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Old 15-08-2013, 02:20 PM #26
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If Sam was the one in dexter shoes, i would go off him with a blink of an eye.
Im not biased like most people on here. I say what I think. And if Sam done what dexter did he would be a greedy *****. but he didnt did he? If dexter done what Sam done i wouldnt say anything bad about dexter apart from that hes not a greedy *****.
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Sure he wanted to stay. (eventually)

Yet it took him an age to decide and pick the biggest number.

Should have been IN, OUT in 30 secs flat.

That's the point...

If you SAY you don't care about the money you don't ponder for ages with a strained look on your face like it's a tough decision.
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at the end of the day, they are all in there to get the money, good on him.
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Bb did tell them that whoever took the lowest amount would leave the house but they all acknowledged that there was a twist involved.I don't think he was greedy ...he took a chance on taking the £100,000 and it didn't work out.There is not one of them in there that is not in it for the money.
It wasn't clear at all whether they thought what BB said was 'the twist' itself or whether they thought there was a twist within the twist, if you know what I mean.
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at the end of the day, they are all in there to get the money, good on him.
He said he didn't though.

I can just about take the sympathy card (if used sparingly).
But I don't want the winner to play the game poorly
And especially not on an "oh so moral" platform.
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Do you believe though, thta any housemate thought they would seriously be given 88% of the prize fund? Leaving the winner with 12k?
No, I don't. But I don't understand why you then think (as you've said in some posts) that Sam thought he could walk off with 100k?
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Everyone knows that really. They have tied themselves in knots trying to find a way to make Sam look greedy, but they are only succeeding in making themselves look silly.
Sam took the 100k because he wanted to stay. If he thought there may be another twist he would have known that BB wasn't going to let anyone walk off with the whole of the prize money. Not a chance! Any of them would have figured that out, yet many here don't seem to grasp that.
Well they do, really. They just pretend they don't because it suits them. Par for the course!
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If Sam was the one in dexter shoes, i would go off him with a blink of an eye.
Im not biased like most people on here. I say what I think. And if Sam done what dexter did he would be a greedy *****. but he didnt did he? If dexter done what Sam done i wouldnt say anything bad about dexter apart from that hes not a greedy *****.
I actualy mean what I just said^
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I agree with you absolutely. I have no fav left in the final but the 2 I liked best that are left were Sam and Dexter with Dexter slightly ahead. I'd have been happy enough if either won. Not any more. All I have left is Sam now.
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No, I don't. But I don't understand why you then think (as you've said in some posts) that Sam thought he could walk off with 100k?
What I think..is that Sam thought there might be a twist (as they all thought) so went for 100k which would mean he was staying if it was actually the lowest amount being kicked out..BUT if there happened to be a twist (like they thought) and it was the highest going..he wouldnt lose anything and would get his 100k 6 days early

I dont think any of the are greedy, no matter why they chose what they did. I think most people in their shoes would take as much money as possible. Well, maybe it is greed..but its what the majority would do...get as much as possible. Even if it was 50k on offer, I would think most would take it, rather than gambling a 1/6 chance of getting 100k instead. I believe that they ALL go in there for the prize. Winning is a massive bonus obviously, but outright offer any of them (especially the week before the final) the 100k and they would walk.

I think Dexter chose 88k as he thought it was a decent amount to leave with if they were telling the truth, and low enough to be in with a chance if they werent..so yes, tactical..as the tweet said when he made his choice. No idea about Charlie, nor do I care as she just flipflops about and I have given up trying to understand her. Twins were clearly after the money as they said as much. Just they werent clever enough to think about it properly.

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What I think..is that Sam thought there might be a twist (as they all thought) so went for 100k which would mean he was staying if it was actually the lowest amount being kicked out..BUT if there happened to be a twist (like they thought) and it was the highest going..he wouldnt lose anything and would get his 100k 6 days early
I don't know why you think this huge thought process went through all their minds and I don't know why you're saying Sam is bad and Dexter is good when Dexter done the opposite.

By your logic, if they were unsure if there was or wasn't a twist you should hate Dexter and Sam equally.
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Twins were clearly after the money as they said as much. Just they werent clever enough to think about it properly.
You're clearly oblivious to what happened. The twins and Dexter had the same logic yet you only like one of the two for what they both did.
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I believe that they ALL go in there for the prize.
I agree.

The difference with Sam is, he's standing on a very moral self righteous platform and meant to be there (so he says) over a serious subject.

So he shouldn't be sly about things (see above), he should be straight as a dye.

If he's not really there to raise awareness about deafness and just in it for the money then I find that slightly repugnant.

I've learn absolutely nothing about deaf people since he's been in there.
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I don't know why you think this huge thought process went through all their minds and I don't know why you're saying Sam is bad and Dexter is good when Dexter done the opposite.

By your logic, if they were unsure if there was or wasn't a twist you should hate Dexter and Sam equally.
I'm not saying Sam is bad though
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You're clearly oblivious to what happened. The twins and Dexter had the same logic yet you only like one of the two for what they both did.
The reason I think its obvious about the twins is because they specifically asked twice if they would actually get the money if they picked it?

I havent seen Dexter say this (he might have, if its shown tonight obviously I will think the exact same about him as the twins)
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Do you believe though, thta any housemate thought they would seriously be given 88% of the prize fund? Leaving the winner with 12k?
No I don't, however that wasn't the issue on this thread, this thread is on about Sam's greed at choosing the 100k.

You said though those defending Sam would get at Dexter had he done it, I am one of those defending Sam and I certainly would not have condemned Dexter for choosing the 100k either had he done so.
For me, that would have proved he, just like Sam, didn't want to go either.
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The reason I think its obvious about the twins is because they specifically asked twice if they would actually get the money if they picked it?

I havent seen Dexter say this (he might have, if its shown tonight obviously I will think the exact same about him as the twins)
Obviously Dexter wasn't thinking out loud, the twins had to converse. Dexter and the twins had the exact same logic hence they didn't pick the highest prize on the board. Either support both their actions or none or be hypocritical.
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Obviously Dexter wasn't thinking out loud, the twins had to converse. Dexter and the twins had the exact same logic hence they didn't pick the highest prize on the board. Either support both their actions or none or be hypocritical.
I am not being hypocritical. The twins clearly wanted the money as they said as much, the jury is out for me at the moment about if Dex truly wanted to go or not..or if it was 'twist' tactical thinking. I am leaning more towards the second tbh..so he had a decent amount if they were telling the truth, but had a chance if they werent. I dont see why this is difficult for some to understand, nor how it is hypocritical?

I will repeat again, I do not think any of them are bad for chosing what they chose, regardless of the reasons. I support the actions of EVERY one of them/ I am very surprised though that someone didnt go lower. Extremely surprised. Would have thought at least one would go around 50k.

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What I think..is that Sam thought there might be a twist (as they all thought) so went for 100k which would mean he was staying if it was actually the lowest amount being kicked out..BUT if there happened to be a twist (like they thought) and it was the highest going..he wouldnt lose anything and would get his 100k 6 days early

I dont think any of the are greedy, no matter why they chose what they did. I think most people in their shoes would take as much money as possible. Well, maybe it is greed..but its what the majority would do...get as much as possible. Even if it was 50k on offer, I would think most would take it, rather than gambling a 1/6 chance of getting 100k instead. I believe that they ALL go in there for the prize. Winning is a massive bonus obviously, but outright offer any of them (especially the week before the final) the 100k and they would walk.

I think Dexter chose 88k as he thought it was a decent amount to leave with if they were telling the truth, and low enough to be in with a chance if they werent..so yes, tactical..as the tweet said when he made his choice. No idea about Charlie, nor do I care as she just flipflops about and I have given up trying to understand her. Twins were clearly after the money as they said as much. Just they werent clever enough to think about it properly.
I think you misunderstand.

In a post about Sam you said:

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Take the 100k and if they are telling the truth, you are in the final. If they are lying, you walk with the whole prize fund.
In a post about Dexter you said:

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Do you believe though, thta any housemate thought they would seriously be given 88% of the prize fund? Leaving the winner with 12k?
In Dexters case, you say no HM would seriously think they would be given 88k yet in Sam's case you contradict that and say he is clever and thought he could walk with 100k.


See what I mean?
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I think you misunderstand.

In a post about Sam you said:



In a post about Dexter you said:



In Dexters case, you say no HM would seriously think they would be given 88k yet in Sam's case you contradict that and say he is clever and thought he could walk with 100k.


See what I mean?
I have said the reason I think Dexter chose the 88k..was so that if they were telling the truth, he got a large sum of money, and if not he had a chance still?

So he had hedged his bets both ways? Incase they WERE going to give away the cash.

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In retaliation to someone saying that BB wouldnt give away 100k..I dont really see much difference between 100k and 88k?
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It is hilarious watching people try to twist what Sam did last night into greed.

He was told the person with the lowest amount of money would leave and took the highest possible amount so he would stay in the house knowing full well that a majority of the money could have gone with whoever chose the lowest. That isn't greed.

A reminder: Trying to twist Sam's motives here due to favouring a different, crooked horse in this race matters not. This forum represents just a tiny group of Big Brother fans and the public at large saw the same footage we all did... including the emphasis on Sam's not wanting to leave.
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Oh, and of course producers managed a way to keep their fakes/actors, Gina and Dexter both cleared to the final.
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IF the task was fair and not set up to keep Dex in the game, each person should have had a full wall of values to choose from.
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I have said the reason I think Dexter chose the 88k..was so that if they were telling the truth, he got a large sum of money, and if not he had a chance still?

So he had hedged his bets both ways? Incase they WERE going to give away the cash.

I asked

In retaliation to someone saying that BB wouldnt give away 100k..I dont really see much difference between 100k and 88k?
Okay, lets put it this way:

Which is if no HM would seriously think they were going to walk off with 88% of the prize money (when you are talking about Dexter), why would they think they would walk off with 100% of the prize money (when you are talking about Sam?)
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Okay, lets put it this way:

Which is if no HM would seriously think they were going to walk off with 88% of the prize money (when you are talking about Dexter), why would they think they would walk off with 100% of the prize money (when you are talking about Sam?)
I dont know what you are trying to do here tbh.

I said about the 88% of the prize fund as the member was saying the housemates wouldnt believe they would be able to take the 100k? So I was asking why they thought that they would be able to take just 12k less?

There was a chance (albeit a slim one) that they would be walking off with a lot of money.

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If Sam was speaking the truth about not being on the show for the money it would have taken just a few seconds to pick the £100,000 card up and place it in the case, but HE didn't. This is why people now questions his morals that he keeps harping on about to anyone who will listen.
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