[Legend killer]

PMSL have you seens Ray's defence everyone is blowing past him you would know that if you actually watched the games instead of reading ESPN BOX SCORE

[Legend killer]

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[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

PMSL have you seens Ray's defence everyone is blowing past him you would know that if you actually watched the games instead of reading ESPN BOX SCORE

Which is why I said putting up better stats you fool.

[Legend killer]

WTF is the point in saying it then if he is playing worse the Wade

LOL AWARD FOR MOST POINTLESS COMMENT IN TIBB HISTORY GOES TO BROTHER LEON!!

[Brother Leon]

Errm. Because he is shooting and scoring better than Wade. You seem to slate Kobe for his efficiency alot, Wade isn't immune from getting it too.



Anyway. It was nice seeing the Clippers school Miami AGAIN.

[Brother Leon]

Errm. Because he is shooting and scoring better than Wade. You seem to slate Kobe for his efficiency alot, Wade isn't immune from getting it too.



Anyway. It was nice seeing the Clippers school Miami AGAIN.

[Legend killer]

Clipper have a good team will get beat by LAKERS AND OKC when it actually matters in PLAYOFFS. Only team that will beat Miami when it actually matters in playoffs is Lakers because of there size

[Brother Leon]

Clippers would beat Miami in a series possibly, Memphis would give them a fright too. They won't get out the West though.

[Legend killer]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Clippers would beat Miami in a series possibly, Memphis would give them a fright too. They won't get out the West though.

Nah Brother trust me on this. They barely beat Miami last night and the only player that played on the Miami side was Bron. Although your shout of Memphis is a very good call but like you said they won't get out

Indy are the only team that will give them a game in the East

[Novo]

The Suns will give them a game to remember when Marcin is in GOAT mode

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

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Wade is up there. If anything its even. Lebron is the better slasher right now. Its not even debatebale.

Do you still think that Wade is better than Kobe. Wade is averaging 16 points so far this season.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Nah Brother trust me on this. They barely beat Miami last night and the only player that played on the Miami side was Bron. Although your shout of Memphis is a very good call but like you said they won't get out

Indy are the only team that will give them a game in the East

Clippers had a 22 point lead in the 4th quarter. That's not barely beating.

[Legend killer]

TBH Sobig it's not close. Lebron may be the better fast break player but that's not Slashing, Prime Wade is the second greatest slasher behind MJ and this is a very popular view amongst the NBA community

Like I said In an earlier post I gave Kobe his probs as you can see he did his work over the summer unlike Wade. But there is no point in comparing the 2 when

A. It's regular season and we are only 10 games in

B. Wade is coming of Knee surgery and more important is injured AGAIN

Wade at Kobe's age won't be as good Kobe mainly due to Wade's lack of work ethic and the fact he gave up on his bank shot for some reason, BUT that doesn't change the fact that Prime for Prime Wade was just as good as Kobe and exceded him in playoff and finals performances(This point really can't be argued).

The disrespect for Wade is quite disgusting to be honest

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

TBH Sobig it's not close. Lebron may be the better fast break player but that's not Slashing, Prime Wade is the second greatest slasher behind MJ and this is a very popular view amongst the NBA community

Like I said In an earlier post I gave Kobe his probs as you can see he did his work over the summer unlike Wade. But there is no point in comparing the 2 when

A. It's regular season and we are only 10 games in

B. Wade is coming of Knee surgery and more important is injured AGAIN

Wade at Kobe's age won't be as good Kobe mainly due to Wade's lack of work ethic and the fact he gave up on his bank shot for some reason, BUT that doesn't change the fact that Prime for Prime Wade was just as good as Kobe and exceded him in playoff and finals performances(This point really can't be argued).

The disrespect for Wade is quite disgusting to be honest

Its close, but I give Lebron the edge due to his size. Plus he is the better finisher. Its a tossup really.

So when are you going to admit that Kobe is better? 20 games in? 30 games? 50 games? A 34 year old has no business being better than a 31 year old. Says a lot.

That's insulting to Kobe. In the past 10 years the only players that you can make a case that were better than Kobe are Duncan, Lebron and Shaq. Wade is not even the discussion. Its very insulting that you would even dare to compare him to arguably the Greatest Player of our generation and at worst a top 10 all time player. Just disrespectful. Wade did nothing better. NOTHING.

Kobe went against all time great defences in the finals. Wade went against the freaking Dallas Mavericks. When he faced a real defence he flopped and had to rely on Lebron to save him.

Wade is second tier. He is on Nash and Dirk's level. Not Kobe's.

[Legend killer]

We gonna act like in his first 2 seasons Wade didn't DESTROY a Detroit team that use to bend Kobe and the lakers over.

We gonna act like Wade didn't destroy Boston in 09 in a way neither Lebron or Kobe could during the same playoff run

Also LOL at OKC being a REAL DEFENSIVE team WHAT ever your smoken I would love to have some

And please don't ever compare Kobe to Shaq again Prime Shaq was the most dominant player EVER including Jordan

Wade has 2 top 10 finals performance's aswell as the greatest ever one while Kobe has no top 10 performance with his most memorable being nearly bricking the Lakers to a loss vs the Celtics. Wade has better playoff stats then Kobe so please don't go down that route Kobe fans will find no solace down there

Also Wade has a season that is only behind Wilt,Jordan and Shaq in efficiency Kobe is no where to be seen

[Legend killer]

O/T but am watching some Hurricane Sandy thing on BBC3 and just wondering if any of you American peeps were affected by it

[Brother Leon]

Celtics V Nets & Spurs V Knicks


Decisions,Decisions...

[Legend killer]

Celtics and Spurs will win

[Legend killer]

But like I said earlier Kris Hump should be balling on a better team

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

We gonna act like in his first 2 seasons Wade didn't DESTROY a Detroit team that use to bend Kobe and the lakers over.

We gonna act like Wade didn't destroy Boston in 09 in a way neither Lebron or Kobe could during the same playoff run

Also LOL at OKC being a REAL DEFENSIVE team WHAT ever your smoken I would love to have some

And please don't ever compare Kobe to Shaq again Prime Shaq was the most dominant player EVER including Jordan

Wade has 2 top 10 finals performance's aswell as the greatest ever one while Kobe has no top 10 performance with his most memorable being nearly bricking the Lakers to a loss vs the Celtics. Wade has better playoff stats then Kobe so please don't go down that route Kobe fans will find no solace down there

Also Wade has a season that is only behind Wilt,Jordan and Shaq in efficiency Kobe is no where to be seen

The Pistons faced Kobe when hand checking was legal. After the 04 finals players weren't allowed to hand check anymore. Wade used to get a lot of bs calls during those years. Everyone but delusional Wade fans admit this.

Boston hardly tried vs Miami. Their game plan was to let Wade get his, but shut everyone else down. Its that simple.

Kobe was just as good as Shaq in the 2001 playoffs and he was better than him in 03 and in 04.

No Wade does not. He has the most free throws in the finals. That's about it. You couldn't look at him without getting called for a foul. Everyone knows the 06 finals was rigged.

Kobe's 09 finals stats ----> 32.4/5.6/7.4

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2009.html

Those stats are better than Wade's. Kobe faced the number 1 ranked defensive team and Wade faced the 11th ranked.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2006.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2009.html

Wade is a SCRUB compared to the Black Mamba.

[SoBig]

Bosh > Wade. Wade is not even the second best player on the Heat anymore.

[Legend killer]

Originally Posted by SoBig

The Pistons faced Kobe when hand checking was legal. After the 04 finals players weren't allowed to hand check anymore. Wade used to get a lot of bs calls during those years. Everyone but delusional Wade fans admit this.

Boston hardly tried vs Miami. Their game plan was to let Wade get his, but shut everyone else down. Its that simple.

Kobe was just as good as Shaq in the 2001 playoffs and he was better than him in 03 and in 04.

No Wade does not. He has the most free throws in the finals. That's about it. You couldn't look at him without getting called for a foul. Everyone knows the 06 finals was rigged.

Kobe's 09 finals stats ----> 32.4/5.6/7.4

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2009.html

Those stats are better than Wade's. Kobe faced the number 1 ranked defensive team and Wade faced the 11th ranked.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2006.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2009.html

Wade is a SCRUB compared to the Black Mamba.

1.Nearly Stopped reading after this TBH go watch highlights Wade was DOUBLED EVERY play and got Tripled in the crunch

2. Please don't ever compare Kobe to Shaq again 3 finals MVP'S TO 0 say's it all really

3. From espn the centre of Kobe nuthurggery
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012...formances-no-1

Kobe didn't even have 1 in the top 10 PMSL

MUST TRY HARDER SON!!!!!!

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

1.Nearly Stopped reading after this TBH go watch highlights Wade was DOUBLED EVERY play and got Tripled in the crunch

2. Please don't ever compare Kobe to Shaq again 3 finals MVP'S TO 0 say's it all really

3. From espn the centre of Kobe nuthurggery
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012...formances-no-1

Kobe didn't even have 1 in the top 10 PMSL

MUST TRY HARDER SON!!!!!!

It is well known that Boston got better as the playoffs progressed. Wade saw doubles and triples?

Youtube video

Where are the doubles and triples?

There were no centers in the East that could match up with Shaq. So the Lakers did the smart thing and ran the offense through him in the finals. The real matchups those years were in the West. Spurs, Kings, Portland etc. Those were the teams that Kobe DOMINATED. If there was a WCFs MVP Kobe would have won 2.

Hollinger!??! So Wade's free throw fest was better than Jordan's 41/8.5/6.3 and Shaq's 38/16.7/2.7?

[Legend killer]

1. Dwyane Wade, Miami, 2006




It's hard to overstate how awesome Wade was in leading the Heat to their lone championship, particularly in the final four games when Miami rallied from a 2-0 deficit to stun the Mavs.



Wade started the comeback by leading the Heat back from a 13-point fourth quarter deficit in Game 3, scoring 12 points in the final 6˝ minutes to send the game to OT. He also made the biggest play of the series with his crazy dribbling foray to the rim at the end of overtime in Game 5 that -- controversially -- earned a whistle from referee Bennett Salvatore and a trip to the line for the winning free throws.



For the series, Wade averaged 34.7 points, 7.8 rebounds, 3.8 assists and 2.7 steals -- and this in a slow-paced series (neither team cleared the century mark in regulation in any of the six games). His basket attacks were so deadly because the Mavs couldn't stop fouling him. Wade shot a whopping 97 free throws in the six games -- the most of any player since the merger -- including 25 in Game 5.



Overall, Wade's 33.8 PER is easily the best of any Finals performer since the merger. While it seems strange to have somebody besides Michael Jordan in the top spot, the truth is Jordan never dominated a Finals to this extent. At the time, many called Wade's performance Jordanesque. It turns out they might have been selling him short.

[Legend killer]

Bryant 15 PMSL

Bryant averaged 32 points in leading the Lakers to their first title of the post-Shaq era, setting the tone with a dominant effort in the Lakers' Game 1 rout and then sticking the knife in at the end with two buckets in overtime of Game 4 to give L.A. a 3-1 series lead over the Magic. He capped it with 30 points, six rebounds, five assists and four blocks in the Game 5 clincher.



And he shared the rock, too -- Bryant averaged 7.4 assists per game for the series, helping L.A. carve up a stout Orlando defense led by Defensive Player of the Year Dwight Howard