[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Don't try twist it and change the point. You said you have never targeted Civilians. Something which is not true, which was bought to your attention. Nothing about "We don't bomb and run". You HAVE targeted and killed numerous Civilians. More than Hezbollah have in fact. Of course though the western world media would label anyone who refuses to back down to Israel and the U.S as "Terrorists". I mean how dare they actually put up a fight when their land is being invaded and kids are being killed due to air strikes on their homeland.

if you have evidence of the USA targeting civilians I recommend you inform the Guardian or the New York Times, because that would be front page news. Why are you wasting time talking to me if you have such important and ground breaking news?

[the truth]

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[mrlecturer]

Originally Posted by lostalex

if you have evidence of the USA targeting civilians I recommend you inform the Guardian or the New York Times, because that would be front page news. Why are you wasting time talking to me if you have such important and ground breaking news?

Refer to US Drone Strikes in Pakistan.

On 14 July 2009, Daniel L. Byman of the Brookings Institution stated that although accurate data on the results of drone strikes is difficult to obtain, it seemed that ten civilians had died in the drone attacks for every militant killed. He suggested that drone strikes may kill "10 or so civilians" for every militant killed, which would represent a civilian to combatant casualty ratio of 10:1

Drone strikes, at times killing civilians, have been such a common occurrence in Pakistan for the past few years.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Oh god do we all really need another war on our hands.

The U.S. does their economy relies on it to survive. They are the biggest exporter of arms in the world and they arent too picky about who they sell them to either even after it inevitably comes back to bite them on the arse.
http://www.carnegiecouncil.org/studio/audio/data/000774
The U.S. is responsible for 41% of the money the world spends on machines designed to murder every year they fuel the conflict because the money it generates is vital to their economy.

[Mystic Mock]

Thanks for the link Bobnot, I think it's sick tbh.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Thanks for the link Bobnot, I think it's sick tbh.

It is disgusting behaviour i dont dislike Americans as people but their goverment led foreign policys turn my stomach.
Trying to force your own set of values onto other cultures and trying to act although your own set of ideals is the only right way is just vile and arrogant and we all know how that turned out the last time another country tried to push the rest of the world to think like them.

[Livia]

The last two days have been Rosh Hashanah, Jewish New Year. Netanyahu probably got a little shnickered and thought he could fight the world. You boys know what that's like, you've probably all been there.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

The last two days have been Rosh Hashanah, Jewish New Year. Netanyahu probably got a little shnickered and thought he could fight the world. You boys know what that's like, you've probably all been there.

What on earth are you talking about? This is a potential world war? Youre cracking wise?

[Livia]

Truth... I don't know how to put this any plainer. Leave me alone. Stop quoting me. Put me on ignore if you have to. You bore with with your hysterics.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Truth... I don't know how to put this any plainer. Leave me alone. Stop quoting me. Put me on ignore if you have to. You bore with with your hysterics.

Please stop abusing me and other posters, please stop lowering the level of debate with endless snide petty comments about serious matters.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

Please stop abusing me and other posters, please stop lowering the level of debate with endless snide petty comments about serious matters.

Put me on ignore then. And LEAVE ME ALONE.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Put me on ignore then. And LEAVE ME ALONE.

You don't like anyone standing up to you and your endless snide petty insults. Try and write something of substance instead about the topics at hand. Please leave me alone now and stop shouting in capital letters, very bad manners.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

You don't like anyone standing up to you and your endless snide petty insults. Try and write something of substance instead about the topics at hand. Please leave me alone now and stop shouting in capital letters, very bad manners.

I love people standing up to me, when they're not hysterics and when they have a point to be discussed. You, on the other hand, feel you are always justified in taking the moral high ground in every argument. No other opinion counts but your own. That's not how it works here though. This is a discussion forum; it doesn't always have to be a hateful battle. You don't always have to be rude to people who don't share your view. I disagree with many people on here, and they frequently disagree with me, but in the main I get on with the vast majority of people despite our differences.

So... I know you like to have the last word, so write something cutting, add an emoticon because I know you feel it emphasises your point and then please, try to pretend I don't exist and I will extend you the same courtesy.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

I love people standing up to me, when they're not hysterics and when they have a point to be discussed. You, on the other hand, feel you are always justified in taking the moral high ground in every argument. No other opinion counts but your own. That's not how it works here though. This is a discussion forum; it doesn't always have to be a hateful battle. You don't always have to be rude to people who don't share your view. I disagree with many people on here, and they frequently disagree with me, but in the main I get on with the vast majority of people despite our differences.

So... I know you like to have the last word, so write something cutting, add an emoticon because I know you feel it emphasises your point and then please, try to pretend I don't exist and I will extend you the same courtesy.

Yet another vacuous shallow reply, that offers zero substance and nothing about the serious topic at hand. Its sad because clearly you pretend to have major confidence, when in fact you lack the confidence to address the issues at hand and instead choose petty insults, for clearly this is all you think you are good at. The topic at hand here is, Israel attacking Iran and potentially starting a major war, possibly a world war. The fact the US sold Ł44 billion in arms last year, a lot to saudi arabia, egypt and israel should concern everyone. I will rise about your petty taunts of so called hyesteria and stick to the topic.

[InOne]

I was listening to the BBC World Service news lastnight and there was nothing on there about it. Does not seem like a massive thing and it's not making headlines, I'm sure this story just pops up every few months then vanishes again.

[Novo]

Mock seems the kind of guy to listen to when it comes to situations like this

[arista]

InOne


This story started the day before Sept11 2012.
So it was lost due to all the attacks on America
in the Middle East.

But this last week it went on all USA News stations
as the Leader of Israel was Live on TV feed
giving his Red line warning and
Why Barack is not part of this.

[arista]

Youtube video

2 days ago NBC

[Alf]

until the middle east accepts religion is bull s**t they will always be fighting. they are way behind us at evolving in life.

[arista]

Youtube video

This is a Theory
ideal to start wars on.

[arista]

Youtube video

Deadline 25th Sept for America.

FoxNews Report.

[Tom4784]

It's a foolish move and the US (and the UN) should do their best to try to put a stop to it or distance themselves from Isreal. If you can't get them to see sense then back away and let them make their own mistakes.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by wannashag

until the middle east accepts religion is bull s**t they will always be fighting. they are way behind us at evolving in life.

humans have been at war for 10,000s years before religion. its not about religion, its about , power, land, greed, oppression, ignorance, violence and destruction. mostly the rich raping, pillaging and abusing the poor. the middle east has produced some of the finest minds and academics and inventions in history. the greed for oil has brought them to their knees, as western powers divided and conquered them. most of these angry faces you see, have lost their families, their children, their wives, their husbands, their entire lives and probably been injured or maimed and have nothing left to do but fight.

beware the enemy who has nothing left to lose

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a foolish move and the US (and the UN) should do their best to try to put a stop to it or distance themselves from Isreal. If you can't get them to see sense then back away and let them make their own mistakes.

What even if it sets off other nations firing Nukes?
Like a WW3 etc.

[fruit_cake]

so if Israel nukes Iran, could this spread here? it sounds very dangerous