[jet]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

She was a bitch. "I'm not going to tell anyone." she said, trying to act all dramatic and like a saint. Then about an hour later. "I don't know what to do, DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO CHRIS." and then finally she just told Danielle and Ashleigh. If I was Chris I'd ask her what her ****ing problem is. I get that she's being blamed for being the power housemate and Chris is getting away scot free but why say she was going to keep it a secret in the first place?

It didn't come as a surprise to Chris that Jale told Daneille and Ashleigh. He said in the diary room that she was 'emotionally weak' and he was expecting her to tell someone. Chris is in there with her 24/7 and seems to be a good judge of character. That would explain also why she didn't stand up to being bullied.
It's not as if she told the whole house - she just told those who she was closest to. You'd think she had killed someone the way she is now being vilified. I'm not so fickle as to damn her for one bad judgement. I may yet go off her but it will take more than one mistake...

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by jet

It didn't come as a surprise to Chris that Jale told Daneille and Ashleigh. He said in the diary room that she was 'emotionally weak' and he was expecting her to tell someone. Chris is in there with her 24/7 and seems to be a good judge of character. That would explain also why she didn't stand up to being bullied.
It's not as if she told the whole house - she just told those who she was closest to. You'd think she had killed someone the way she is now being vilified. I'm not so fickle as to damn her for one bad judgement. I may yet go off her but it will take more than one mistake...

I will say that I was let down by Jale last night but I do agree it was just a silly thing she did, nothing major.
I think some people are using it to somehow justify her being bullied in the past week.
Nothing can make what Pauline & her gang did look anything but nasty & unacceptable.
I do feel that maybe now Jale should start to stand up for herself a bit more.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

I will say that I was let down by Jale last night but I do agree it was just a silly thing she did, nothing major.
I think some people are using it to somehow justify her being bullied in the past week.
Nothing can make what Pauline & her gang did look anything but nasty & unacceptable.
I do feel that maybe now Jale should start to stand up for herself a bit more.

I've got to agree, Tarryn. I voted yes, I had gone off her. But not completely. I feel the same as you. I was let down, but she's got a way to go to be as awful as a lot of them in there.

[Iggy]

yeah, I have to say it HAS made me go off her, I didnt like her when she went in, and then of course no one likes to see someone treated badly so I felt sorry for her and also thought she was handling the abuse well...

BUT...I really like Chris, and she did throw him to the lions there, as others have said, she knows what its like in there...and as Chris himself said, she had something she could use to ingratiate herself more into the house and she didnt hesitate...

I love Chris and for that reason alone, I now want Jale out on Friday

[jet]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

I will say that I was let down by Jale last night but I do agree it was just a silly thing she did, nothing major.
I think some people are using it to somehow justify her being bullied in the past week.
Nothing can make what Pauline & her gang did look anything but nasty & unacceptable.
I do feel that maybe now Jale should start to stand up for herself a bit more.

You have hit the nail on the head.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Iggy

yeah, I have to say it HAS made me go off her, I didnt like her when she went in, and then of course no one likes to see someone treated badly so I felt sorry for her and also thought she was handling the abuse well...

BUT...I really like Chris, and she did throw him to the lions there, as others have said, she knows what its like in there...and as Chris himself said, she had something she could use to ingratiate herself more into the house and she didnt hesitate...

I love Chris and for that reason alone, I now want Jale out on Friday

Hello Iggy, welcome to the forum.

[Iggy]

Hey Livia, its nice to be here

I also wanted to add that when she was talling Ashleigh and Danielle, she totally LIED saying that when she told Chris she wouldnt say anything he responded with ''thanks I appriciate that''

why didnt she tell them that Chris had said ''thats not true''

[jet]

Originally Posted by Iggy

yeah, I have to say it HAS made me go off her, I didnt like her when she went in, and then of course no one likes to see someone treated badly so I felt sorry for her and also thought she was handling the abuse well...

BUT...I really like Chris, and she did throw him to the lions there, as others have said, she knows what its like in there...and as Chris himself said, she had something she could use to ingratiate herself more into the house and she didnt hesitate...

I love Chris and for that reason alone, I now want Jale out on Friday

Chris is my fave HM but that doesn't mean I automatically dislike someone if they make a bad judgement that involves him. I wouldn't call Danielle and Ashleigh 'lions' exactly...
Tell me, do you think Chris was right not to stand up for Jale when she was being bullied? He was the only male that she was friends with really. Maybe she feels she doesn't have to loyal to him for that reason.
I would have liked him to have tackled Helen and Pauline about it, but it didn't put me off him that he didn't. As I say...one bad judgement call....

Anyway, welcome to the fray Iggy!

[Iggy]

Point taken...when it comes to Chris not standing up to Helen etc, I guess I had never thought of that..perhaps he should but there is a difference between not getting involved and direct;ly causing an action...

and Danielle and Ashleigh are not the lions, but we all know even out here in the real world, you tell one person something many others will know in a matter of minutes, she knew when she told Ashl and Danni that it was going to go all over the house...

Yeah, a bad judgement call it was, but it was an action to make herself more popular..thats what I think anyway

[jet]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Point taken...when it comes to Chris not standing up to Helen etc, I guess I had never thought of that..perhaps he should but there is a difference between not getting involved and direct;ly causing an action...

and Danielle and Ashleigh are not the lions, but we all know even out here in the real world, you tell one person something many others will know in a matter of minutes, she knew when she told Ashl and Danni that it was going to go all over the house...

Yeah, a bad judgement call it was, but it was an action to make herself more popular..thats what I think anyway

You could well be right there - and that is understandable given the treatment she was getting. I still like her so far, but we'll see how she is in the next few days.

[Iggy]

yes it is understandable, and although Id like to think I wouldnt, I may have done the same myself, its a strong pull to be liked and accepted and a part fo the in crowd....very powerful...

agreed, lets she how she goes on for the next few days, but ive got my eye on her

[Ammi]

..we all have our eye on her now, Iggy.....



..and welcome to the forum btw, you've made some interesting points....

[jet]

Originally Posted by Iggy

yes it is understandable, and although Id like to think I wouldnt, I may have done the same myself, its a strong pull to be liked and accepted and a part fo the in crowd....very powerful...

agreed, lets she how she goes on for the next few days, but ive got my eye on her

Yeah, she better behave or else...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

It didn't come as a surprise to Chris that Jale told Daneille and Ashleigh. He said in the diary room that she was 'emotionally weak' and he was expecting her to tell someone. Chris is in there with her 24/7 and seems to be a good judge of character. That would explain also why she didn't stand up to being bullied.
It's not as if she told the whole house - she just told those who she was closest to. You'd think she had killed someone the way she is now being vilified. I'm not so fickle as to damn her for one bad judgement. I may yet go off her but it will take more than one mistake...

Great post jet.
I am more disappointed with her than seeing it as being nasty.
She has had a rough ride in there so far, I am prepared to wait and see a lot more before I would myself change my view of her, she is one of my top 2 female housemates and there she stays for now.

[Lex]

Definitely!!...Can't say that she was particularly 'likeable' before...but the way that she showed that she was willing to throw one of the very-few hm's that has treated her fairly "under the bus" in order to try and garner a few brownie-points from the mob, has made me put her a lot higher on my siht-list!!....Nasty and calculating!!

[Nedusa]

No.............I was never on her to start with.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Lex

Definitely!!...Can't say that she was particularly 'likeable' before...but the way that she showed that she was willing to throw one of the very-few hm's that has treated her fairly "under the bus" in order to try and garner a few brownie-points from the mob, has made me put her a lot higher on my siht-list!!....Nasty and calculating!!

Since when were Danielle and Ashleigh a 'mob'?

[Lex]

Originally Posted by jet

Since when were Danielle and Ashleigh a 'mob'?

They've both been up Paulines backside all the way through the series...so even if you consider their wall-flower act makes them different from the gobby ones...do you really think that Jale thought that it would go no further??? ...so yes!..."the mob" was right!

[Will.]

Why are people taken this so seriously, she hasn't been rude or nasty, she has just got something off her chest, which she found it hard not to keep a secret. Anyway she told 2 housemates that won't kick off or probably tell anyone. Jale ha been through a lot of bullying in that house and probably is a bit of an emotional wreck.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Lex

They've both been up Paulines backside all the way through the series...so even if you consider their wall-flower act makes them different from the gobby ones...do you really think that Jale thought that it would go no further??? ...so yes!..."the mob" was right!

I have no idea what she thought as I'm not living inside her head.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Willbrick1999

Why are people taken this so seriously, she hasn't been rude or nasty, she has just got something off her chest, which she found it hard not to keep a secret. Anyway she told 2 housemates that won't kick off or probably tell anyone. Jale ha been through a lot of bullying in that house and probably is a bit of an emotional wreck.

In many cases it's a way to justify the bullying behaviour of Helen and Pauline towards her.

[fitz2k2]

bullying wahhhh wahhh

[smeagol]

jale is bullying chris

[jet]

Originally Posted by smeagol

jale is bullying chris

Feeling argumentative today smeagol?

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by jet

Feeling argumentative today smeagol?

lol just joking about