[cfromhx02]

She told us that "she just forgets" IE forgets what she is saying sometimes, in regards to Lauren telling her that she didn't really like being told she had a boyish figure.

No surprise there then, Carol behaving true to form and not happy at openly bitching, makes out she didn't know what she was doing. Rubbish. She seems like an intelligent person to me, apart from being nasty of course, so usually knows what is behind what she says

and she seemed totally in control of herself when she came out with that comment on the couch with Lauren & Courtney.

So in control of when she said it that she turned to Courtney and said yeah I remember seeing a picture of her when she was a boy.

At first of course the usual excuse is trotted out by anyone who thinks they have the right to say anything they like IE I was only telling the truth.

Now Carol makes out she didn't even know what she was saying.

[Kazanne]

Lauren DOES have a boyish figure,as do a lot of women.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Lauren DOES have a boyish figure,as do a lot of women.

Especially obvious when she is tottering about on High Heels!

[Benjamin]

I'm not even watching CBB but I swear the only threads I see form you in the side bar are OTT hate filled ones for carol.

[erinp5]

Carol did apologise to Lauren for being tactless ,I watched it and I can say Carol did not mean it in a malicious way.

[kistar]

At least she didn't tell Lauren she looks a bit weird because that's what we are all thinking.

[MatthewS]

Odd that she'd try and cover it up by conveniently forgetting it.

Kind of a rude comment in general given that Lauren obviously wants to be known as a woman and legally is one. A valid point nonetheless though, no matter what she's done cosmetically, her figure is what it is, a boys.

[Jennifereliza]

Carol always makes excuses for the things she says...after the event. She has no problem asking really straightforward sometimes rude questions, yet if anyone dare ask her a personal straightforward question she gets very defensive. She can't on next woth other people on a compassionate level....her connection is through put downs and judgement.

[fingers]

She apologised, I saw it, and Lauren accepted that it was not maliciously intended.

[Pincho Paxton]

Carol has to say the meanest thing she can think of to each housemate. Sometimes she has to back down to get away with it. In Lauren's case she depended on Lauren to not notice that she was backing down from an insult. Lauren did not take it to heart, Lauren did not notice that Carol backed down from her accusation with Sophie either. It is Lauren's good nature that lets Carol say what she wants.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Carol has to say the meanest thing she can think of to each housemate. Sometimes she has to back down to get away with it. In Lauren's case she depended on Lauren to not notice that she was backing down from an insult. Lauren did not take it to heart, Lauren did not notice that Carol backed down from her accusation with Sophie either. It is Lauren's good nature that lets Carol say what she wants.

Yes indeed, some of us forget that Lauren is so good natured and has such a warm and loveable personality and above all is SO ENTERTAINING that we tend to forget what a real bitch she can be when not trying to win CBB.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by fingers

Yes indeed, some of us forget that Lauren is so good natured and has such a warm and loveable personality and above all is SO ENTERTAINING that we tend to forget what a real bitch she can be when not trying to win CBB.

Exactly fingers,she hasn't always been nice to people.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by fingers

Yes indeed, some of us forget that Lauren is so good natured and has such a warm and loveable personality and above all is SO ENTERTAINING that we tend to forget what a real bitch she can be when not trying to win CBB.

Only CBB counts. If Carol goes on a new show, and says that she no longer wants to be a bitch, she can win the next show instead.

[AnnieK]

When carol apologised about saying it and said she forgets...I took it to mean she forgets that Lauren is transgendered and so could take offence at a comment like that. As Kaz said a lot of women, many models, have boyish figures and it's to seen as an insult. Lauren needed to tell carol she felt offended but I do believe carol didn't mean it maliciously at all...

[CaudleHalbard]

Lauren accepted the apology quite happily.

I suspect that Lauren is actually quite pleased people forget about the transgendering.......... and this would far outweigh any offence taken about the 'boyish figure'.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Lauren accepted the apology quite happily.

I suspect that Lauren is actually quite pleased people forget about the transgendering.......... and this would far outweigh any offence taken about the 'boyish figure'.

Exactement

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by erinp5

Carol did apologise to Lauren for being tactless ,I watched it and I can say Carol did not mean it in a malicious way.

I hate to say it, but I agree with you.

[Pincho Paxton]

I think Carol thought... "What's the worst thing that I could say to Lauren?" "That she looks like a boy." "But that will be seen on TV as very incorrect." "So I will say it, and then change it to boyish figure." "Then Lauren may blow up, and then she can't win."

That's how I read it.

[Nedusa]

I was quite shocked at Carols use of wording to Lauren that involved the words boy or boyish as this is clearly provocative bearing in mind Lauren's history and transgender background. I for one like carol very much but have to admit to being slightly shocked at her use of this type of language . I wonder if it was done for effect to upset and wind up Lauren perhaps to solicit a reaction.... Hmmmm

[Tozzie]

I'm not quite sure why she felt the need to make the comment at all, by all means think it but was it really necessary to say it out loud.

[Livia]

Lauren does have a boyish figure, as some people have already said. It wasn't mean as an insult, I'm sure. Surely people should be relaxed about Lauren and who she is, and not have to watch every single thing they say in case she's offended. Wouldn't that be far worse, if people were always on egg shells worrying about what they can and can't say? It's not like Carol made some kind of serious, thought-through phobic comment.

[CaudleHalbard]

Lauren can't help having a boyish figure. Even sticking on a pair of fake boobs will never change that.

[swanny123]

I,m sick & tired of people treading on egg shells all around lauren - she above anyone else knew EXACTLY what the show & contestants can be like & has spent years pleading to go in !she DOES have a boyish figure & also if anyone has seen her on cbbbots as a so called "fashion advisor" they would know she makes some awful remarks about the people & their clothes - I think she has a mental problem & shouldn,t have been allowed in in the first place - I doubt very much wether the house mates have any true feelings for her they just tolerate her in the nicest possible way

[swanny123]

Originally Posted by kistar

At least she didn't tell Lauren she looks a bit weird because that's what we are all thinking.

the womans a freak !!! & if anyone has seen the programme that was made of whole family which brought it out into the open what a load of con artists they ALL are you would have seen that lauren is anything but "sweet" & innocent

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I think Carol thought... "What's the worst thing that I could say to Lauren?" "That she looks like a boy." "But that will be seen on TV as very incorrect." "So I will say it, and then change it to boyish figure." "Then Lauren may blow up, and then she can't win."

That's how I read it.

Total speculation!