[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

The green names ones on the right, and beside their names is who they voted for

okay I would hate to be those four right now

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Raph

I just want to say Marc, did you see the essay I wrote about why Mollie should win? That's an indication alone for how successful this game has been. It really got every contestant (pretty much) so involved physically and emotionally and the fact that we took the game so seriously - e.g writing that 5 page essay - shows how much we appreciate your efforts.

Every jury votes in their own way, and that's the nature of the game. Also, Ben could've taken Lucas to the final, but he didn't. There's no real way to say who 'deserves' to win - if anything, that's up to the jury to decide and WE voted Mollie - WE, four people who were 100% committed to the game, so you really can't get that mad at that. Not to mention, it's really not Mollie's fault. I campaigned for her. I kept trying to save her round after round. If you want to blame this on someone, please blame me and not Mollie.

Yeah so please blame me and not Mollie, if you want to blame someone for this. But honestly it has been an AMAZING game, and this ending spark should prove that

Pretty sure this is already happening. I havent seen one person say its mollies fault yet...

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Raph

I just want to say Marc, did you see the essay I wrote about why Mollie should win? That's an indication alone for how successful this game has been. It really got every contestant (pretty much) so involved physically and emotionally and the fact that we took the game so seriously - e.g writing that 5 page essay - shows how much we appreciate your efforts.

Every jury votes in their own way, and that's the nature of the game. Also, Ben could've taken Lucas to the final, but he didn't. There's no real way to say who 'deserves' to win - if anything, that's up to the jury to decide and WE voted Mollie - WE, four people who were 100% committed to the game, so you really can't get that mad at that. Not to mention, it's really not Mollie's fault. I campaigned for her. I kept trying to save her round after round. If you want to blame this on someone, please blame me and not Mollie.

Yeah so please blame me and not Mollie, if you want to blame someone for this. But honestly it has been an AMAZING game, and this ending spark should prove that

I don't blame Mollie at all. she knows that. You were never going to vote anybody else because you wouldn't have been able to appreciate any amazing moves because you're so infatuated with Mollie

[Vicky.]

Anyway, congrats to the finalists, and to Mollie

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I appear so on here, in real life I've trashed my living room, stripped off and stuck knives in myself

[Munchkins]

Raph so what if you're infatuated with her, i am too
People will always vote personally in games anyway, it's not like this is the first time its happened before

[Vicky.]

The only way to stop things like this happening it to change the voting really.

The only game on here that isnt just a popularity contest is the mole I think

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Pretty sure this is already happening. I havent seen one person say its mollies fault yet...

Well that's good because Mollie is wonderful and it isn't her fault at all

Originally Posted by Marc

I don't blame Mollie at all. she knows that. You were never going to vote anybody else because you wouldn't have been able to appreciate any amazing moves because you're so infatuated with Mollie

That's okay, I love Mollie cause she's one of my best friends and she's done a lot for me. Note though, I didn't vote for Ben because I trusted him and he stabbed me in the back, not because I didn't appreciate his game.

[Marc]

People should vote with their brains not heart.

[AnnieK]

Jeez....you go out for a night out and miss out on the final...Goddamn birthdays

Congratulations Mollie

However, just to add my twopenneth (because I've had a drink so I am right now ten men)....this is the whole reason I won't do a forum game yet... Really wanted to do this but thought it will end up a popularit contest.

Marc and LJ you have done a phenomenal job, I have enjoyed watching it unfold....

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The only way to stop things like this happening it to change the voting really.

The only game on here that isnt just a popularity contest is the mole I think

And the Pub Quiz, also I think Shaun has half the votes coming from people who follow the game with ICB.

And the Photo Comp.

[Marc]

Personally I'd have voted Ben if he ousted me.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I appear so on here, in real life I've trashed my living room, stripped off and stuck knives in myself

[Marc]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

And the Pub Quiz, also I think Shaun has half the votes coming from people who follow the game with ICB.

OMG Jarrod beating me. Shameful moment

[reece(:]

I explained my reasonings to LJ and if that isn't enough then so be it, that's how the cookie crumbles.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Marc

People should vote with their brains not heart.

Not what happens necessarily in survivor, it depends who are in the jury. And a good gameplayer would plan out their game to satisfy the type of people who would end up in the jury. Clearly Ben's game didn't do that. He should've played more to the type of people who were in the jury if he wanted to win, and clearly this jury put a lot of importance in loyalty and kindness.

[Marc]

Anyway I've calmed down and I've not said this but well done Mollie. A win is a win!

[Jenn-CityIVLyfe]

Guys we can always just say that Jennifer Arroyo won <3

[Amy Jade]

When you think about it Ben and Lee paid the ultimate price for getting rid of Lucas in the last vote off. Had they voted off Mollie instead then her allies would not have been able to vote her so while they played an amazing game it was flawed in the end by their mistake.

Before anyone has a go, I am not criticising anyone's game plan just saying the last strategy let them down probably.

[Marc]

I think Lucas would've won anyway

[Benjamin]

I'm just glad I could make the final while making some big moves, and I know played the best game I could, so I'm happy with that. Yes, I was a little annoyed at first but what's done is done and can't be changed.

But if I'm ever in a game with you again, I'll be after you.

-although I'm 'giving games up for a while, this took so much of my effort and Im tired of having to think about strategy, lol-

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

And the Pub Quiz, also I think Shaun has half the votes coming from people who follow the game with ICB.

And the Photo Comp.

Ah yeah forgot the pub quiz and ICB

Photography contest can be a popularity thing too though(depending on the judges panel that year)..even without adding names sometimes its obvious who did what by the writeups, and they could PM people asking to vote for theirs too.

Anything thats based solely/mainly on votes from other members, will turn into a popularity contest really.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

When you think about it Ben and Lee paid the ultimate price for getting rid of Lucas in the last vote off. Had they voted off Mollie instead then her allies would not have been able to vote her so while they played an amazing game it was flawed in the end by their mistake.

Before anyone has a go, I am not criticising anyone's game plan just saying the last strategy let them down probably.

No because they would have voted Lucas. Raph was never going to vote for me, neither was reece. Lol. I stated at one point to would probably be between those two.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Marc

I think Lucas would've won anyway

Given the chance Raph, Jake and Drew were always going to vote Mollie though.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Marc

I think Lucas would've won anyway

I'm not sure, two of the jury had pics of Mollie in their sig (well cartoon Mollie) but that should have been a clue as to who they'd vote for. Raph was gonna vote for Mollie no matter what because he's good friends with her.

I'm not sure those votes would have switched to Lucas.