[lostalex]

so basically, from what i'm hearing from the women of TiBB, is that the makeup jobs we see in the media, that's just stars and celebrities. Most real women don't wear anywhere near that kind of makeup.

I really thought that women wore a lot more makeup than you guys say you do. you always hear straight guys talking about how different a girl looks in the morning, and i thought makeup had a lot to do with it.

Very interesting, I really wanted to know.

[Vicky.]

I cant be arsed with foundation and such, party because its such a faff on to put on and I dont really need it, and partly because if you get it even slightly wrong it looks absolutely awful.

I can chuck eyeliner on to make me look more alive and it only takes like a minute.

Apparently I dont look much different with no makeup on, but people are probably just saying that

[Vicky.]

Mind its not only celebs that trowel it on. My sister does..takes her about half an hour just to put makeup on on a morning.

[lostalex]

are you twins?

i can see your sister definitely darkens her eyebrows, other than that, i don't see much difference.