[Roy Mars III]

major spoilers

Spoiler:

he married Talisa (Jeyne in the books) breaking his promise to the Freys. If he would have married a Frey daugther like he said he would, he would be alive and the war won instead he makes a terrible choice which leads to his death and his mothers, the loss of the war, and the end of basically any chance the Starks have of coming out of the story well

guy is one of the dumbest characters in the story.

Like Ned he is a great military strategist but an idiot when it comes to the politics of the kingdom

[Locke.]

It is all Catelyn's fault for coming out of the Twins with such an unfair deal in the first place, they could have got across for much less than that. He is only 15 in the books aswell so that justifies a few of his bad decisions.

But yes, Robb is far too cool to marry into that horrible family.

Oh, and

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I think the Starks will come out of the story well still. Sansa is in a pretty good position, if she manages to shake off Littlefinger she will be ruling the Vale and eventually have the chance of taking back the North. Especially because they'd know she is a real Stark, which would have all the Northerners ditching Bolton (who will probably be killed by Stannis soon anyway). Only problem there is that Robb pretty much disinherited her after she married Tyrion, so dunno what'd happen about that. The last book was going to originally be called A Time for Wolves aswell, so that must surely mean something good is going to happen for the Starks.

Bran is ****ed though. And probably Arya aswell.

[Novo]

Wonder if the the way the Characters are portrayed in the TV Show will change the way GRRM will carry on the books, he'll probably be tempted to change a few things if some characters are more popular with the audience then he expected, I mean he probably would have killed Robb off in the first book if he knew how boring he'd have been in the Show

[Locke.]

Well GRRM does hate Stephen Dillane....

[Novo]

"Stephen Dillane, who plays Stannis, is another wonderful member of our cast. He has sort of a thankless role, cause Stannis is almost anti-charismatic. He’s such a hard rigid personality, blunt and brusk. Grudging with praise, quick to complain. It is hard to like him, to capture that personality, Stephen does a very good job."
→ GEORGE R.R. MARTIN ( DISCUSSING STEPHEN DILLANE)

[Novo]

Spoiler:

[Locke.]

Spoiler:

CANCEL THIS ****ING SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That was horrific. But they done it justice, at least. Although it isn't as sad because you can't get Catelyn's thoughts on it on screen like you can in a book.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

I was not expecting the ending to ep 9, took me by surprise.
and as always Daenerys was perfect

[Smithy]

oh my ****ing god

[GiRTh]

Whats going on in this programme?

Spoiler:

Why have they killed off one of the most popular characters?

[Roy Mars III]

Probably the greatest scene of the series. They did it justice

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Whats going on in this programme?

Spoiler:

Why have they killed off one of the most popular characters?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Whats going on in this programme?

Spoiler:

Why have they killed off one of the most popular characters?

Spoiler:

popular with Locke, that's about all

[Roy Mars III]

I think we all agree after this that

Spoiler:

Tywin is the GOAT

[Smithy]

Nope

[Roy Mars III]

he is running Westroes

[King Gizzard]

twitter was funny last night with all the people who didn't realise producers/the show has no bearing on what happens


I'M NEVER WATCHING AGEN !

[Roy Mars III]

Spoiler:

http://www.myspace.com/riprobb09

[Locke.]

They really did do it justice

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And Talisa's death... That was probably the worst of them all, and that is the shows own creation.

And I shouldn't laugh because I'm depressed myself, but some of these are hilarious - https://twitter.com/redweddingtears

[Roy Mars III]

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How they stabbed her in the stomach first. cold blooded

[Tom4784]

Oh my God.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Spoiler:

popular with Locke, that's about all

[Locke.]

For those that want to know more about the event that just happened (These will probably all be revealed early next week, they're nothing major):

Spoiler:

It was all Tywin and Walder's idea. At some point Walder contacted Tywin, then Tywin contacted Roose (I am guessing this was the letter we saw Tywin write after he found out Robb had gone to Riverrun for his grandfathers funeral and left Roose in charge at Harrenhal). Nobody else knew, other than Tywin, Walder and the Frey men, and Roose and the Bolton men.

Edmure = Alive. Blackfish = Alive. Blackfish must have something cool to do next week, because he never attended the wedding in the books, and there was no reason to write him into it unless he has something to do.

The Starks ensured guest right when they got to the twins, which is one of the oldest and most sacred traditions in the story. So even though Tywin was behind it, and the Boltons played a massive part, the Freys are mainly the shamed house for breaking that tradition. They'll be looked down upon even more than they already were now. By everyone, including the Lannisters.

Robb and Grey Wind both have their heads chopped off their bodies, they sew Grey Wind's head to Robb's body. As we saw earlier in the season with Catelyn's dad, the Tullys have sort of a viking-like funeral where they send their body out to sea. Catelyn's body is dumped in a river.



The write up of what fully happened in the book:

By using sellswords and knights at the feast disguised as musicians, and getting Robb's men too drunk to fight, Lord Walder Frey is able to coordinate a massacre with little loss to his own men. The two twin castles and the outlying camps are signaled when the band begins playing the "The Rains of Castamere" after the start of the bedding between Edmure and Roslin. Few of the northmen have a chance to react, and most are butchered on the spot.

The Frey and Bolton men turn on the Stark soldiers. Specially-rigged feast tents collapse and are set aflame during the slaughter. In the main hall, many of Robb's personal guard are killed by Freys, including Smalljon Umber, Dacey Mormont, and Ser Wendel Manderly, as well as his mother Catelyn. Roose Bolton personally kills Robb, who was previously shot by arrows, with a thrust to the heart.[1]

Though no definitive count is known, most of the northmen are killed while House Frey loses only approximately fifty men in the camps, as well as Ser Garse Goodbrook and Ser Tytos Frey, both of whom are killed by Sandor Clegane.[2] After the battle, the Freys cut off Robb's head along with that of Grey Wind, Robb's direwolf. In a mockery of Robb's relationship with his direwolf, the Freys sew Grey Wind's head onto Robb's decapitated body. Lady Catelyn Tully has her throat slit and is later thrown naked into the river in a mockery of House Tully funeral customs.

Robb's crown is kept by Ryman Frey.

[Smithy]

I went into town and picked up the books and read like a line of blurb on dance of dragons and ive seen like 4 spoilers now

Spoiler:

Tyrion kills Tywin
Cersei ends up awaiting trial
Margaery marries tommen
??!?!?!

[Roy Mars III]

That's why you don't read spoilers