[DanaC]

Dunno about that CaudleHalberd. I study and teach at a Russell Group university and the kids there are pushed hard. Nothing easy about it. And nothing whatsoever like an a-level. It;s an entirely different learning structure.




[eta] Also, since you were responding in relation to someone who's studied law at Cambridge, I;d say it's pretty irrelevant what 'some' unis are like. Oxbridge is tough. Very tough. A 2:1 from oxford or cambridge is considered the equivalent of a first from most other good universities.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by reece(:

No you WERE stating that people with a degree haven't a clue so shouldn't start acting like staples of knowledge. And calling me names on here says more about you than me

Please, show me where I said people with degrees haven't a clue? All I said was you are not a Lawyer because you have a Law Degree. Calling you names? Where?

You know NOTHING about me, yet you felt the need to write, in capitals no less, that they KNOW MORE THAN YOU

I could be Rumpole of the Bailey for all you know

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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Probably trying to whip up some anti Hazel feeling. She would have to press charges, can't really see her bothering with all that.

No she doesn't! If there are witnesses,or TV evidence,the cops can charge him,with or without her making a complaint!!

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Dunno about that CaudleHalberd. I study and teach at a Russell Group university and the kids there are pushed hard. Nothing easy about it. And nothing whatsoever like an a-level. It;s an entirely different learning structure.




[eta] Also, since you were responding in relation to someone who's studied law at Cambridge, I;d say it's pretty irrelevant what 'some' unis are like. Oxbridge is tough. Very tough. A 2:1 from oxbridge is considered the equivalent of a first from most other good universities.

I think it's insulting to say that we have it easy nowadays, even at A level the standard is really high and boundaries are raising year after year.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Please, show me where I said people with degrees haven't a clue? All I said was you are not a Lawyer because you have a Law Degree. Calling you names? Where?

You know NOTHING about me, yet you felt the need to write, in capitals no less, that they KNOW MORE THAN YOU

I could be Rumpole of the Bailey for all you know

To be an 'expert' in anything requires training/education/knowledge and experience. Newly qualified's in anything need experience to practice effectively.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Wait until CBB starts!

Yeah,I bet it's gonna be heated in here!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Yeah,I bet it's gonna be heated in here!

Especially if Chris goes in!

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

To be an 'expert' in anything requires training/education/knowledge and experience. Newly qualified's in anything need experience to practice effectively.

I agree

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

If in the unlikely event he is charged, his lawyers may advise him to do just that.

"Attack is the best form of defence" etc.

That would be considered reactionary,a vexatious complaint,and wouldn't be taken seriously,by the cops or the courts. Doubt either will be charged anyway!!

[sassysocks]

And how many of the 'celebs' will be real celebs? A real 'celeb' wouldn't be seen dead doing BB. It will be a selection of failed soap actors, aspring glamour models (always the cheap versions, not the real deal) and maybe the odd x-factor reject.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I think it's insulting to say that we have it easy nowadays, even at A level the standard is really high and boundaries are raising year after year.

I agree.

To be fair to CaudleHalberd, there are some courses and some institutions that muddy the water. But they aren't representative of the entire university sector.

A-levels have changed in many ways, and you'll often find academics in higher education bemoaning the fact that they don't prepare students for degree level study. But that's not because the a-levels have become easier. It's just because the structure of them has altered to mean that the jump from gcse (o level as was) to a-level is less than it once was in terms of learning style.

The difference between o-level and a-level used to be the big leap. Then the a-levels prepared for degree level study. Now the gcse works as preparation for a-level, and the big leap is in the move to degree. None of that means that A-levels have got easier.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I think it's insulting to say that we have it easy nowadays, even at A level the standard is really high and boundaries are raising year after year.

It's so frustrating

I get my GCSE results tomorrow and I worked so hard for months in advance of taking the exams, yet the reports keep flying in that everything is far too easy and the grades people achieve mean nothing. If they keep putting us down then no one will put any effort in at all.

[DanaC]

Well said Richard.

But ya know, they've been saying this stuff for years m'dear. They used to come out with these reports when i was doing my olevels/gcses waaaay back in the Jurassic period


Don't listen to it. Ignore it. It's just a news story and an excuse for us oldies to get on our collective high horse about how much better our generation was. All bollocks.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Well said Richard.

But ya know, they've been saying this stuff for years m'dear. They used to come out with these reports when i was doing my olevels/gcses waaaay back in the Jurassic period

Beat me to it lol they used to say the same when I was in school going on for 20 years ago.

[Verbal]

Best of luck Richard. Hope you do well, mate.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by RichardG

It's so frustrating

I get my GCSE results tomorrow and I worked so hard for months in advance of taking the exams, yet the reports keep flying in that everything is far too easy and the grades people achieve mean nothing. If they keep putting us down then no one will put any effort in at all.

I'm only 31,But i've been hearing that for years since i left school.I would'nt worry about it.You know you worked hard for them.

[Josy]

Back on topic please....


Hazel doesn't need to press charges btw, well that's it how works here I don't know about anywhere else.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Livia

LOL... oh dear, where to start. You keep using the word "technically" when you're referring to what you perceive to be a legal matter, and then go on to say something you've just made up.

If there was any mileage (or money) in pressing charges on Hazel, Daley's lawyers would have done it already. But there isn't.

The police don't have to try to convince the CPS to prosecute. The CPS will prosecute if there is enough evidence to bring the case to court.

I hope that helps.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Josy

Back on topic please....


Hazel doesn't need to press charges btw, well that's it how works here I don't know about anywhere else.

Yes, i agree.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Well said Richard.

But ya know, they've been saying this stuff for years m'dear. They used to come out with these reports when i was doing my olevels/gcses waaaay back in the Jurassic period


Don't listen to it. Ignore it. It's just a news story and an excuse for us oldies to get on our collective high horse about how much better our generation was. All bollocks.

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Best of luck Richard. Hope you do well, mate.

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I'm only 31,But i've been hearing that for years since i left school.I would'nt worry about it.You know you worked hard for them.

thank you

[Josy]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

what harm is this genuinely interesting conversation doing that required a mod to referee it? The thread was started about Law, we are still talking about Law.

The thread is in the BB section and is about Daley and Hazel and what happened in BB, feel free to make a thread in another section to discuss other things and keep questions like this to pm in future so you aren't taking the thread off topic any further.

Thanks.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

To get to "uni" these days means very little. Some degrees are about the equivalent of a low grade A-level from a couple of decades, or so, back.

Don't be so insulting, I worked darned hard to get my grades to get to Uni,and I also worked endlessly to win my degrees too.
You speak for yourself if you must with your nonsense but stop generalising about everyone else.

What an atrocious attitude and I think you should be made to withdraw this comment,possibly along with several others you have made as to law students particularly on here in this thread.
Ridiculous and totally uncalled for.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

From the CPS website:

On a charge of Common Assault, it is necessary for the prosecution to prove absence of consent: see R v Brown (A.) [1994] 1 A.C. 212, HL. It is possible for a lack of consent to be inferred from evidence other than direct evidence from the victim: see CPS v Shabbir [2009] EWHC 2754 (Admin). Where actual or grievous bodily harm or a wound is caused, however, consent will be no defence in the absence of good reason.

So to make a charge stick on Daley, the CPS would have to prove that Hazel had not consented.

Are you for real? Hazel,or the police,would have to prove that she didn't consent to being grabbed by the neck and threatened with a "nutting"?!? I don't think your parliamentary experience has taught you well!! Who consents to the above scenario???

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

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Are you for real? Hazel,or the police,would have to prove that she didn't consent to being grabbed by the neck and threatened with a "nutting"?!? I don't think your parliamentary experience has taught you well!! Who consents to the above scenario???

Someone who says "Go for it" after being told "You don't want to see me when I'm angry". How about that..... just for starters?

How about the fact that Hazel at no point shouted out despite the fact she knew half a dozen cameras were witnessing the scene and help was near to hand.

How about the fact that when BB called her in to the DR she merely said she was "A little bit scared"... and she had to think about that because BB were almost pressing her to say it.

I could go on!

The threat was all part of the playfight and Hazel knows that even if you don't.

Which is why charges are unlikely to be brought and unlikely to stick even if brought.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Best of luck Richard. Hope you do well, mate.

I'll second that!!