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Old 16-08-2013, 07:39 AM #1
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Only one person could choose a a particular number, meaning that two hms couldn't have chosen the same amount, right?

Second, why is it bad to choose a high amount? I don't understand. What's wrong with wanting to stay?

I seriously don't get this twist.
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Only one person could choose a a particular number, meaning that two hms couldn't have chosen the same amount, right?

Second, why is it bad to choose a high amount? I don't understand. What's wrong with wanting to stay?

I seriously don't get this twist.
I haven't seen the highlights yet. But I think all the numbers were different.

And you're right. It isn't bad to choose the highest number, being £100,000, because that would guarantee Sam not leaving with the money.

But for some odd reason, people aren't seeing it like that. They think Sam's willingness to stay is greed, but it's not.
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I haven't seen the highlights yet. But I think all the numbers were different.

And you're right. It isn't bad to choose the highest number, being £100,000, because that would guarantee Sam not leaving with the money.

But for some odd reason, people aren't seeing it like that. They think Sam's willingness to stay is greed, but it's not.
According to BB that wasn't the end of the twist (they are taking their sweet time to let us know what the end is!)

The disgust is not with Sam's greed it is with his obvious jealousy at having Dexter being immune and thus in the final. That was made clear by Sam's own words.
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The disgust is not with Sam's greed it is with his obvious jealousy at having Dexter being immune and thus in the final. That was made clear by Sam's own words.
Having not yet seen yesterday's HLs, I cannot fully comment on all of Sam's comments or behaviour.

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Having not yet seen yesterday's HLs, I cannot fully comment on all of Sam's comments or behaviour.
It may well surprise you!
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According to BB that wasn't the end of the twist (they are taking their sweet time to let us know what the end is!)

The disgust is not with Sam's greed it is with his obvious jealousy at having Dexter being immune and thus in the final. That was made clear by Sam's own words.

There's no further twist.

There would only be a further twist if Dexter had not taken the lowest or highest amount (like they assumed) and Sam had not taken the highest or lowest amount (like they assumed).

The whole "twist" was engineered to get Dexter or Sam into the final and voters going crazy to evict/save Sam or Dexter at this weeks eviction.

£££££ Kerching ££££££
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There's no further twist.

There would only be a further twist if Dexter had not taken the lowest or highest amount (like they assumed) and Sam had not taken the highest or lowest amount (like they assumed).

The whole "twist" was engineered to get Dexter or Sam into the final and voters going crazy to evict/save Sam or Dexter at this weeks eviction.

£££££ Kerching ££££££
They assumed, wrongly, that the Twins would take about £20K and bugger off, since that didn't happen they come up with the lame "immunity" crap again.
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I don't understand why Charlie was annoyed with Dexter for not picking the £99,000 as he had the choice before her. The twins also the choice before her and picked £96,000 whilst the £99,000 was still on the board but Charlie didn't say anything to them. What a daft tiwst anyway.
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I don't understand why Charlie was annoyed with Dexter for not picking the £99,000 as he had the choice before her. The twins also the choice before her and picked £96,000 whilst the £99,000 was still on the board but Charlie didn't say anything to them. What a daft tiwst anyway.
If I'm right, the three highest amounts would have been gone if dexter had taken 99k. Meaning that charlie - going last - would automatically have had the lowest amount and therefore she would have been immune. She's annoyed because she didnt get immunity.
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The original twist was for the twins to get some money and leave, but before leaving they had to select either Sophie or Gina to replace them. They,the twins, screwed up BB's well thought out twist!
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I can't help but get the feeling these so called "Secrets & Lies" twists are used as an excuse to manipulate HM's into safe or vulnerable positions depending on how BB see their popularity and hence their abilty to generate votes.

More than a few times now we have had twists where the outcomes are not clear and after the twist there seems to be another further twist which changes the HM at the receiving end. Take the latest twist with the money, that looked a bit bogus as it was expected a HM would leave than night, but in the event the whole task was not shown live and no one left the house. another twist I think was hastily invented to produce the outcome the producers maybe expected in the first place.

If true this is the final nail in the coffin, if proved to be true then clearly it is illegal and the BB production company will face massive fines for "stealing" money from viewers for holding votes which are engineered to produce the desired result.

All in all this whole rotten corrupt pathetic excuse for a once great programme needs to be flushed away and a new production team brought back with a much clearer agenda and fixed rules for certain elements of the show. Twists must be approved and defined well in advance and not just made up on an Ad-hoc basis.

This current programme has the whiff of Corruption about it.......!!!!!
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The twist never made literal sense in Dexter being so nice to take a low sum of money. How stupid would you have to be to believe that Dexter was being nice? The twist made no sense.
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Basically Dexter got in the final and they did not. That is why they are upset.
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I don't understand why Charlie was annoyed with Dexter for not picking the £99,000 as he had the choice before her. The twins also the choice before her and picked £96,000 whilst the £99,000 was still on the board but Charlie didn't say anything to them. What a daft tiwst anyway.
Charlie's thought patterns are not clear at the best of times. She's not the sharpest kinife in the drawer and has the emotional maturity level of a four year old.
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Basically Dexter got in the final and they did not. That is why they are upset.
For the one billionth time, NO.

They are upset because they were told the player who chose the lowest amount would leave the house with that money. Dexter was on his high horse saying he wanted to stay in the game so he took the highest number.

Only, he didn't.

He was second to last and took the second to highest price left on the board knowing Charlie (who went last) would take the highest remaining price. That would mean he had the lowest amount...still a very large portion of the prize fund... and would leave with it.
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The twist never made literal sense in Dexter being so nice to take a low sum of money. How stupid would you have to be to believe that Dexter was being nice? The twist made no sense.
It made perfect sense on paper as it was a race to the bottom to see who walked out with money last night. Just like last year's contest with who pushed the button first hence choosing the lowest amount to walk out of the house that night night. At least that's what they were told.

But it was completely unbelievable and I think Dexter has the good sense to suss that out, while hedging his bet. To believe someone had the ability to walk out of the house with nearly all of the prize fund was not credible unless the amount to choose from started at around 50,000 pounds and went down from there. And I think Dexter knew this so did not expect to get the money but gambled that coming in at the bottom was a good thing anyway.

Had he been 100 per cent sure of this, he absolutely would have taken the one pound to look like a selfless hero, but there was a seed of doubt as there would be for anyone. He didnt want to take the big gamble of looking like a mug and walking out with a pound so on the off chance that it was legit, he took a higher amount that would still guarantee he would be the lowest. He would have only lost this gamble had being the lowest meant something bad.
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It made perfect sense on paper as it was a race to the bottom to see who walked out with money last night. Just like last year's contest with who pushed the button first hence choosing the lowest amount to walk out of the house that night night. At least that's what they were told.

But it was completely unbelievable and I think Dexter has the good sense to suss that out...
So you are saying that he sussed it out. Don't you remember that he had his head on his box when he found out that he had the lowest sum? Having his head on his box meant that he was upset that he had the lowest sum. You are saying that he should be happy that he had the lowest sum, because he sussed it out.
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The original twist was for the twins to get some money and leave, but before leaving they had to select either Sophie or Gina to replace them. They,the twins, screwed up BB's well thought out twist!
Nah, they never was gonna be an eviction. There was no crowd outside and Emma wasn't there.
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they were told the player who chose the lowest amount would leave the house with that money. .[/B]
they weren't told that. it's what they assumed
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He was second to last and took the second to highest price left on the board knowing Charlie (who went last) would take the highest remaining price. That would mean he had the lowest amount...still a very large portion of the prize fund... and would leave with it.
But all said they didnt want the money. So why would it bother them if he did leave with it? Hmmm.
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So you are saying that he sussed it out. Don't you remember that he had his head on his box when he found out that he had the lowest sum? Having his head on his box meant that he was upset that he had the lowest sum. You are saying that he should be happy that he had the lowest sum, because he sussed it out.
At that point it hadn't yet been confirmed for him. Of course he was nervous. Being lowest might have been a bad thing at that point. That was his real gamble. I think he made many mental calcualtions when in that room and was very certain that the whole walk away with the money thing was nonsense given that the show would not let the series end with about 90 per cent of the pot going before the final. And, probably more practically, doing this in what was obviously not a live show. Has there ever been an eviction this close to the end without a live show? I bet he and others thought that was odd. However, just in case he chose a large amount.
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At that point it hadn't yet been confirmed for him. Of course he was nervous. Being lowest might have been a bad thing at that point. That was his real gamble. I think he made many mental calcualtions when in that room and was very certain that the whole walk away with the money thing was nonsense given that the show would not let the series end with about 90 per cent of the pot going before the final. And, probably more practically, doing this in what was obviously not a live show. Has there ever been an eviction this close to the end without a live show? I bet he and others thought that was odd. However, just in case he chose a large amount.
If you suss something out you don't need it confirming. That's what suss something out means. He'd stand up happy with a big grin on his face if he sussed it out, not put his head on his box.

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