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Old 30-06-2013, 08:40 PM #1
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Default Who is Jackie to judge anyone?

This dullard now thinks she knows the real Callum and Dexter because she saw their overhyped VT's, but she doesn't actually know them.

Her VT was dull, all she said was she wants the public to see how a mother and daughter behave with eachother.

Who ruddy cares how mothers and daughters interact with eachother.
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You know on the first day of BB when the whole forum including you judged all the HMs...

..Considering Jackie knows them both personally..

..and considering nobody on the forum knows either of them personally..

..isn't this thread a little silly/hypocritical?

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You know on the first day of BB when the whole forum including you judged all the HMs...

..Considering Jackie knows them both personally..

..and considering nobody on the forum knows either of them personally..

..isn't this thread a little silly/hypocritical?

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Well no, you see it's all about understanding what this show is about, HM's always overhype their VT's, she would know this, but instead of being intelligent about it Jackie decided to make a federal case out of Dexter and Callum's VT's, and then pretends to forget all about Hazel's.

I only got Dan wrong from the opening night, I stand by my opinions.
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This dullard now thinks she knows the real Callum and Dexter because she saw their overhyped VT's, but she doesn't actually know them.

Her VT was dull, all she said was she wants the public to see how a mother and daughter behave with eachother.

Who ruddy cares how mothers and daughters interact with eachother.
1. We can only judge/form opinions from what we know. In any sense you are arguing that BB fans shouldnt have favourites and least favourites because we "dont know them".

2. Her VT being dull is irrelevant to her having an opinion on other VTs.

3. Its pretty interesting in my opinion as of yet, a different dynamic to look at within the house. Most seem to agree.
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Please don't disrespect Jackie. She is better than life itself
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1. We can only judge/form opinions from what we know. In any sense you are arguing that BB fans shouldnt have favourites and least favourites because we "dont know them".

2. Her VT being dull is irrelevant to her having an opinion on other VTs.

3. Its pretty interesting in my opinion as of yet, a different dynamic to look at within the house. Most seem to agree.
Im in no way arguing that we shouldn't have favourites or least favourites, however, our opinions are of course subject to change, Jackie tho is playing up to the other HM's, she desperately wants to join the "Dexter can't be trusted" gang...I still say she was very selective in what she thought of Dexter and Callum compared to her somewhat under reaction to Hazel's VT.

Her VT being dull is relevant as she was judging others by their VT's, and how shes been in the house ever since, dull and very judgemental.

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Im in no way arguing that we shouldn't have favourites or least favourites, however, our opinions are of course subject to change, Jackie tho is playing up to the other HM's, she desperately wants to join the "Dexter can't be trusted" gang...I still say she was very selective in what she thought of Dexter and Callum compared to her somewhat under reaction to Hazel.

Her VT being dull is relevant as she was judging others by their VT's, and how shes been in the house ever since, dull and very judgemental.
Jackie's opinions are also subject to change. On launch night we all formed initial impressions of the housemates based on their VTs and very early interactions. Our opinions have changed as we have seen more of them in the house. In Jackie's and the other housemates' cases, they formed initial impressions on each other from their interactions which have developed up until now. However Jackie has now seen previous footage on what the housemates portrayed themselves as before entering, which has (most likely temporarily) changed her opinions for the time being.

Opinions on each other are always changing, however minute.

I do agree that Jackie (and Wolfy) were cowards in regards to not confronting Hazel but happily to do so to Dexter and Callum. I disagree that Jackie is boring.

Also your last sentence is somewhat contradicting. If Jackie, in your opinion, has lived up to her VT, "dull and boring", then she has a right to assume that others may live up to their VTs...
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Jackie's opinions are also subject to change. On launch night we all formed initial impressions of the housemates based on their VTs and very early interactions. Our opinions have changed as we have seen more of them in the house. In Jackie's and the other housemates' cases, they formed initial impressions on each other from their interactions which have developed up until now. However Jackie has now seen previous footage on what the housemates portrayed themselves as before entering, which has (most likely temporarily) changed her opinions for the time being.

Opinions on each other are always changing, however minute.

I do agree that Jackie (and Wolfy) were cowards in regards to not confronting Hazel but happily to do so to Dexter and Callum. I disagree that Jackie is boring.

Also your last sentence is somewhat contradicting. If Jackie, in your opinion, has lived up to her VT, "dull and boring", then she has a right to assume that others may live up to their VTs...
But Jackie has lived up to her VT, I never called her dull on night one, I waited to see what she'd be like, im araid she hasn't proved me wrong.

Dexter's VT was clearly a guy trying to show off and overhype themself to get into the house, but she decided on that VT clip alone that it's the real Dexter, she even used those words.
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But Jackie has lived up to her VT, I never called her dull on night one, I waited to see what she'd be like, im araid she hasn't proved me wrong.

Dexter's VT was clearly a guy trying to show off and overhype themself to get into the house, but she decided on that VT clip alone that it's the real Dexter, she even used those words.
Your opinions on Jackie are leading you astray.

It is not the first time people have been shocked by others' VTs.

Dexter came across arrogant in the VT (I disliked him to begin with), but in the house is not coming across remotely like it. Jackie is obviously going to question "who is the real Dexter!?!" like she did with Callum AND Hazel, the difference is she didnt have the balls to confront Hazel about it (but she still thought it).
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Your opinions on Jackie are leading you astray.

It is not the first time people have been shocked by others' VTs.

Dexter came across arrogant in the VT (I disliked him to begin with), but in the house is not coming across remotely like it. Jackie is obviously going to question "who is the real Dexter!?!" like she did with Callum AND Hazel, the difference is she didnt have the balls to confront Hazel about it (but she still thought it).
Your right about my opinion on Jackie maybe leading me astray, so i'll stick to this VT incident.

She stated, after being in the house with him for 2 weeks that his VT must be the real him, thats after spending time with him, thats a far cry from judging someone before you've spent time with them.

My opinion is that she should know that HM's "liven up" their VT's in order to seem interesting, Dexter's VT is so unbelievable im struggling to understand why she took it so seriously, but to cosy up to the other HM's she wanted to believe it was true and so went along with it without thinking or treating him fairly.

BTW, Jackie didn't question who the real Dexter was, she just believed the VT without any question.

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Your right about my opinion on Jackie maybe leading me astray, so i'll stick to this VT incident.

She stated, after being in the house with him for 2 weeks that his VT must be the real him, thats after spending time with him, thats a far cry from judging someone before you've spent time with them.

My opinion is that she should know that HM's "liven up" their VT's in order to seem interesting, Dexter's VT is so unbelievable im struggling to understand why she took it so seriously, but to cosy up to the other HM's she wanted to believe it was true and so went along with it without thinking or treating him fairly.

BTW, Jackie didn't question who the real Dexter was, she just believed the VT without any question.
I sort of get what you mean now, but its new information to her and so she assumed that Dexter was hiding who he portrayed on the VT. I dunno, I think Gina and Wolfy also did the same thing and especially Gina towards all of Dexter, Hazel and Callum. I dont think it makes them bad people but its gonna mess with their minds a bit. Yeah people exaggerate themselves but you have to take into account how much is actually true and how they are willing to allow themselves to be portrayed in such a way, if that makes sense.

Im with you that shes being incredibly sheepish, but this goes to pretty much all the HMs when were talking about Dexter unfortunately, even Gina as of late :/

At the end of the day this will be old news because the most influencing aspect is how the HMs behave in the house.

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I sort of get what you mean now, but its new information to her and so she assumed that Dexter was hiding who he portrayed on the VT. I dunno, I think Gina and Wolfy also did the same thing and especially Gina towards all of Dexter, Hazel and Callum. I dont think it makes them bad people but its gonna mess with their minds a bit. Yeah people exaggerate themselves but you have to take into account how much is actually true and how they are willing to allow themselves to be portrayed in such a way, if that makes sense.

Im with you that shes being incredibly sheepish, but this goes to pretty much all the HMs when were talking about Dexter unfortunately, even Gina as of late :/

At the end of the day this will be old news because the most influencing aspect is how the HMs behave in the house.

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This dullard now thinks she knows the real Callum and Dexter because she saw their overhyped VT's, but she doesn't actually know them.

Her VT was dull, all she said was she wants the public to see how a mother and daughter behave with eachother.

Who ruddy cares how mothers and daughters interact with eachother.
She is only in here because her babysitter daughter is.
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Not only has she demonstrated to us all that Charlie is not just a tactless adult , she is an immature tactless adult and now she has no taste in men. Sod off woman and get your own life.
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