[Lex]

Originally Posted by barbel13

To be fair for Sam it was difficult to catch up and understand when a group argue at the same time due to his hearing problem.So this is not his cup of tea.Sam will express himself on one to one argument but not group argument.Dex to win.

To be fair barbel...Sam didn't need to keep up with what was said to show compassion to a 'friend in distress' did he..?
All he had to do was follow her into the bedroom as "The cold hearted rat Dexter" [as his detractors would portray him] did, and offer a shoulder to cry on!...but did we see any of the expected 'friend-etiquette' displayed by Sam?...did we hell!...we saw a display of the boy's gameplan to keep away from anything that might be unpopular with both the other housemates and more importantly....the voting public!...it's accumulation of niggly little things like this that has put the boy right down in my estimation in the last couple of weeks barbel..I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with "playing the game to win"...[and it might just be the fact that 'his sincere-lad act' had me fooled for weeks?] but this level of sneakyness is too much for me!....I no longer want him to win, and refuse to brush his bad points off as "Well ..it's harder for lovely Sam!"..

Cheers.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've given up watching this abortion of a show. They've acted outrageously to Hazel, and they had the audacity to have a dispicable touch-feely interview with Daley. And that horrible old harridan on there last night, Carole... just before they went to a break saying that Hazel was responsible for Daley being thrown out". *******ing outrageous. That old bag is supposed to be a Sexual Health Worker. What does she say to the boys? Do anything you like to the girls, we can blame them for your bad behaviour afterwards.

I heard her say that too, the silly woman (I'm being polite.) And I think you've got a really good point about the kind of message it sends out-namely that the guys can do what they want because society just blames women. Disgraceful.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've given up watching this abortion of a show. They've acted outrageously to Hazel, and they had the audacity to have a dispicable touch-feely interview with Daley. And that horrible old harridan on there last night, Carole... just before they went to a break saying that Hazel was responsible for Daley being thrown out". *******ing outrageous. That old bag is supposed to be a Sexual Health Worker. What does she say to the boys? Do anything you like to the girls, we can blame them for your bad behaviour afterwards.

Ace post.
I agree with every word and although I haven't stopped watching,I am really appalled at the truly biased and unjust treatment towards Hazel too.

Carole was a hopeless housemate and she is even worse as a panellist.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Livia

You don't think she had a right to be angry?

You think she should just keep taking it, in case she upsets anyone?

It amuses me that of all the odious personalities in there, Hazel is the one who's singled out for the most venom. She's an intelligent woman, eloquent and articulate, she takes no prisoners and she doesn't burst into tears every time things aren't going her way... and people hate her for it.

[Seanbon]

I firmly believe that the continued biased editing of BB,and the character assassination of Hazel on BBBOTS,is because Hazel would be of no use to BB if she won!! She probably would never have won,but they're making darned sure she doesn't.
Hazel already has a career,and her going on BB was in order to try and break into the UK market,which,despite the controversy,I think she will succeed in doing. She's a strong willed,savvy business woman,who will need no guidance from BB,and more importantly will not be easily manipulated by BB!?!
BB will get 6 months out of Gina,maybe a year out of Dexter,and then they will be forgotten,bar the odd "guest" appearance on BBBOTS!!!

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Lex

I agree Lister...Dexter showed that he was the only contestant with any modicum of compassion last night!...And apart from the ugly pack mentality that was shown from the majority of the housemates,...what I found telling was Sam's total inactivity in the "loyalty-factor"!...In the last few days since creepy Callum was booted out, she and Sam have been 'supposedly' getting on like a house on fire...hence surely it only stands to reason that if the lad was genuinely there for the experience, and to be a positive role model for the hard of hearing...and wasn't just another game-player that has a plan to win the cash....he would have stuck up for,..and comforted his friend Charlie!

Mmmm!...Proud of Dexter,...disappointed with Sam! [again!]

You mean that same pack mentality that was directed at Callum when he was in there?


To be fair to Emma and the BOTS team, during discussions after the Daley incident, Emma consistently put forward the fact that Daley was the one cheating on his girlfriend, whilst Hazel was single. Most if not all the team seemed very uneasy with the idea of people blaming Hazel for his actions in the Safe House too. They didn;t want to crucify him for it,true, and some disagreed with his being booted out, but they all said he overstepped the line and that Hazel cannot be held responsible for that.

[Spoon]

BOTS is always biased.

[Tozzie]

Of course she has a right to be angry but there is a right and wrong way to go about things. She went head on at Charlie, she was awful with her and did it in front of the whole house. Thats out of order. I do not 'hate' Hazel Livia, I don't like her though, in my mind she has a horrible personality, you like her, I don't.

[SurfersCreed]

It was 100% GINA who stirred things up against Charlie.
She was also the only HM to show a vicious GLEE at Charlie's distress.
Gina is a NASTY peice of work.

[Videostar]

I do agree that Gina got an easy ride on BOTS tonight, she was heavily involved in the attacks on Charlie, and she was loving every minute of it.

But TBF, Hazel did steal the show with her very spiteful remarks and insults at Charlie's friend.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by SurfersCreed

It was 100% GINA who stirred things up against Charlie.
She was also the only HM to show a vicious GLEE at Charlie's distress.
Gina is a NASTY peice of work.

I like Gina but she was the one in the main loading the guns against Charlie after what her boyfriend said.

Hazel had a lot to say and did so, Hazel got a bolt from the blue as to Charlies awful friend nominating her and why she did so was right to get at Charlie in my view.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by DanaC

To be fair to Emma and the BOTS team, during discussions after the Daley incident, Emma consistently put forward the fact that Daley was the one cheating on his girlfriend, whilst Hazel was single. Most if not all the team seemed very uneasy with the idea of people blaming Hazel for his actions in the Safe House too. They didn;t want to crucify him for it,true, and some disagreed with his being booted out, but they all said he overstepped the line and that Hazel cannot be held responsible for that.

Yes they blamed Daley too.
But I don't agree with your analysis tbh.
Rightly or wrongly and whether you agree, from what I saw it was a moral crusade against the "behaviour" from start to finish.

Since when did "flirting" become a crime ?
Show me any man or woman who can only find ONE person attractive.
It's ridiculous (especially from BB)

But hey, let's just forget we're all human beings and just point the finger instead...