn off!?

We can raise and educate girls to do so much better, value themselves more and stop encouraging this nonsense.

I agree, it's like the myth that lap dancers only take their top off and don't touch...

I went to a lap dancing club once, and not only do the girls get fully naked, they girate and slither all over the men and do a full on sex act on the floor which includes getting intimate with themselves. They have to go the extra mile to be 'chosen'.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

My point, just in case you didnt get it, (but I think you did and are only baiting me) is simple. There are several women in there that try and portray themselves as squeeky clean. Jasmine with Cowel, Rhiana with Kay etc. My point is at least Danica is open about her methods and gains. I see no difference in any of them, they are all tarts or opertunists and in one way or another make money from their bodies in different ways. I know which one I would throw my vote behind (the honest and open one) I dont however say I like or champion any of them, just being realistic.

OK I see the point you were making, its just that in my mind Deana cannot really be compared with Danica inasmuch as Deana came into the BB House to play the game and if she looked sly or devious then so what !!! its a gameshow. Danica however makes a living by preying on sad vulnerable (wealthy) men (and poss women), this is her claim to fame this is why she is on CBB.

In my view it is unfair to compare the two, one was acting sly on a gameshow, the other is just a nasty piece of work and is probably only one step away from full blown prostitution a few years down the line.

ps - I wasn't trying to "bait" you.....

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by RodHull

. Trying to make out shes a sex worker is pathetic, and shows a massive level of ignorance of the subject imo

I have never paid for sex but this doesn't say that I won't.
I have never worked in the sex industry but this also doesn't mean that I won't or that I don't have contact with it. However using your own argument please prove being pathetic and massive levels of ignorance

Sex Workers do not have to touch any one or discuss sex to be a sex worker. They must work in the sex industry. Danica does.

Working girls sometimes charged based on time or for the number of times someone is "relieved" Or for the acts themselves with accompanying relief.

Very often nothing sexual happens as this was always the Trick's intention. This is a fetish in it self. The ability to buy someone's attention is a powerful feeling for someone in need of attention. There aren't many Tricks that would share a film of their time with a working girl to the general public. As they is likely to be regarded as pathetic.

How Danica or any other girl rinses will be speculation until she confesses.
If she had a child and continued with this practice Social Services would intervene due to the speculation as to her contact with these strangers and her material rewards and her choice to make money in this way.

I personally don't believe that someone who makes their living from nudity and sexually suggestive poses. Who then advertises their material desires to strangers on line. Initiates or makes contact with these strangers can control whether the said stranger sexual objectifies them in return for said material desire.

I also know how sad the human condition can be. Yes even in the male of the species. I am not suprise they pay to have attention from a beautiful woman. My back does goes up in that we would raise some of our female children to think they cannot do any better than exploit themselves and other human beings sexually.

As Jasmine said more cruelly. I would be in tremendous pain if she were my daughter. Albeit speculation as to her contact with the gifting strangers.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

OK I see the point you were making, its just that in my mind Deana cannot really be compared with Danica inasmuch as Deana came into the BB House to play the game and if she looked sly or devious then so what !!! its a gameshow. Danica however makes a living by preying on sad vulnerable (wealthy) men (and poss women), this is her claim to fame this is why she is on CBB.

In my view it is unfair to compare the two, one was acting sly on a gameshow, the other is just a nasty piece of work and is probably only one step away from full blown prostitution a few years down the line.

ps - I wasn't trying to "bait" you.....

Just to answer your reply....I will answer in red.....Oh by the way, danica isnt in there because she is a prostitute, she is on there because she appeared on tv in a series called sex lies and rinsing guys. Not because she is a prozy.

In my view it is unfair to compare the two, one was acting sly on a gameshow I dont think danica is acting sly., the other is just a nasty piece of work and is probably only one step away from full blown prostitution a few years down the line. I doubt whether or not Deana would make it as a prositute as she is a man hater, but I bow down to your vast knowledge of women, I am after all just a mere hetrosexual, semi intelligent, married, clean living and opinionated sad old male.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Deana was a scammer with more faces than big ben, this girl may be a slut but at least she is an honest slut. Whats your next point or would you like to dwell in the oast and support a looser for ever.

Deana was honest about the money though :/

[the truth]

One of the vilest shows Ive ever watched, these women repulse me. genuinely disgusted. shes way way worse than a prostitute.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Just to answer your reply....I will answer in red.....Oh by the way, danica isnt in there because she is a prostitute, she is on there because she appeared on tv in a series called sex lies and rinsing guys. Not because she is a prozy.

In my view it is unfair to compare the two, one was acting sly on a gameshow I dont think danica is acting sly., the other is just a nasty piece of work and is probably only one step away from full blown prostitution a few years down the line. I doubt whether or not Deana would make it as a prositute as she is a man hater, but I bow down to your vast knowledge of women, I am after all just a mere hetrosexual, semi intelligent, married, clean living and opinionated sad old male.

Not sure reading this we are on same track anymore, so lets agree to differ on this one and move on.....ttfn

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Not sure reading this we are on same track anymore, so lets agree to differ on this one and move on.....ttfn

I think hes saying deana was a man hater, which she was
I think hes also saying danica is pretty much a prostitute or worse, which sadly she appears to be

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

You slagged off Deana for wanting money over flowers but think its fine for Danica to sell her body over the internet?

Deana doesn't have blond hair and certain features...

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by the truth

I think hes saying deana was a man hater, which she was
I think hes also saying danica is pretty much a prostitute or worse, which sadly she appears to be

Not sure he really knows what he is saying. Sometimes serious debate is wasted on this forum...!!!

[GiRTh]

Watched it last night and OMG what an eye opener. You can download the whole thing from Dailymotion.

Danica wasn't the worst - the other two were horrendous - but thats not saying much. Danica was only shown updating her wish list and putting pictures on her website of her riding a horse for her clients (?).

The biggest problem for me was that the other two girls didn't know when to stop. One of them described it as 'The real hustle' but unlike hustlers they didnt know when to shut the operation down. Even when a guy was clearly looking for more one of the girls, instead of trying to end it, actually tried and succeeded to get more money out of him. He became angry and a little abusive but she still tried to get even more. I have to think this kind of lifestyle will not end well for these girls and sadly when it does not many will be sympathetic after seeing how downright greedy some of these girls are.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Not sure he really knows what he is saying. Sometimes serious debate is wasted on this forum...!!!

Trust me he knows exactly what he is saying. I am not easily fooled nor do I raise to bait that often but in saying that there are some on here that would try the patience of a saint.

If its serious debate you want, I can do that, but I have no time for digs or inuendos. If you feel I have wasted your time, I can and will apologise because there are traits of your posts that show empathy as well as good reading. Its the condecending bits I get rubbed up with. good to know you.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Trust me he knows exactly what he is saying. I am not easily fooled nor do I raise to bait that often but in saying that there are some on here that would try the patience of a saint.

If its serious debate you want, I can do that, but I have no time for digs or inuendos. If you feel I have wasted your time, I can and will apologise because there are traits of your posts that show empathy as well as good reading. Its the condecending bits I get rubbed up with. good to know you.

I think our wires got crossed with our earlier posts, I have read them all back and am convinced of this.

I'm not here to engage in baiting or backbiting with other posters, if I have given you that impression I apologise. I like yourself am an avid Big Brother fan and may get carried away sometimes with my conjecture.

I look forward to many more lively debates serious or otherwise....

[Razor]

Group Hug.

[Cynical]

How anyone can think that what she does is okay, is beyond me. Essentially she is preying on vulnerable, confidence-starved, men and stealing money off them. The men are stupid to pay these vile women, but most of them will more than likely be lonely, depressed and not in a great place. She has no place being on CBB, and i pray to god she isn't celebrated by nuts/zoo when the skunk gets out.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Sex Workers do not have to touch any one or discuss sex to be a sex worker. They must work in the sex industry. Danica does.

I beg to differ...

A sex worker is a person who works in the sex industry.[1][2] The term is used in reference to all those in all areas of the sex industry including those who provide direct sexual services as well as the staff of such industries. Some sex workers are paid to engage in sexually explicit behavior which involve varying degrees of physical contact with clients (prostitutes, escorts, some but not all professional dominants); pornography models and actors engage in sexually explicit behavior which are filmed or photographed. Phone sex operators have sexually-oriented conversations with clients, and do auditive sexual roleplay. Other sex workers are paid to engage in live sexual performance, such as web cam sex[3] and performers in live sex shows. Some sex workers perform erotic dances and other acts for an audience (striptease, Go-Go dancing, lap dancing, Neo-burlesque, and peep shows).

Point being there is always a sexual slant to what they do, it doesn't have to involve touching but it must involve sex. Hence the term SEX worker, not chat worker, or online friend.

Sorry your opinion is just way off the mark, and a little silly if you ask me. Like I said in another thread, do you consider normal girls who go out on a saturday and get guys to buy them drinks as sex workers as well? How about women who use their charms and smarts in the business world to overcome inequality inherent in male dominated businesses? Are they sex workers as well?

[Big Brother Cartoons uk]

Originally Posted by Cynical

How anyone can think that what she does is okay, is beyond me. Essentially she is preying on vulnerable, confidence-starved, men and stealing money off them. The men are stupid to pay these vile women, but most of them will more than likely be lonely, depressed and not in a great place. She has no place being on CBB, and i pray to god she isn't celebrated by nuts/zoo when the skunk gets out.

Actually it's the opposite, these guys actually think they are in with a chance!

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Cynical

How anyone can think that what she does is okay, is beyond me. Essentially she is preying on vulnerable, confidence-starved, men and stealing money off them. The men are stupid to pay these vile women, but most of them will more than likely be lonely, depressed and not in a great place. She has no place being on CBB, and i pray to god she isn't celebrated by nuts/zoo when the skunk gets out.

Yes, this is the point I have been trying to make in this particular thread, No she doesn't sleep with men for money nor does she perform any kind of sexual favour for money. But either of those require her to suffer sexual contact in order to obtain monetary gain.

This "rinsing" activity to my mind is utterly repellent because she risks nothing with these particular clients, she is basically feeding off their sad lonely situation for profit. Absolutely and utterly vile in every way, in my mind this constitutes a criminal offence akin to fraud or embezzlement . Obtaining money through deception.

I hate it I really do I had an elderly relative who was tricked out of thousands of pounds by a similar type of person, I think it's the lowest of the low feeding on sad lonely unhappy people , I could strangle the bitch with my bare hands I really could. People like her who prey on the underdog , who prey on the lonely weak and the vulnerable are utterly loathsome.

I also cannot understand anyone who posts comments supporting this type of behaviour , they obviously have no real appreciation of the reality of this type of activity because if they had any real appreciation of what this is really like they would not support this in any way shape or form.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Yes, this is the point I have been trying to make in this particular thread, No she doesn't sleep with men for money nor does she perform any kind of sexual favour for money. But either of those require her to suffer sexual contact in order to obtain monetary gain.

This "rinsing" activity to my mind is utterly repellent because she risks nothing with these particular clients, she is basically feeding off their sad lonely situation for profit. Absolutely and utterly vile in every way, in my mind this constitutes a criminal offence akin to fraud or embezzlement . Obtaining money through deception.

I hate it I really do I had an elderly relative who was tricked out of thousands of pounds by a similar type of person, I think it's the lowest of the low feeding on sad lonely unhappy people , I could strangle the bitch with my bare hands I really could. People like her who prey on the underdog , who prey on the lonely weak and the vulnerable are utterly loathsome.

I also cannot understand anyone who posts comments supporting this type of behaviour , they obviously have no real appreciation of the reality of this type of activity because if they had any real appreciation of what this is really like they would not support this in any way shape or form.

I agree, then to make it worse, they get paid to show off about it on another trash tv show and do kiss and tells to tabloids, then she uses this horrific back story to get on big brother as a "celebrity" which she is not, then she even tries to use to garner sympathy, saying the show isrepresented her and shes here to clear her name

the ONLy good thing I will say in her and rhian and jasmines favour is this, despite being horrific human beings, at least they are sort fo honest about being gold digging bitches....many women in our decayed society pretend theyre not after the money, when frankly thats what most of the care about more than anything

[reece(:]

as Jasmine said on BOTS "she can be seen sucking her titties online but dresses like shes going to church"